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[WL] FINALS: CJ vs OZ

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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 00:19:02
March 26 2009 07:02 GMT
#1
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Lots of thanks to Fontong for the decked out banner


2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League: Grand Finals

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       CJ Entus                                                        Hwaseung OZ
PL: 3rd, 19-14, +17 (85-68)               VS               PL: 1st, 23-10, +27 (91-64)
WL: 1st, 9-2, +15 (39-24)                                     WL: 2nd, 8-3, +12 (38-26)
[image loading]: 31-20, [image loading]: 34-31, [image loading]: 20-17                          [image loading]: 44-33, [image loading]: 36-16, [image loading]: 11-15


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      (Z)EffOrt < Neo Harmony > (Z)Jaedong

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??? < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > ???

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???        < Andromeda >        ???

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???        < Rush Hour 3 >        ???

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???       < Colosseum II >       ???

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???            < Medusa >            ???

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???        < Destination >        ???


Rosters
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CJ Entus
Manager: Cho Gyu Nam
Coaches: Kim Dong Woo (KIMDONGWOO), Na Jae Woong

(T)Iris [image loading]
(T)Memory
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)sAviOr
(Z)EffOrt *
(Z)Hydra
(Z)Orion
(Z)Devil
(Z)Kwanro
(P)Much
(P)Nbs
(P)Movie



Hwaseung Oz
Manager: Cho Jeong Woong
Coach: Han Sang Young

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(T)HiyA
(T)Lomo
(Z)Jaedong *
(Z)ToSky
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)Killer
(Z)NeeL
(P)BackHo
(P)Young
(P)Spear
(P)PerfectMan

* = denotes the pick to start the first set

Preview/Predictions
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Go read these great articles on the Winners League Finals:
CJ vs Hwaseung WL Finals Pre-Match Interviews by Smix
[WL] Finals HYPE!! by Fzero



Set 1: (Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Jaedong on Neo Harmony

This isn't the first time these two have collided, and when they met for the first time it was about as highly anticipated as any ZvZ game can be. Nevertheless Jaedong went on to maul EffOrt on Medusa, reasserting his dominance of the matchup and silencing his doubters yet again. Don't expect for this encounter to be any different, but stay wary - EffOrt has the ability to do the unexpected. In the end this is a matchup that JD will have spent all week practicing for in the OSL anyways, so I have no reason to think he won't perform here.

Prediction: (Z)EffOrt < (Z)Jaedong

Set 2 on Sin Chupung-Ryeong

Here is where things get interesting. CJ has made Chupung-Ryeong their own personal playground in Proleague play, going an impeccable 12-3 on the map, thanks largely to Iris' dominant play (5-0) on the traditional Terran haven. Iris is definitely the safe bet on this map in my opinion, as he's shown the best play, and the next few maps are in his favor if he wins (Andromeda wouldn't be, but luckly OZ has no good Protoss or Zerg to take him out). Can Iris tackle Jaedong though? I have a feeling he's got what it takes, despite a loss last month to the Destroyer.

Prediction: (T)Iris > (Z)Jaedong

Set 3 on Andromeda

Andromeda is going to be a real crapshoot if you want to guess who you will see if A) Jaedong is coming off a 2-kill, or B) Iris beats Jaedong. The only player on CJ that has had real success on the map has been EffOrt, and he won't be an option if JD is still around. Basically, if Jaedong wins the first two games, I'd bet the house that he at least gets a 3-Kill as well, as I can't see a viable option for CJ on this map. But lets turn the tables here, seeing as I've already got Iris usurping Mr. All-Kill. OZ will try a Protoss, be it BackHo or Young. I'm hoping it's BackHo, partly because I like him more, and partly because Young got demolished by Iris last time they met. Anyways, whoever they send, Iris has this.

Prediction: (T)Iris > (P)BackHo

Set 4 on Rush Hour 3

Rush Hour is a no-brainer map for whichever team will have to pick a player - just make it a Terran. For CJ, if they need a stopper here, it will likely be sKyHigh. If OZ finds themselves down 1-2, I'd look for Dongrae. Hey, he's not much, but him and Lomo are all they got if it comes to this point. (pick your poison)

Prediction: (T)Iris > (T)Dongrae

Set 5 on Colosseum II

So, Iris has his traditional CJ 3-Kill, and we all know what is coming next from Hwaseung - HiyA. I'm not going to offer any logic or reason behind this prediction other than the superstition I have that CJ players don't all-kill. It just doesn't happen. Oh, here's some logic: HiyA is damn good.

Prediction: (T)Iris < (T)HiyA

Set 6 on Medusa

Welcome to Medusa, the map where Protoss have mutilated Terrans for ages. But wait, HiyA mutilates 'toss players regardless of the map, as evidenced by his win against Stork here earlier in the month. So instead of Movie, look for sAviOr to take the stage on Medusa, and hell, if Shine[kaL] can beat HiyA on Medusa, so can the Maestro.

