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Fuck KeSPA (why exhibition matches werent BCed)

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Error Ash
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany177 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 00:41:31
July 27 2009 00:40 GMT
#1
According to a Forum post on that other site ( http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/423824-why-the-sc2-matches-weren-t-broadcasted ) the SC2 exhibition games between Nada and Moon and other pro gamers weren't broadcasted thanks to KeSPA. According to that post, Tasteless and Artosis mentioned that KeSPA did not want those progamers to even participate in the exhibition matches.

Somehow i can't believe this. I never thought KeSPA was so powerful, but after owning several pros in the past ( http://www.teamliquid.net/powerrank/index.php?prid=28 see rank 9 ), now they seem to want to piss everyone else off too.

Good job KeSPA, f you.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
July 27 2009 00:42 GMT
#2
Wow if this is true i don't know what to say. But there will be a leak probably some day.
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BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 27 2009 00:42 GMT
#3
Yes, god forbid gamers play games. This is an atrocity that only KeSPA can protect us from.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 27 2009 00:44 GMT
#4
Yes this is true. Has to do with blizzard/kespa politics and ESPORTS drama. I was hoping Paul Sams would jump on stage and slice the KESPA president's chest open with Frostmourne.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 27 2009 00:45 GMT
#5
This doesn't make any sense. Some of the games were between WC3 Pro's and not SC pros. KeSPA has no authority over WC3 pro's (To the best of my understanding, correct?), so why weren't the Shy v Who and other matches broadcast?

Secondly, GARIMTO isn't even a Pro-gamer anymore so how can they have authority over him?

This smells fishy, damn fishy.

Obligatory fuck KeSPA.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 00:47:26
July 27 2009 00:46 GMT
#6
KESPA still had governance over estars or at least heavy heavy sway with it's organizers...it makes perfect sense. It has nothing to do with the progamers. It's Kespa vs Blizzard. That is all this is about.
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
July 27 2009 00:47 GMT
#7
Kespa probably doesnt like how Blizzard wants to run future tournaments and want to take over Kespa maybe thats why
pew pew
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 27 2009 00:48 GMT
#8
On July 27 2009 09:44 Kennigit wrote:
Yes this is true. Has to do with blizzard/kespa politics and ESPORTS drama. I was hoping Paul Sams would jump on stage and slice the KESPA president's chest open with Frostmourne.


Don't these guys understand if they keep up their antics they're going to be ruining E-Sports and its a lose/lose situation for both? Fucking power corrupts all.

It's akin to the NFL not broadcasting Pre-Season games, or the All-Star game. Makes no sense. >.<
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
July 27 2009 00:48 GMT
#9
maybe its a good thing blizzard looking to throw the cock block on KESPA and the korean Esports powers in SC2.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 27 2009 00:49 GMT
#10
Sometimes I wonder if KESPA is just trying to see how many people they can upset before they inevitably become obsolete when SC2 is governed by Blizzard.
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 27 2009 00:53 GMT
#11
Exactly. They're not going to have much going for them soon enough.

It's petty.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 27 2009 00:53 GMT
#12
Im happy kespa is going to die/get whipped into obedience by blizzard. No lan means blizzard controls what organizations do what with battle.net tournys. I always thought it was inappropriate that blizzard wasn't making a pretty penny off a giant competitive organization centered around one of their games. Hopefully Blizzard doesn't abuse this potential, yet I do hope they abuse it enough to cripple KESPA and make them their bitch.

Fuck I hate kespa!
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
July 27 2009 00:59 GMT
#13
Kespa was a Korean organization suitable for a Korean eSports scene. When SC2 comes and eSports grows beyond their borders, they will find that they do not have the flexibility to adapt to the new environment.

That being said, they are going to hold onto their chips for as long as possible, and create some drama in the meantime.
ModeratorGodfather
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
July 27 2009 01:00 GMT
#14
On July 27 2009 09:49 Mikilatov wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if KESPA is just trying to see how many people they can upset before they inevitably become obsolete when SC2 is governed by Blizzard.


this
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2009 01:02 GMT
#15
I don't see why Kespa cannot govern wc3 players. Afterall it's Korean e-Sports Association, not Korean Starcraft Association.
:]
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 01:11:46
July 27 2009 01:10 GMT
#16
On July 27 2009 10:02 illu wrote:
I don't see why Kespa cannot govern wc3 players. Afterall it's Korean e-Sports Association, not Korean Starcraft Association.


Because WC3 pros aren't licensed by KeSPA. Therefore, KeSPA has no authority over them.

It's like if Grubby and Sky played SC2 KeSPA would have no say if they could play or not. Blizzard controls whether or not SC2 is actually broadcasted, since they payed for the spot in the building, no (And they own SC2)?

The original linked article specifically only mentioned Nal_Ra, Moon, and NaDa all 3 of which Korean and under contract with KeSPA (correct me if I'm mistaken).

Something is afoul here.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
July 27 2009 01:14 GMT
#17
On July 27 2009 10:10 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 10:02 illu wrote:
I don't see why Kespa cannot govern wc3 players. Afterall it's Korean e-Sports Association, not Korean Starcraft Association.


Because WC3 pros aren't licensed by KeSPA. Therefore, KeSPA has no authority over them.

It's like if Grubby and Sky played SC2 KeSPA would have no say if they could play or not. Blizzard controls whether or not SC2 is actually broadcasted, since they payed for the spot in the building, no (And they own SC2)?

The original linked article specifically only mentioned Nal_Ra, Moon, and NaDa all 3 of which Korean and under contract with KeSPA (correct me if I'm mistaken).

Something is afoul here.


There are wc3 pros who have prolicense. Moon, ReiGn etc. You were talking about Grubby or Sky who aren't even koreans.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
July 27 2009 01:48 GMT
#18
Blaming KeSPA, sigh.
I may be a big opposer of KeSPA in the past, but KeSPA is not to blame today.

No one is to blame today.
Games were not intended to be broadcasted at all.
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ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 27 2009 02:07 GMT
#19
Flex your muscles while you still can, KeSPA.
You are now breathing manually.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
July 27 2009 02:09 GMT
#20
Blizzard should take over
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