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On September 17 2015 12:48 VisceraEyes wrote: It's exam time mofo. Hope you studied. I must confess I did not have sexual relations with that woman. | ||
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So who might that be? Might be necessary. Except when the coach coach is BH of course. Then it would be redundant. Anyway, you know, for things like telling you what you can and can not to say to coaches. | ||
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With all that out of the way, I would like to say hello again to some, and to welcome newer players. | ||
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On October 10 2015 20:00 Stoicism_ wrote: Hello =) If I were to engage you in conversation, would you avoid it to maintain your 'fewer, longer' posts strategy, or will you indulge me? Why did you take a long break from mafia? I will indulge of course when I return to analyse and contribute if the question is still relevant at the time, but will include the response as part of the one or two posts I make at that time. Posting less often but with more content should help to both consolidate my thoughts and continue to take the long view of the game over time. It plays well into my typical starting strategy which relies more heavily process of elimination and goes through many iterations. Regarding my break, I stopped playing because I wasn't having fun. The threads get really long and reading them was tedious. Also, I used to be able to participate conversationally when I would go outside for a cigarette and I no longer smoke, meaning fewer check-ins. Coincidentally quitting cigarettes also kind of changed who I was a little bit, in a way that was real but also inexplicable, and I stopped enjoying some of the things I use to love and vice versa. I did play a few games on another site in the interim but the activity there is borderline (think maybe 200 posts for a day 1) which is really easy to keep up with and was a decent place to utilize my POE strategy without feeling like I couldn't contribute. | ||
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On October 10 2015 20:55 Stoicism_ wrote: How frequently can we expect these one or two posts at a time? daily? There may come a time where if I cant get a read off of your large walls of posts, ill need to engage you in some conversational style posting. Thats part of my process and how I form reads. It's the first sentence of my response. You didn't even have to read the whole wall of text you could just have read the first sentence. Spooky. "When I return" + "one or two posts at that time". Unless you're asking me when I'm coming back to the thread, in which case I can give you a detailed schedule and link you to my google calendar so you can know when I'm at the movies or masturbating, if that's what you want. Heh. | ||
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On October 11 2015 03:01 Eversince wrote: Mmk. I just find his introduction curious. Coming in, saying "hello" or whatever is whatever. Many have done it this game (and I'm sure many others). That isn't the issue I have with it. Here, an example; First couple post-> "Hi! my name is ES, let us have fun!" "I have x opinions for y reasons" "Explaining previous opinions posted for misunderstandings." vs "Hi! I want to know who the heck is getting advice from the same dude I am!" refute "No mate, I didn't mean to break x,y,z rules! I'll go ahead and just go away for a while" Which makes more sense per role for you? A long time ago when I first started playing here, Vivax had quite the silly streak. That went away after a while. Maybe he's just having a bit of silly-mode in the vein of meta-game, this being a game with coaches. In any case, I agree it's not alignment indicative but I appreciate the thought you've given it. On October 10 2015 22:40 Stoicism_ wrote: Maybe I was being optimistic by hoping 'When I return' would occur more than once a day. Why are you so prickly? And sure I'll take a copy of your schedule. Prickly seems to be my natural state. It's also something that happens when people come at me when I'm town. Obviously if you dislike my activity levels you might try to have me lynched for it as is your right to suggest, but I'm not sure why it's a topic of discussion mere hours into the game. You could just wait and see. Promising that I'm going to post X amount of times is quite silly. | ||
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On October 11 2015 05:04 Eversince wrote: Monday, 17th of May 2010. I'm going to assume he's been around for a while. Shoot me in the leg for thinkin' this isn't his first mafia game. If you click on my TL profile I've listed every game I've played on this site and the result. Reading me as mafia is pretty tricky early game, a bunch of people have to call me mafia with evidence I know is correct and then I don't do anything to change it because of that internal guilt that I'm just going to out my scum teammates so I just shut up and take it lying down or make one half-hearted half-baked post to try to dig out. Basically my late-game for scum is a generous 3/10. | ||
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Onegu: liking how comfortable he seems with the thread. Can possibly agree with gumdrop lynch but willing to extend benefit of the doubt regarding gumdrop to see what is said. Would not lynch. Gumdrop: waiting for the return of the jedi. Could lynch. Eversince: I understand the confusion with vivax she has. Vivax has seemed to finally switched off his troll mode from speed reading the thread. Thinking that Vivax was intentionally trying to disrupt things by saying nothing is natural for someone not familiar with him. Let's see where Vivax goes from here. Would not lynch. TheShining: AWOL Okay, I guess I'll do a few more this is easy. Kelsiersc: Sheeping Onegu on the gumdrop thing entirely. Gumdrop would definitely be a convenient target for scum in this scenario and sheeping keeps any potential backlash off KSC. Also the Moosy feel for his other scum read is