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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 02:14:20
July 27 2009 02:14 GMT
#21
A big fuck you to KeSPA as usual. I wouldn't be suprised if KeSPA forces more teams to drop out of the next GOM classic. If that happens it's time for some netized MASS protesting.
Aznleeman
Profile Joined November 2007
United States208 Posts
July 27 2009 02:29 GMT
#22
Hmm...

That's odd. They must have had some adequate reason for urinating all over the potential games. Unless we're dealing with ridiculous levels of corruption, in which case we should all grab our panic blankies and stock up on food.
._.???
iMate
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada263 Posts
July 27 2009 02:48 GMT
#23
sc2 is like kespa's death aint it..
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
July 27 2009 02:50 GMT
#24
Blizzard should just go "Hey KeSPA, $1000 royalty on any broadcasted games, that'll teach you for being dicks"
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 27 2009 02:51 GMT
#25
That fucking sucks. I was really stoked to see those games. How fucking ridiculous.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 27 2009 02:52 GMT
#26
On July 27 2009 11:14 StarBrift wrote:
A big fuck you to KeSPA as usual. I wouldn't be suprised if KeSPA forces more teams to drop out of the next GOM classic. If that happens it's time for some netized MASS protesting.

That's not KeSPA's fault.
o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
July 27 2009 02:54 GMT
#27
Shit like this makes me glad that Blizzard is taking over Starcraft 2.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
July 27 2009 02:54 GMT
#28
On July 27 2009 11:52 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 11:14 StarBrift wrote:
A big fuck you to KeSPA as usual. I wouldn't be suprised if KeSPA forces more teams to drop out of the next GOM classic. If that happens it's time for some netized MASS protesting.

That's not KeSPA's fault.


It is in SK T1's case
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
July 27 2009 02:55 GMT
#29
On July 27 2009 11:50 ViruX wrote:
Blizzard should just go "Hey KeSPA, $1000 royalty on any broadcasted games, that'll teach you for being dicks"


You're right, lets just end Korean SC now because kespa didn't like a showmatch. Sheesh.
ModeratorGodfather
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
July 27 2009 02:56 GMT
#30
On July 27 2009 11:55 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 11:50 ViruX wrote:
Blizzard should just go "Hey KeSPA, $1000 royalty on any broadcasted games, that'll teach you for being dicks"


You're right, lets just end Korean SC now because kespa didn't like a showmatch. Sheesh.


I am sure they can afford it
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
July 27 2009 02:56 GMT
#31
On July 27 2009 11:52 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 11:14 StarBrift wrote:
A big fuck you to KeSPA as usual. I wouldn't be suprised if KeSPA forces more teams to drop out of the next GOM classic. If that happens it's time for some netized MASS protesting.

That's not KeSPA's fault.

It's Kevin Spacey's fault.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=98536
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 03:09:19
July 27 2009 03:00 GMT
#32
The games were not even best of 3, so Kespa did me a favor in this case, by keeping me from wasting my time watching them. I'm not a big fan of Kespa, but at least they have a track record of running something that approaches professional quality. Blizzard's events tend to look cheap and amateurish.
FBH is insurance.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 27 2009 03:03 GMT
#33
If they keep this shit up I hope the programmers leave and set up an independent league, especially for SC2.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
July 27 2009 03:10 GMT
#34
On July 27 2009 11:56 ViruX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 11:55 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 27 2009 11:50 ViruX wrote:
Blizzard should just go "Hey KeSPA, $1000 royalty on any broadcasted games, that'll teach you for being dicks"


You're right, lets just end Korean SC now because kespa didn't like a showmatch. Sheesh.


I am sure they can afford it


That's highly highly unlikely. SC may be a phenomenon in the esports world in korea, but that's only in the esports world. It's not worth nearly as much as most physical sports.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 03:17:56
July 27 2009 03:13 GMT
#35
On July 27 2009 12:00 moebius_string wrote:
The games were not even best of 3, so Kespa did me a favor in this case, by keeping me from wasting my time watching them. I'm not a big fan of Kespa, but at least they have a track record of running something that approaches professional quality. Blizzard's events tend to look cheap and amateurish.


The games were bo3... im stupid, was 1-1

Kespa is a fun bandwagon to jump up and down on, but they basically created the best version of esports on the planet. Blizzard is a software company, not a media production company, and every attempt they have made at it so far shows they have a ways to go.

Would kespa style management work in the states? Maybe not, but it is designed to serve the industry located in a single city. There are things they could do better, but there are already a lot of things they do right.
ModeratorGodfather
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 27 2009 03:13 GMT
#36
On July 27 2009 09:44 Kennigit wrote:
Yes this is true. Has to do with blizzard/kespa politics and ESPORTS drama. I was hoping Paul Sams would jump on stage and slice the KESPA president's chest open with Frostmourne.


damn that woulda been sick...
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 27 2009 03:15 GMT
#37
On July 27 2009 12:13 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 12:00 moebius_string wrote:
The games were not even best of 3, so Kespa did me a favor in this case, by keeping me from wasting my time watching them. I'm not a big fan of Kespa, but at least they have a track record of running something that approaches professional quality. Blizzard's events tend to look cheap and amateurish.


The games were bo3...

Kespa is a fun bandwagon to jump up and down on, but they basically created the best version of esports on the planet. Blizzard is a software company, not a media production company, and every attempt they have made at it so far shows they have a ways to go.

Would kespa style management work in the states? Maybe not, but it is designed to serve the industry located in a single city. There are things they could do better, but there are already a lot of things they do right.


Din't kespa just jump in on the scene? i don't think they created esports the way it is today
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
sudo.era
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States300 Posts
July 27 2009 03:16 GMT
#38
On July 27 2009 12:03 Count9 wrote:
If they keep this shit up I hope the programmers leave and set up an independent league, especially for SC2.

Hardcore Javascript League.
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
July 27 2009 03:17 GMT
#39
On July 27 2009 12:13 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 12:00 moebius_string wrote:
The games were not even best of 3, so Kespa did me a favor in this case, by keeping me from wasting my time watching them. I'm not a big fan of Kespa, but at least they have a track record of running something that approaches professional quality. Blizzard's events tend to look cheap and amateurish.


The games were bo3...

Kespa is a fun bandwagon to jump up and down on, but they basically created the best version of esports on the planet. Blizzard is a software company, not a media production company, and every attempt they have made at it so far shows they have a ways to go.

Would kespa style management work in the states? Maybe not, but it is designed to serve the industry located in a single city. There are things they could do better, but there are already a lot of things they do right.


My bad. I heard they each won one a piece.
FBH is insurance.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 03:19:42
July 27 2009 03:17 GMT
#40
^^ you're right, I mixed it up with Heritage.

Kespa is run by the proteams, so they didn't just "jump in". They helped create an entity to manage pro teams, licenses, drafts, etc, and negotiate between the teams and broadcasters. Obviously it is very incestuous because OGN owns a team, SKT1 owners help run kespa (thus the GOM problem) etc etc.

It is all the same people wearing different hats.
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