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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 06:22:35
October 28 2007 06:20 GMT
#41
On October 28 2007 06:35 Last Romantic wrote:
Only two of that list are Royal Roaders though

Iono, I always thought Royal Roader is much cooler title than Bonjwa.


What's a royal roader?

edit: I thought royal roader was someone that won OSL, MSL and WCG?

Only Oov has won all three?
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7229 Posts
October 28 2007 06:23 GMT
#42
On October 28 2007 06:48 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2007 06:41 .dragoon wrote:
And the "level of play starts dropping a bit" really isn't that he's playing worse, but that people around him are playing better because of him.


I only partially agree with that. Usually, when these players win the OSL, they have reached the highest (professional) goals they could ever dream of: winning the two most competitive tournaments that exist. You could clearly see that NaDa had lost his "invincibleness" right after Panasonic. He went from extremely determined/confident during Panasonic to sloppy/nervous during Olympus. He was playing significantly worse because of this. He had nothing left to win, only stuff to lose.

Same happened to Oov, while Savior seems to still have "it" since his OSL loss... just a tad less, which makes all the difference.


these are the reasons that none of these players will be truly great IMO, if they had more determination they could be much better (if one of them had that determination theyd easily be the GOAT BW player)

GOATS in every sport/game dont get bored of winning, great players do.
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 28 2007 06:24 GMT
#43
winning a starleague on your first time qualifying for either msl or osl.

I thought there are three royal roaders. Bisu, sAviOr and Oov.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
October 28 2007 06:25 GMT
#44
ha saviors timeline sucks he skipped a msl
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 28 2007 06:31 GMT
#45
An OSL win is the pinnacle of Korean Progaming achievement, it's no surprise that it's so hard to repeat. Progaming requires ridiculous sharpness and practice motivation, and there just isn't much to motivate a champion after he's won the OSL. Every little bit of edge matters so much.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 08:50:06
October 28 2007 08:48 GMT
#46
On October 28 2007 15:24 kNyTTyM wrote:
winning a starleague on your first time qualifying for either msl or osl.

I thought there are three royal roaders. Bisu, sAviOr and Oov.


It's only StarLeagues broadcasted by OnGameNet

so that would be:

GARIMTO (Freechal)
BoxeR (Hanbit)
Nada (Panasonic 2002)
July (Gillette 2004)
Anytime (So1)
sAviOr (ShinHan 3)

and GiYom if you go by just OSL definition (Hanaro wasn't broadcasted by OGN but its successor tournaments [naver onwards] were OGN broadcasted; so it is an "OSL" but not from royal road context) Plus, whoever won the first OSL was going to be a royal roader no matter what, so it's a bit silly XP
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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 28 2007 09:35 GMT
#47
On October 28 2007 15:08 hwasingodlysense wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2007 10:39 HonestTea wrote:
The saying is:

MSL creates champions
OSL creates drama

osl is also for the people who likes passionate progaming.
now. koreans and i personally like this AND msl.

what about wcg
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 28 2007 09:41 GMT
#48
On October 28 2007 18:35 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2007 15:08 hwasingodlysense wrote:
On October 28 2007 10:39 HonestTea wrote:
The saying is:

MSL creates champions
OSL creates drama

osl is also for the people who likes passionate progaming.
now. koreans and i personally like this AND msl.

what about wcg


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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 28 2007 09:45 GMT
#49
On October 28 2007 15:23 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2007 06:48 PoP wrote:
On October 28 2007 06:41 .dragoon wrote:
And the "level of play starts dropping a bit" really isn't that he's playing worse, but that people around him are playing better because of him.


I only partially agree with that. Usually, when these players win the OSL, they have reached the highest (professional) goals they could ever dream of: winning the two most competitive tournaments that exist. You could clearly see that NaDa had lost his "invincibleness" right after Panasonic. He went from extremely determined/confident during Panasonic to sloppy/nervous during Olympus. He was playing significantly worse because of this. He had nothing left to win, only stuff to lose.

Same happened to Oov, while Savior seems to still have "it" since his OSL loss... just a tad less, which makes all the difference.


these are the reasons that none of these players will be truly great IMO, if they had more determination they could be much better (if one of them had that determination theyd easily be the GOAT BW player)

GOATS in every sport/game dont get bored of winning, great players do.

how about nada? if anyone, nada is truly great. hes won a major title in every era of progaming and time and time again has improved to keep up with the current gamers. he definitely doesnt seem bored of winning.

and what saviors done so far is pretty insane. looking at his individual games and his play, his level has dropped a bit, but if you look at his results he doesnt show a slump nearly as big as any of the other bonjwas did. after being dethroned by bisu in the first gomtv finals, he made the quarterfinals of both starleagues and now is in another MSL semifinal and he looks to be in an excellent position to make the OSL quarters too. pretty crazy.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 28 2007 09:52 GMT
#50
Bisu will break this and continue to dominate, TOSS PRIDE!
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 28 2007 12:00 GMT
#51
.dragoon is a smart guy.
i like your way of thinking dude.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
October 28 2007 12:00 GMT
#52
i have a question why OSL is harder than MSL ?

Is this because of the format of the tournament (group stage for OSL, and the other thing for MSL) ?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
October 28 2007 12:11 GMT
#53
It's basically more prestigious.
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 28 2007 13:39 GMT
#54
Hwasin or Sea are next in line, it gotta be a Terran
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 14:12:44
October 28 2007 14:12 GMT
#55
Bonjwas have all been considered newcomers at the time they won their first starleague, which means if there's gonna be a new one, I'm pretty sure we've almost never heard of him yet... or just a little.

Btw, it's also interesting to note that ALL BONJWAS WERE BORN ON NOVEMBER. :D
NaDa: 1984-11-20
Oov: 1983-11-05
sAviOr: 1987-11-23
Bisu: 1989-11-03
For 4 persons to be born on the same month, it's a (1/12)^3 = 1/1728 = 0.06% chance of happening if I'm not mistaken. -_-
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 28 2007 14:18 GMT
#56
On October 28 2007 23:12 PoP wrote:
Bonjwas have all been considered newcomers at the time they won their first starleague, which means if there's gonna be a new one, I'm pretty sure we've almost never heard of him yet... or just a little.

Btw, it's also interesting to note that ALL BONJWAS WERE BORN ON NOVEMBER. :D
NaDa: 1984-11-20
Oov: 1983-11-05
sAviOr: 1987-11-23
Bisu: 1989-11-03
For 4 persons to be born on the same month, it's a (1/12)^3 = 1/1728 = 0.06% chance of happening if I'm not mistaken. -_-


WOW I HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY AS OOV. (DIFFERNET YEAR)

I SHOULD'VE BEEN BORN IN KOREA DAMNIT FUCK
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 28 2007 14:29 GMT
#57
On a related note, it's almost Bisu's birthday :O
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
October 28 2007 15:22 GMT
#58
things like this make me believe starcraft progaming is staged
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
October 28 2007 15:33 GMT
#59
conspiracy theory!!
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
October 28 2007 15:52 GMT
#60
On October 28 2007 23:12 PoP wrote:
Bonjwas have all been considered newcomers at the time they won their first starleague, which means if there's gonna be a new one, I'm pretty sure we've almost never heard of him yet... or just a little.

Btw, it's also interesting to note that ALL BONJWAS WERE BORN ON NOVEMBER. :D
NaDa: 1984-11-20
Oov: 1983-11-05
sAviOr: 1987-11-23
Bisu: 1989-11-03
For 4 persons to be born on the same month, it's a (1/12)^3 = 1/1728 = 0.06% chance of happening if I'm not mistaken. -_-


*looks at his birthdate*

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