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Hi guys, here's what caught my eye so far.
On May 24 2016 07:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote: I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town. Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote: I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that. Why have you become a parrot LS? How was I being a parrot? I rather confused. Well it's quite simple really. You had backed yourself into a corner revealing both Koshi and I were town thus ignoring my "I could still be the first town," statement. Further to this you then used Kush's reasoning to escape your inevitable slip thus rendering you as a mere parrot. *fuck pictures in my quotes -V*
I don't believe HF went so far with wifom as to do what I think he did here, presumably spewing Koshi as town himself. Imo a followup here asking HF why he thinks Koshi was revealed as town would have given a good reason to lynch him already. The only possible answer would have been "I believe Koshi is town cause LS said he was town and I believe LS is mafia cause he said Koshi is town".
Having said that, I believe Koshi is town just based on this interaction. LS can be anything still. I know HF as a bold busser.
Next up is Damdreds filter cause he kinda hard aligns with HF early on, but not really cause the LS lynch quickly loses steam. When HF wagon starts building up he does something I can't explain to myself:
On May 26 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote: Idk super is still bugging me maybe I should listen to my early gut and just Lynch him then Lynch hf for bussing
On May 26 2016 04:58 Damdred wrote: Here's the truth, hf is going to flip town 95% of the time. No way he fucks his team mates over even if he's about to go to work mostly unless Marv is his team mate I guess. Then all that cred but yeah
I don't understand why he would expect HF to be bussing in the moment he thinks he's town. It also isn't explained. I also don't get why he now is hedging on super but wants to lynch my slot. Need clarification on this one.
Throughout the HF lynch he sheeped Palmar Marv as a reason to vote HF. Meanwhile defending him but kinda trying to look like he isn't (the it's just piss poor play thing, paraphrased "it's bad, not mafia"). Checking on his reads on the ppl he's sheeping: Marv no read, Palmar coinflip gut town.
What I can tell for sure is that Damdred was either very lazy which already earns him scum points and/or he was looking for a quick reason to become a part of the HF wagon which is also scummy. I want to hear about his HF super bus thingy.
On May 24 2016 11:07 Damdred wrote: I hard defended you in both games pretty heavily while we were alive together.
Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf
In reply to LS the "obviously" seems out of character too. It seems like the kind of obviously you put in there to shrug off suspicion (it's like saying that you don't see the need to explain why), especially cause it's not obvious at all, and so aren't the reasons for such a read on someone like HF.
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On May 24 2016 15:22 Superbia wrote: I'm interested to see how the "ritoky bot" processes this
##Vote: Ritoky
This vote is terrible. It has the smug tone to it that I associate with mafia and marv. It's just slapped down for no particular reason that a town could think of. If anything it's the sort of vote mafia places for association. The only motivation I could see is to scare ritoky into playing a standard game but then that motivation would be visible in the followup, and it isn't.
The tone is also what resembles the 3p tone in the game with a name I don't remember. Superbia simply can contribute a lot of good stuff as town and this doesn't look like it. Sup goes to scum pool with Damdred.
On May 24 2016 16:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway Is there any point to this post then? And considering how short this game is why did you feel the need to say this without reading LS posts in the first place? Doesn't make sense to me.
I already was thinking HF would be mafia if he tried to lynch LS on D1 even before the game started so I don't see why this concerned you so much, it's not like you're new on this forum either. If anything this looks like you're trying to stop SL from going after HF but you have 11 pages of filter so meh, I'll think about you being mafia if you're still alive by D3.
On May 24 2016 18:52 Holyflare wrote: So when did my pressure that was obviously meant to get things rolling become something that was a sincere push?? It heavily looked like (and definitely was with your captain obvious picture) that you assumed the push was to start something but now you're saying instead that you think it was real pressure and bad and I clearly misread LS's posts??
Here's the type of scummy obviously I also saw in Damdreds post btw. "Obviously I didn't want to lynch LS, I only wanted to get things rolling".
On May 24 2016 20:24 Tumblewood wrote: JAT: Why are your last three posts just taking Koshi down a notch "but SIGH I guess he's still town" And of course Koshi's town he's using all caps and agrees with me
Town lean on Tumble just for this. HF attacks stuff, JAT attacks stuff attacking HF, TW attacks JAT for attacking stuff attacking HF. Not really optimal play for a mafia witnessing that situation where JAT is actually helping them. I correctly tr TW in my last game for something similar in regards to slam, so I'm pretty confident he's town here as well. Plus HF making a case on him soon after, plus noticing what I did about superbias vote.
