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[Spoilers] The Bonjwa Story

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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-25 19:13:34
October 27 2007 17:14 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: This thread is a little old now. The "pattern" is only something interesting/fun I noticed back then. This is *not* the official definition of a bonjwa in any way, and a player doesn't need to achieve that to be considered bonjwa. A bonjwa is someone who completely and utterly dominates the game for at least 8-9 months, winning several starleagues in the process. The pattern is only a path they somehow all seem(ed) to follow.

Every four MSL, a progamer wins three out of four MSL and the following OSL, and the bonjwa* story repeats itself... Every X MSLs, a progamer wins three MSL and the following OSL, and a new bonjwa is born.

2002-2003: (T)NaDa
2002 KPGA 2nd Tour*: NaDa wins his 1st MSL
2002 KPGA 3rd Tour: NaDa wins his 2nd MSL
2002 KPGA 4th Tour: NaDa wins his 3rd MSL
2002 Panasonic OSL: NaDa wins his 1st OSL
2003 Stout MSL: Nal_rA wins MSL
... Nada's level of play starts dropping a bit...

[Transition VODs coming soon...]

2003-2004: (T)iloveoov
2003 TriGem MSL: iloveoov beats (T)NaDa and wins his 1st MSL
2004 CEN Game MSL: iloveoov wins his 2nd MSL
2004 SPRIS MSL: iloveoov wins his 3rd MSL
2004 YATGK MSL: Gorush wins MSL
2004 EVER2004 OSL: iloveoov wins his 1st OSL
... iloveoov's level of play starts dropping a bit...

+ Show Spoiler [Transition VODs] +





2005-2006: (Z)sAviOr
2005 UZOO MSL: sAviOr wins his 1st MSL
2005 CYON MSL: ChoJJa wins MSL
2006 Pringles-1 MSL: sAviOr wins his 2nd MSL
2006 Pringles-2 MSL: sAviOr wins his 3rd MSL
2006 ShinHan2006-3 OSL: sAviOr wins his 1st OSL
... sAviOr's level of play starts dropping a bit...

+ Show Spoiler [Transition VODs] +





2006-2007: (P)Bisu
2006 GOMTV MSL S1: Bisu beats (Z)sAviOr and wins his 1st MSL
2007 GOMTV MSL S2: Bisu wins his 2nd MSL
2007 GOMTV MSL S3: Mind wins MSL
2007 GOMTV MSL S4: Jaedong wins MSL
2008 Arena MSL 2008: forGG wins MSL
2008 ClubDay 2008 MSL: Bisu wins his 3rd MSL
2009 Batoo OSL (in progress): Bisu 3-0'd his group and is into Ro8.

And meanwhile, a certain (T)Leta, born in November (ah ah) just took down Flash in the current MSL and is now one of the big favorites to win the whole thing and, maybe, take over the pattern.

Notes:
1. sAviOr couldn't take down Oov during UZOO MSL because they never faced each other. Crushed him twice in the following one, though.
2. It's also interesting to note that any bonjwa seems to be automatically jinxed vs the following one:
- NaDa is 5-16 against Oov in official games (also lost during some chinese event finals) ;
- Oov is 0-6 against Savior (also lost during a chinese event, but won in a SuperFight) ;
- Savior is 1-5 against Bisu (something like 2-10 including special events).
3. All bonjwas were born in November (1 chance out of 1728 to happen for any given month if I'm not mistaken). Coincidence?

*OLD* Predictions:
1. Bisu will win the current MSL.
2. Bisu will also win the OSL following the next MSL's finals.
3. In the next MSL, another new bonjwa will take over and win his first starleague ever.

*bonjwa (by rinizim) - This word really is an ugly Korean slang, neither structurely nor grammatically coherent (it just doesn't make sense), but nonetheless used widely to mean the 'best'.

*KPGA 1st/2nd/3rd/4th Tour - Ex MSL.
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Polar
Profile Joined September 2007
Swaziland274 Posts
October 27 2007 17:29 GMT
#2
Nice write-up. Thanks. =]
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 27 2007 17:31 GMT
#3
Nice write up
History repeats itself
Bisu WILL take this MSL
But I have doubts him winning this OSL, its a low chance
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
October 27 2007 17:44 GMT
#4
So if testie can get in the MSL at the correct time...
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 27 2007 17:44 GMT
#5
Wow, nice one. Hope it's true, Bisu deserves it.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
vhallee
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
899 Posts
October 27 2007 18:00 GMT
#6
On October 28 2007 02:44 niteReloaded wrote:
So if testie can get in the MSL at the correct time...


exactly my point :D
Marijuana causes amnesia and other things I don't remember.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 27 2007 18:09 GMT
#7
Interesting, and nice write!
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 27 2007 18:10 GMT
#8
It's interesting that MSL winners are so much more dominant than OSL winners.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 27 2007 18:15 GMT
#9
damn thats cool lol
fookyou
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada351 Posts
October 27 2007 18:16 GMT
#10
It's rigged!! Haha. Thanks for the write-up .

But the way things look, Bisu will win the MSL again lol. But hopefully we get to see a rematch of GomTV S1! Savior and Bisu are on opposite sides of the bracket and their respective opponents don't look like they have much of a chance . WILL SAVIOR FINALLY BREAK THE BISU BUILD? OR WILL HE BE STEAMROLLED AGAIN. (Please not another 3-0 lol)
Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
October 27 2007 19:13 GMT
#11
it's funny that (T)NaDa always loses to (T)Oov and (T)Oov to (Z)sAviOr and (Z)sAviOr to (P)Bisu.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 27 2007 19:16 GMT
#12
On October 28 2007 04:13 Honk2000 wrote:
it's funny that (T)NaDa always loses to (T)Oov and (T)Oov to (Z)sAviOr and (Z)sAviOr to (P)Bisu.


Next MSL - (T)NaDa over (P)Bisu?
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 27 2007 19:18 GMT
#13
We can hope
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
October 27 2007 19:23 GMT
#14
nah
it's hwasin :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33672 Posts
October 27 2007 19:40 GMT
#15
bonjwa technically not slang, it's an old, barely used word that's been mangled so much, it might as well be slang I guess -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 27 2007 19:50 GMT
#16
On (Z)October 28 2007 04:16 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)October 28 2007 04:13 Honk2000 wrote:
it's funny that (T)NaDa always loses to (T)Oov and (T)Oov to (Z)sAviOr and (Z)sAviOr to (P)Bisu.


Next MSL - (T)NaDa over (P)Bisu?


No, [image loading]Testie over (P)Bisu
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 27 2007 19:52 GMT
#17
2003 TriGem MSL: iloveoov beats TNaDa and wins his 1st MSL on his 1st MSL appearance
2005 UZOO MSL: sAviOr wins his 1st MSL on his 1st MSL appearance
2006 GOMTV MSL S1: Bisu beats ZsAviOr and wins his 1st MSL on his 1st MSL appearance

interesting shit.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
October 27 2007 20:04 GMT
#18
What's with all the talk about Testie in MSL? He doesn't even go to korea, I thought. Or should it be "lol at the romanian guys"?
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 27 2007 20:12 GMT
#19
Actually sAviOr's first MSL was Spris and he lost to Themarine
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-27 21:07:09
October 27 2007 20:15 GMT
#20
On October 28 2007 05:04 Konni wrote:
What's with all the talk about Testie in MSL? He doesn't even go to korea, I thought. Or should it be "lol at the romanian guys"?


sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
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