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[WL] FINALS: CJ vs OZ - Page 2

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koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
March 26 2009 08:25 GMT
#21
On March 26 2009 17:20 boxxyownz wrote:
jaedong allkill. who can beat jaedong on cj? w/o cheese, dont say savior.


like almost everyone? it depends on his day
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
March 26 2009 08:29 GMT
#22
If Jaedong All - kills again it will be huge !!!! I'm rooting for CJ thought i would like both Jaedong and CJ to win , but if i have to take a side then .... CJ is made of WIN !!!!
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
March 26 2009 08:29 GMT
#23
My vote goes to Movie, just because nobody believes him and I want to be unique:-P
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
March 26 2009 08:38 GMT
#24
effort all-kill

you heard it here first
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 26 2009 08:44 GMT
#25
Effort vs Jaedong. Wow.

But yeah Jaedong will walk over him...it'll prolly go

(Z)EffOrt < (Z)Jaedong
(Z)sAviOr / (P)Much < (Z)Jaedong
(T)Iris < (Z)Jaedong
(T)sKyHigh < (Z)Jaedong
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
March 26 2009 08:47 GMT
#26
Somebody will snipe JD. Then CJ>OZ
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
March 26 2009 08:50 GMT
#27
it's pretty ballsy to have JD lead out again... i doubt this will be a repeat
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
March 26 2009 08:57 GMT
#28
If Effort snipes Jaedong.. lawl.

But given Jaedong's ZvZ 79.4%... probably won't happen.
POGGERS
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
March 26 2009 08:58 GMT
#29
Saviors gona win.
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
March 26 2009 09:03 GMT
#30
On March 26 2009 17:57 konadora wrote:
If Effort snipes Jaedong.. lawl.

But given Jaedong's ZvZ 79.4%... probably won't happen.


Just don't forget that ZvZ can be a tricky matchup... They're both very good in it and it might just boil down to pure luck/BO win.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
March 26 2009 09:03 GMT
#31
On March 26 2009 17:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:20 boxxyownz wrote:
jaedong allkill. who can beat jaedong on cj? w/o cheese, dont say savior.


I think Skyhigh or Iris on any of the terranfavoured maps have the best shot at sniping jaedong.
Im always scared at watching jaedongs zvz, coz im routing for him and i dont understand that matchup sometimes.

zvz is pretty simple: on one side of the map, you have one zerg who do either 12 hatch, 4 pool, 6 pool, 9 pool or overpool, and on the otherside of the map, there is Jaedong who wins.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
March 26 2009 09:05 GMT
#32
On March 26 2009 18:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:24 StylishVODs wrote:
On March 26 2009 17:20 boxxyownz wrote:
jaedong allkill. who can beat jaedong on cj? w/o cheese, dont say savior.


I think Skyhigh or Iris on any of the terranfavoured maps have the best shot at sniping jaedong.
Im always scared at watching jaedongs zvz, coz im routing for him and i dont understand that matchup sometimes.

zvz is pretty simple: on one side of the map, you have one zerg who do either 12 hatch, 4 pool, 6 pool, 9 pool or overpool, and on the otherside of the map, there is Jaedong who wins.

You forgot the 12-pool, that's what luxury did last game...
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
March 26 2009 09:08 GMT
#33
its basically jaedong vs CJ, if jaedong loses OZ loses. GO CJ!!!!
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
March 26 2009 09:09 GMT
#34
On March 26 2009 17:44 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
Effort vs Jaedong. Wow.

But yeah Jaedong will walk over him...it'll prolly go

(Z)EffOrt < (Z)Jaedong
(Z)sAviOr / (P)Much < (Z)Jaedong
(T)Iris < (Z)Jaedong
(T)sKyHigh < (Z)Jaedong

QFT
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 09:30:55
March 26 2009 09:29 GMT
#35
Scratch that...this will go....

(Z)EffOrt > (Z)Jaedong (omg sniped!)
(Z)EffOrt > (T)HiyA
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Lomo
(Z)EffOrt < (P)BackHo
(Z)sAviOr < (P)BackHo
(P)Much < (P)BackHo
(T)Iris < (P)BackHo

BackHo reverse all kill please. ^^

*waiting for the BackHo fan influx to quote this, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it....*
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
March 26 2009 09:45 GMT
#36
On March 26 2009 18:29 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
Scratch that...this will go....

(Z)EffOrt > (Z)Jaedong (omg sniped!)
(Z)EffOrt > (T)HiyA
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Lomo
(Z)EffOrt < (P)BackHo
(Z)sAviOr < (P)BackHo
(P)Much < (P)BackHo
(T)Iris < (P)BackHo

BackHo reverse all kill please. ^^

*waiting for the BackHo fan influx to quote this, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it....*

QFT
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
March 26 2009 09:48 GMT
#37
If jaedong manages to all-kill CJ. I will take the rest of the reason off of iccup and simply live extravenously threw his gosuness.