On May 25 2016 00:16 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote Superbia
Who asks what someone thinks of a player and then tells us that he's going to call him town later?
On May 25 2016 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2016 00:19 Superbia wrote:On May 25 2016 00:16 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote Superbia
Who asks what someone thinks of a player and then tells us that he's going to call him town later? Weak He is right though.
Just some more JAT stunts. HF's argument is ridiculous here, yet only JAT fails to notice. Why is someone supposed to not ask anything about a player only cause he has a read on him? Maybe he wanted a read on the guy he was asking the question to, no? Mafia siding is within JAT's town meta however so I just wanted to rub this into him.
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On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote: If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.
I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.
I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.
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On May 27 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote: If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.
I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread. I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others. No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.
Wrong, someone could still ask me why I don't think Koshi is mafia, and by preemptively saying why I remove the need of such a question, and let others get insight into what I think since my slot isn't widely considered town.
As usual, any conversation with you just generates clutter, I'll be back to doing my thing.
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On May 25 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote: well no I can explain my read on ritoky. hes the first person to help push holyflares case on lynchbaitweed. The second person on these spots is more often mafia then the person who originaly thought of the case and believes it (holyflare)
The triforce protects the triforce
He's completely wrong on my slot and HF in his reasoning. Kinda makes me want to TR him for TLI, plus the way he actually thought about his previous post to get to this one. I'll leave it at a weak TR until I see what I consider trademark SL town play, which might happen as I catch up.
On May 25 2016 07:38 Koshi wrote: It's like preferring a turtle over a rabid rabbit.
the turtle wins the race so I'm deeply offended by this post, my character irl is better described as a wise tree that occasionally emits scents of madness, or just a tree.
On May 25 2016 15:32 marvellosity wrote: bleh, i shouldn't have signed up but i really wanted to get a game in with HF :/
i'll see if i can come up with some sort of sensible vote later even if it is via filter.
Not exactly town marv meta here.
On May 26 2016 02:24 marvellosity wrote: Unless you all think I am mafia with palmar (of course it's possible) you just shouldn't lynch him today.
Kush and koshi seem relatively clear town Maybe jat as well but I haven't paid enough attention and last game that meant he was mafia but his posts are longer sometimes this game at least
I don't see why anything hf has done indicates him town. Ritoky is very sideline Superbia's anger kinda seems scummy but somehow I think it might be coming from town
#1 misses a shitton of fuck you im town arrogance. #2 Dont see why kush is relatively clear town when the first thing he did was suggesting a plynch on marv. Related to #1 and to kush actually not being easy to read for me at least. The jat stuff is inconclusive and I don't understand what he means with
but I haven't paid enough attention and last game that meant he was mafia which just doesn't make any sense. The superbia stuff rightly observes that his tone is off but doesn't want to conclude that he's actually mafia for it, instead the opposite.
I'm not a fan of removing marv early but this seems more in line with his scum play. Will probably think about it after handling super and damdred.
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Like the stuff about JAT and his last game doesn't even make sense if it only concerns his filter size as in the 6 days he needed to win the damdred hosted game, he had 15 pages of filter. In this one he has 11 within 1 cycle. That's still a pretty big difference.
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On May 27 2016 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 05:19 Vivax wrote: Like the stuff about JAT and his last game doesn't even make sense if it only concerns his filter size as in the 6 days he needed to win the damdred hosted game, he had 15 pages of filter. In this one he has 11 within 1 cycle. That's still a pretty big difference. It wasn't about filter size. And as much as I love being townread - filter size probably isn't the best way to read me. The damdred game was just horribly inactive and I killed everyone who did something against that.
Can you translate that quote to something that makes sense then? Cause it doesn't. He says last time you were mafia it was cause he didn't pay attention.
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Palmar/kush/marv/damdred/superbia/rels are my current possible scummers with superbia, damdred as the next best lynches. I dont have a good grasp on rels, palmar, kush atm but of what I read nothing striked me as townie. Will do more stuff tomorrow.
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On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote: ##vote damdred Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time
Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you.