basically a reply to my post regarding activity. Seems picked out at random and the post overall has very little conviction. Potential lynch candidate. Celestial: voting the AWOL guy. Has a big paragraph by my name that could have just said NAI. [association based on unflipped players ahead  has KSC, the other guy I find scummy, in his leaning town list. Potential lynch candidate.Fecal: unremarkable at this moment other than the obvious vivax stuff. Probably not a lynch candidate. Marv: being marv, not ready to say anything just yet. Sicklucker: seems pretty happy with himself and situation. Spouting off. I like it. Not a lynch candidate. Stoicism: seemed pretty interested in me, really wanted to interact with me but hasn't shown up since our little scuffle. Seemed like he was trying to have a conversation about nothing with me. Potential lynch candidate. Moosy: actually some good feels, though potential helpful-townie-scummer vibe but not really likely. Not a lynch candidate. So there you go. Scumreads: KSC/Celestial and one of stoic/shining/gumdrop. If I were to vote right now it would be KSC so I will do just that. ##vote KelsierSC Okay that's what I got. Gonna watch some TV now. You're welcome. | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: ObviousOne, why are you so focused on people talking about you or at you. In what way do you mean. If youre talking about my comment regarding stoic it's that he was pretty up in my face about me being accessible to him, which of course stemmed from him not being to read my post properly in the first place, and ended up not being here all day anyway. | ||
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On October 11 2015 17:21 Onegu wrote: Why does scum OO lie about that though. Unless your point is being he is just making shit up, but from the rest of his post I don't get that sense. Celestial is looking townie for that huge post but why it has KSC as more town than myself I will never know. I don't like moosy right now, his jump on gumdrop felt really opportunistic to me. I still don't like gumdrops entrance at all, and KSC follow up vote was fine for pressure but when mossy jumped on it it just felt wrong to me. Marv has until 24 hours to impress me before my vote goes on him for being lazy which is something town marv wouldn't do in a newbie game. Also @celestial didn't we just play in a game and I claimed VT and we went through the same thing. Scum OO tries very hard to be accurate as possible so there's no blowback early. I was in a rush to get around to watching a backlog of TV episodes so one "mistake" which relates to looking at things outside the context of the thread is the opposite of a scum tell for me. In any case, Stoic is off my list for possible candidates for today. I don't like excuses like "I was drunk" like if you can't just play when you're sober then you're mafia covering for your inactivity. KSC vote stays. Agree that Marv's working his way to candidacy today. | ||
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On October 11 2015 06:12 sicklucker wrote: You voted me . Scum will hold back from joke votes because it causes issues. you show you dont care about perception because a random vote in a newbie game will get many raised eyebrows. Obviousone is gonna be mad idc about him vivax stfu ill beat you up Just been going back through the thread. Why would I be mad? On October 11 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote: The only curious thing I saw was sicklucker questioning eversince's motives or whatever. How he got any other impression than new around here and very earnest and enjoyable is totally beyond me Interesting thing for a (town)marv to do, there was no pressure or threat of pressure towards Eversince. I could see him doing this as town if he's genuinely impressed or interested in playing more games with someone like Eversince. I could see (scum) marv might use this as a basis for pushing a (town)sicklucker but there's been no further indication that marv is even reading/playing right now. sicklucker had a pretty townie response to this, in rereading. The proceeding vivax-sicklucker interaction makes me like vivax less than originally thought. Still aware it was in the interim between silly and serious (if he made it to serious time again, haven't re-read that far). Sort of redeems himself with this post about the mental challenges many players including myself face when assigned a mafia team role. Also anyone who thinks that I'm scum with vivax and didn't decide in the mafia QT to have a laugh in the thread together and in general make distractions town playing the game is goofy, I didn't realize he's brought back some of his trolling when I signed up for this game but that's pretty much how I'd get my kicks this game. On October 12 2015 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote: For the record I'd like you to talk about the things wrong with the post, eversince, so I don't have to actually read it Yeah me neither. Kind of reminds me of the posts I saw about Onegu and myself written by Eversince. Lotta summary shit. TL;DR | ||
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On October 12 2015 07:34 The Shining wrote: Except no one knew you noticed it until right now because you said absolutely nothing of worth or value regarding my post. And how is it adding nothing? It added a player with reads into the game that had absolutely no posts or thoughts beforehand. I'm sorry that most of what I would've caught in the process of the game, I couldn't because I wasn't around. That was an amazing post regarding "so many things wrong" with my post. 10/10, would read again. Since nobody else is doing it, I'll ask you to get a nice post regarding who you think is mafia and a vote if applicable. | ||