Prediction: (Z)sAviOr > (T)HiyA
CJ Wins 4-2, again!

Recommended Games
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Set 2: (T)Iris vs. (Z)Jaedong on Sin Chupung-Ryeong


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Set 4: (T)sKyHigh vs. (Z)Jaedong on Rush Hour 3


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Set 5: (T)sKyHigh vs. (P)Young on Colosseum II


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Set 6: (T)sKyHigh vs. (P)Spear on Medusa


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Set 7: (T)sKyHigh vs. (T)HiyA on Destination


Results
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Set 1: (Z)EffOrt < (Z)Jaedong
Set 2: (T)Iris < (Z)Jaedong
Set 3: (Z)sAviOr < (Z)Jaedong
Set 4: (T)sKyHigh > (Z)Jaedong
Set 5: (T)sKyHigh > (P)Young
Set 6: (T)sKyHigh > (P)Spear
Set 7: (T)sKyHigh > (T)HiyA

Skyhigh reverse all-kills and leads CJ to victory!

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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 26 2009 07:03 GMT
#2
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Poll: Who are you cheering for?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): Hwaseung OZ
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Poll: Who do you think will win?
(Vote): CJ Entus
(Vote): Hwaseung OZ

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Poll: Will Jaedong all-kill?
(Vote): Without a shadow of a doubt
(Vote): No, EffOrt will out-ZvZ him
(Vote): No, Iris will steamroll him
(Vote): No, sKyHigh will snipe him
(Vote): No, sAviOr will make him wish he was never born
(Vote): No, Movie will snipe him

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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 26 2009 07:05 GMT
#3
If anyone with graphics skills made a sick banner, I'll gladly feature it at the top of the OP, as I have no graphics skills whatsoever and just had to stick to the standard one.
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
March 26 2009 07:06 GMT
#4
I like the effort you put into the predictions, but why would OZ play Dongrae instead of Lomo?
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
March 26 2009 07:06 GMT
#5
They're allowed to play Jaedong first again?
Graphics
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 17:43:54
March 26 2009 07:07 GMT
#6
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[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 07:17:55
March 26 2009 07:10 GMT
#7
On March 26 2009 16:07 Fontong wrote:
I'm actually really insulted by this, p4ndemik you should have known better. I did both of the playoffs threads complete with custom banners and I expected that people would allow me to do the finals thread too.

I'm ... sorry? I've made an OP for every CJ match that I know I'll be able to stay up and watch, and I've been planning on treating this one no differently for a while now.

Edit: And I'd like to think that what my OP's lack in custom graphics they make up for it with the stats and content.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 26 2009 07:11 GMT
#8
On March 26 2009 16:06 TarsTarkas wrote:
I like the effort you put into the predictions, but why would OZ play Dongrae instead of Lomo?

Because they're equally worthless and I think it would be funnier if Dongrae played.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 26 2009 07:11 GMT
#9
I want CJ to win and Jaedong to all-kill
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 07:14:05
March 26 2009 07:13 GMT
#10
(Z)Jaedong has the consistent vZ winrate ever by the way. (T)iloveoov accumulated less wins and more losses against Zerg when he had played as long as (Z)Jaedong
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 07:19:47
March 26 2009 07:19 GMT
#11
If JD wins first 1st set there gonna send out skyhigh no matter because they are saving up iris for HiyA.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
March 26 2009 07:22 GMT
#12
goooooooooo backhooooooooo
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 26 2009 07:27 GMT
#13
jaedong all kill.
Woo Jung Ho
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
March 26 2009 07:44 GMT
#14
I hope (Z)Jaedong All kills again. =D
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10848 Posts
March 26 2009 07:59 GMT
#15
Jaedong enters boot.

Jaedong has killed Effort
Doublekill
Triplekill
Monsterkill

"Humiliation"

End.
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
March 26 2009 08:05 GMT
#16
On March 26 2009 16:44 Exteray wrote:
I hope (Z)Jaedong All kills again. =D

If JD could all-kill while still allowing CJ to win, that would be ideal for me.
Hmmmm
Now I know why the Tooth Fairy never grants my wishes.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
March 26 2009 08:13 GMT
#17
JD will just all kill again.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 26 2009 08:20 GMT
#18
Looks like its gonna be a short finals.
LOL
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
March 26 2009 08:20 GMT
#19
jaedong allkill. who can beat jaedong on cj? w/o cheese, dont say savior.
zzz
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 26 2009 08:24 GMT
#20
On March 26 2009 17:20 boxxyownz wrote:
jaedong allkill. who can beat jaedong on cj? w/o cheese, dont say savior.


I think Skyhigh or Iris on any of the terranfavoured maps have the best shot at sniping jaedong.
Im always scared at watching jaedongs zvz, coz im routing for him and i dont understand that matchup sometimes.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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