This reads like a scumclaim, the vote switch to me afterwards looks like wifom planting. The lack of arse to do anything is within his scum meta. Then there's the NK but I don't see why that's even required as a reason, might as well just discuss who the third scum is.
Little theory besides this one: I don't see how scum wouldn't bus HF when he just straight up suicided. It's kinda tempting to believe anyone who wasn't voting him to be town.
##Vote marvellosity
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Spoilered cause what I read afterwards made this seem secondary.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 27 2016 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2016 07:12 Palmar wrote:On May 27 2016 07:10 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2016 07:08 Palmar wrote: ##vote marv
100% believe in koshi Is this trolling or serious? serious how though Koshi is trash + marv is town + Show Spoiler +you were town reading him right = trust Koshi that marv is scum??? I'd like some input on this post. Throughout D1 he consistently called marv scum. Right after the flip he seems to be opposed to the idea of lynching him even though the NK which is the only thing that could have changed his mind here shouldn't lead to that.
On May 27 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote: I don't think marv should get a pass at all btw.
This post looks bad. It gives zero opinions on marv, and it doesn't make any sense to post
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it in the current circumstances cause marv is getting voted already. The only instance where I would post it is if marv WAS actually getting a pass, which he isn't. It's a super disconnected post from the game.
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On May 28 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 01:02 Vivax wrote: it in the current circumstances cause marv is getting voted already. The only instance where I would post it is if marv WAS actually getting a pass, which he isn't. It's a super disconnected post from the game. marv is disconnected but it's due to his needy boyfriend.
But I'm talking about superbia ...
You mentioned Damdred spewing text right after marv voted for him, yet you don't seem to consider marv's play is indicative of him being mafia, or that Damdred actually voted him first.
Any reason not to be suspicious of marv?
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On May 28 2016 01:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 01:12 Vivax wrote:On May 28 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On May 28 2016 01:02 Vivax wrote: it in the current circumstances cause marv is getting voted already. The only instance where I would post it is if marv WAS actually getting a pass, which he isn't. It's a super disconnected post from the game. marv is disconnected but it's due to his needy boyfriend. But I'm talking about superbia ... You mentioned Damdred spewing text right after marv voted for him, yet you don't seem to consider marv's play is indicative of him being mafia, or that Damdred actually voted him first. Any reason not to be suspicious of marv? Lots of posts seem slightly townie. Scum Marv never would have nk koshi. It implicates him and there's no point because koshi doesn't convince people of his reads and his reads change a lot. You had to be there in the thread to realize this, but hfs lynch never would have happened without marv. Marv isn't active enough this game to justify bussing hf.
I'ma take a look at how the lynch got going in particular, meanwhile if you could point me to the posts you find townie and explain it would be cool.
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I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr. The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was.
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On May 28 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2016 02:49 Vivax wrote: I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr. The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was. HF made a case on superbia with many bulletpoints after he self voted. The self vote was a scumstrat to look town without having to do anything. (dont respond jat) ANYWAY... here's how the HF lynch went down. Superbia had his vote on him from way early game. Superbia had been afk so that vote was doing nothing. Palmar was under some pressure for not being very active. He votes HF for a bad point HF made. At this point I'm like, "ill vote for anyone on my lynch list, including HF." but my vote was still on ritoky because I thought we was a more viable lynch. No one other than palmar who was in the thread wanted to vote HF. But then marv comes in the thread and he's like, actually palmar is right about HF, and votes HF. Then I'm like, oh there's actually a wagon here? and I vote HF too. Then HF self votes cause he feels the pressure from Marv and doesnt' feel like putting in a lot of effort to look town. anyway yeah. Without marv the lynch probably woudl have never happened.
The bolded never happened. The closest thing you got is the yolo and it still has no connection at all to what Palmar said. Feels like you're making stuff up just to fit your story.
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I stand corrected I guess, but what can you deduce from this? That Palmar and marv get lynch cred for the HF lynch, which doesn't mean that marv didn't bus him.
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I am 100 % sure I would bus him with the way he was playing. That makes me like the theory that anyone not voting HF is town even more.
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Im back.
Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).
The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.
If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.
Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.
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so he will try to do it as either alignment
This should read "he would do it as mafia" cause mislynching me is simply his town meta.
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Btw Kush that was shittastic play.
And Damdred might as well tell us who he jailed, I don't know why he would keep holding on that information.
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