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On October 12 2015 07:40 The Shining wrote: Reads post has scumreads. Go read it. ##Vote: FecalFeast Because I've got a case of the fuck its and I listed him first. I disagree almost entirely. Commentary inline Super underwhelming. Subjective, debatable, what is your expectation? You're repeating what he said about himself. I found his joke post of "worried about appearance obvious mafia" kind of ironic since he states in his very next post that Vivax is as underwhelming as he is, which shows he is quite aware of how he looks in-thread.Knowing how you look to others is how you get not lynched, or more importantly not mislynched. Also, most of his reads don't seem to lean very strongly either way which leaves a lot of wiggle room. Seems pretty convinced I'm mafia, even has his vote on me. Note this also means we're not likely to be mafia together, but it's also not impossible. Gums opening is awkward but not screaming scummy, wants OO to come back to confirm suspicion, Moosy is posting fine things but has the ability to play scum well. What do the previous things have to do with fecal's alignment? His eye is on vivax but he's just as bad. That's scumming yourself by default lol. That doesn't invalidate it as a scum read. And believing Vivaxs scum claim is just bad. I've seen vivax just roll over and die as scum but I haven't seen him outright claim it. Some people here will instalynch people who claim mafia. It's one of the easiest things you can do as mafia to create a why/why not discussion that distracts from legitimate talking points. I don't know if he's one of those people. | ||
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On October 12 2015 08:10 The Shining wrote: No reads on half the game and yes, I even said that he said that about himself. He also said it about one of his scumread, Vivax. So by that logic, if its an acceptable thing to scum someone for, its an acceptable thing to scum him for. In my experience, scum is much more aware of how they look because their only goal is to survive. Town cares, or should care, less about surviving and how they look and spend more time on how OTHERS, namely scum, look. Reading his filter doesn't look like he's that convinced. If you think you found scum, you push it. I just see a vote and some meh posts regarding you. The next few lines were examples of Fecal's reads that didn't lean strong either way. How did you not realize that? No reads on half the game - you don't need to tell people your town reads, it's just not necessary and sometimes gives mafia ideas for who best to kill, the unlynchables. How he looks - he doesn't seem to care that he looks bad, just states that Vivax looks bad. He didn't make any effort to make himself look any better from what I can see. Maybe he wanted to honeytrap vivax into shaping up, in an effort to either get him to start taking the game mega-seriously for one reason or another. I'm aware of how I look -- it's pretty obvious from the votes and general sentiment and my level of participation, but I just have to look slightly better than the scummiest guy in the thread and I don't get mislynched and I also don't get shot at night which is a good skill to have if I ever want to be good at the mafia side of things. Which in retrospect sucks because that means I'll have to spend more time in-game but that's what I signed up for, after all. This game is alright so far. His vote on me - probably could be swung away to another wagon, you have that right. But that's telling us something about him. I wish I knew more about his general style of play to see if this is out of the ordinary for his town play, but I'm not invested enough to do the research. Someone said he wasn't particularly fecalfeasty but didn't really expand on that idea and I'd like to hear more in that vein if it's indeed true. Sometimes it's easy to overlook in analysis that we're working with imperfect information and while he's not committed to scum reads, he's also not defended anyone that I can remember. I may just be the best candidate in his mind, at the moment of posting. If he leaves it there I might be miffed, but again, something that could be telling in the future with better information (flips). | ||
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On October 12 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote: ObviousOne posts very clean and almost too thought out for my taste, I remember reading him correctly as town when he got mislynched last time we played together, I don't know which game it was anymore though. I managed to get that read when he was in the process of trying to stop the lynch. Was it about a year ago when I was like "fuck it i'm town and i'm totes done with this game and this is my last one ever" post where I just wanted to not get mislynched? | ||
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On October 12 2015 08:45 Vivax wrote: Just the last one we played together, idk when that was. Anyway your posting felt sincerely frustrated, that's why I tr you. This game I believe you're sincere too with what you say but what's missing is anything that suggests you are involved in the game, but since you also said you quite cause of not having fun I'd like to ask you why you aren't having fun in this game. There's gotta be something? I would say I'm somewhere in the middle regarding how I feel about playing. It's not unfun but it doesn't pack the same entertainment value it did long ago. Maybe part of it is the pace, something slightly faster or a game with instant majority would be a lot more exciting but obviously that's not what a semi-newbie game is about and obviously I knew that coming in. The vanilla experience is just like vanilla ice cream, it's alright. I supplement my entertainment value with TV and video games and this is enough for the moment. What would make it more exciting with what we have is if the average level of participation was up a bit and some of the more active posters wasted less posts on quips and one-liners and bickering. It's a lot of crap to read that has no bearing on the game. My distaste for a lingering "derp phase" as they call it on omgus, where there's faffing about for the first half of the first day instead of getting right into it, might also be a part of it. | ||
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