(That post was a lie)
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
March 26 2009 09:49 GMT
#38
Oz have Jaedong and Hiya and not much after that.

If Jaedong gets taken out in the first or second set, CJ will romp imo.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
March 26 2009 10:50 GMT
#39
Jesus Christ I'm so friggin psyched for this match! I'm almost jizzing in my pants beforehand in anticipation of yet another Jaedong all-kill And in fear of he just might get sniped/chessed

I can see the logic with Jaedong playing first. If they send out a zerg (which they did) it's generally an autowin, especially with his ZvZ series the day before (which he's most likely going to win - I predict 3-0 ). So after his series he'll "only" have to prepare some ZvT first and then some ZvP as I consider CJ's Terran roster to be better than their Protosses.

The downside is everyone on CJ is preparing for/aiming to snipe Jaedong. God what a burden he must bare! Glad it's not me - or Jangbi's nerves I generally agree with it being CJ vs. Jaedong and if JD looses then Oz might fail to deliver.

I'm also wondering what's the most important: Jaedong's individual league or the team performance? JD should take the OSL more serious but maybe the coach finds more prestige in the Winner's League? Or maybe not since it's not Proleague? Anyway with a ZvZ with JD it should be a walkover for him leaving less debate about which is more important I guess.

Did Jaedong rise to the challenge and said "hey, I'll do it!" or did the coach "force" him to it, claiming if we're going to win then you're going to win, even though everyone is now running and gunning at you?

If it was all just straightup standard games I'd give Jaedong a very good shot of an all-kill (and still do!) but at the same time I'm worried about Effort 5-pooling him or a lot of chesse and stuff. Not that it's not legal to do but I'm hoping skill will prevail and not luck.

Maybe I'm just getting a bit out of hand now?

Also just for kicks could anyone give a rough calculation of Jaedong's rating if he 3-0 by.hero and 4-0 CJ? It's a possibility and even if it doesn't turn out that way it could still be cool just to see if he would've in fact beaten Bisu's Elo peak

One last thing I'm pondering about if Jaedong all-kills CJ. How does the other team members feel about that? I know the coach and the players will be happy about their victory but still when it's "only" ONE persons achievement that should be credited? Yes the others have helped the team get them this far but now in the finals it's the best of the best. Just wondering if there'd be some mixed feelings.
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 11:03:01
March 26 2009 11:02 GMT
#40
On March 26 2009 19:50 3nickma wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Jesus Christ I'm so friggin psyched for this match! I'm almost jizzing in my pants beforehand in anticipation of yet another Jaedong all-kill And in fear of he just might get sniped/chessed

I can see the logic with Jaedong playing first. If they send out a zerg (which they did) it's generally an autowin, especially with his ZvZ series the day before (which he's most likely going to win - I predict 3-0 ). So after his series he'll "only" have to prepare some ZvT first and then some ZvP as I consider CJ's Terran roster to be better than their Protosses.

The downside is everyone on CJ is preparing for/aiming to snipe Jaedong. God what a burden he must bare! Glad it's not me - or Jangbi's nerves I generally agree with it being CJ vs. Jaedong and if JD looses then Oz might fail to deliver.

I'm also wondering what's the most important: Jaedong's individual league or the team performance? JD should take the OSL more serious but maybe the coach finds more prestige in the Winner's League? Or maybe not since it's not Proleague? Anyway with a ZvZ with JD it should be a walkover for him leaving less debate about which is more important I guess.

Did Jaedong rise to the challenge and said "hey, I'll do it!" or did the coach "force" him to it, claiming if we're going to win then you're going to win, even though everyone is now running and gunning at you?

If it was all just straightup standard games I'd give Jaedong a very good shot of an all-kill (and still do!) but at the same time I'm worried about Effort 5-pooling him or a lot of chesse and stuff. Not that it's not legal to do but I'm hoping skill will prevail and not luck.

Maybe I'm just getting a bit out of hand now?

Also just for kicks could anyone give a rough calculation of Jaedong's rating if he 3-0 by.hero and 4-0 CJ? It's a possibility and even if it doesn't turn out that way it could still be cool just to see if he would've in fact beaten Bisu's Elo peak

One last thing I'm pondering about if Jaedong all-kills CJ. How does the other team members feel about that? I know the coach and the players will be happy about their victory but still when it's "only" ONE persons achievement that should be credited? Yes the others have helped the team get them this far but now in the finals it's the best of the best. Just wondering if there'd be some mixed feelings.


Well, Haya did alot of hard work during the group stage, and good training partners are surely not to be underestimated.
So I think they will be happy as a team. But lets see what happens. Maybe Jaedong fails and BackHo takes the glory, or perhaps savior (LOL)
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
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