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Trfel
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Not really sure that I'm qualified to play in a Ver game, but it can't hurt to try. | ||
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On May 07 2015 11:08 Foolishness wrote: Despite you putting my name there, I'm still not playing.  Way to ruin my day. | ||
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On May 09 2015 04:29 Alakaslam wrote: Hopefully you can return to playing soon. Always enjoy your posting /obs Or see PM  (well, almost always, anyway) | ||
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Hello. I was going to make some huge entrance post for this game, which I figured that approximately zero people would read. But then I didn't have enough time, so I didn't.My name is Trfel. So instead, I'll just cut to the point. I had this great toneread on Half the Sky, and then I realized that rsoultin already commented on the same thing. I agree that Half the Sky's "happiness" does feel very forced. I'm also somewhat suspicious of LightningStrike. Not for wasting posts, but for justifying a lower posting (and higher content) style by saying he will play like someone else did in a game isn't necessary at all. If LightningStrike wanted to use a low post count style because of the post limit, I would expect him to just go ahead and do that (and quite possibly announce what he would be doing). But I really don't understand why he would justify this by comparing it to someone else in a different game. I would be inclined to think that KelsierSC is town, but this post gives me pause. On May 10 2015 09:58 KelsierSC wrote: Rsoultin already expressed that she is suspicious of Half the Sky, so I'm really not sure why KelsierSC is asking this. KelsierSC has no reason to say this, so it feels like buddying to me.rsoul you got a mafia yet? | ||
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On May 10 2015 10:33 KelsierSC wrote: Which shows that you did not read the post very carefully at all. You seem willing to be present in the thread and to talk with people, but you aren't reading carefully. Suspicious.she made a post with a lot of words in it but I had no idea who was mafia. + Show Spoiler [Explanation] + On May 10 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: First, there aren't actually that many words. It's just a post with a lot of quotes and white space.2! ay! but don't you want to be the same alignment as me?  since you think i can suss you out 100% of the time? lolmmmm happy dance doesn't seem too happy town here. stop. again. stop. then happy dance? i dunnae hts we may be on opposing sides again :/lol yeah? oh damn, you caught me xP shoulda read my pm! (the role changes how towny i am, does it? xP such odd ideas you have, ksc) hmmm try hard right from the start, ja? pero i don't know why you'd want to waste a post on saying my role pm changes my level of towniness, any more than why ls would waste a post saying hi before commenting on a geript student V style posting strategy one post and i'm already your favorite person, net hubby? lol >< that's awfully quick, no? what makes you think so? (besides me saying so )Yamato-kun! how happy are you today? lol...finally ending that scum streak maybe? I colored rsoultin's post as indicated by her statements. She's pushing at least the same level of suspicion on multiple people as you are with you own accusation (that rsoultin's made a wordy post with no scumreads). | ||
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1. marvellosity 2. Onegu 3. GlowingBear 4. Trfel 5. sandroba 6. Half the Sky 7. Xatalos 8. yamato77 9. batsnacks 10. ObiWanShinobi 11. rsoultin 12. Oatsmaster 13. LightningStrike 14. Blazinghand 15. RebirthOfLeGenD 16. Bill Murray 17. Damdred 18. KelsierSC 19. TalkingDead 20. Palmar 21. VisceraEyes 22. justanothertownie 23. Vivax 24. Stutters695 | ||
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On May 10 2015 10:52 KelsierSC wrote: What do you currently think about rsoultin, then?pushing suspicion isn't calling someone mafia, hence the question. On May 10 2015 11:00 rsoultin wrote: Oh hush, you...hrum, truffle-bby you talk of buddying while mirroring my obviously wonderful preliminary reads but lol >< you don't see the humor in that? xP i presume since you're suspicious of ksc and talking of buddying you find me town (another easy read and i already told everyone as much xP) what's with reposting the player list? Anyway, I didn't repost the player list... I originally added the filters, the official player list is a copy-paste of the player list that I posted On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote: I'm obviously biased about myself... but Half the Sky only made one post, with nothing of actual value.HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans. On May 10 2015 09:12 Half the Sky wrote: Do tell me how you managed to arrive at your conclusion from this post?1/10 Town here. Again. *happy dance* Excited for this game, particularly with some of the possible roles I've not seen yet in normal games (puppeteer, dreamflower, pardoner, nuker etc). | ||
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I'll get to this game in a few hours at the latest. I am sorry for my absence today, I'll be better during the week than on weekends. The purpose of this post is to ensure that I comply with the "one post every 24 hours" rule. Meanwhile, enjoy some music. | ||
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You nuked me for low activity on a weekend, and Mothers' Day? I really hope you are not town here, because you being town would really kill my motivation to play this game. I mean, if you're going to give the majority of your posts for the first 24 hours away, you really shouldn't be killing me for not playing in a 24 hour period. | ||
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If you're trying to get rid of an inactive, wait for the later part of the phase, so you can see if they start playing more. Especially because I specifically announced that I would be playing more tonight. If you want to make an inactive play, you don't nuke them... that's the most anti-movitational thing you can possibly do. Thanks a ton. | ||
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On May 11 2015 16:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Please explain this? I don't see this listed as a possible role in the role list, and I was unable to launch a nuke, so...Nukes can be duds, which means they don't kill anyone even though there are mod posts and all that. | ||
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On May 11 2015 16:31 Blazinghand wrote: If my play doesn't speak for itself, then I don't deserve to be saved.i have the power to save you from the nuke. why should I use this on you | ||
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Wasn't expecting that, but I suppose I can't complain. | ||
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On May 11 2015 16:52 Blazinghand wrote: Thanks for saving me, I really do appreciate it.yeah you seemed pretty mad at getting nuked so i stopped it. i figure that anger was real. welcome back to life trfel now I sleep But why wouldn't Trfel be mad about being nuked as well? | ||
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A Post from Trfel! Table of Contents 1. Preface 2. Bill Murray 3. GlowingBear 4. KelsierSC 5. Townreads 6. Questions Preface Some of this post (including this preface) was written before the anti-nuke. I'm tired and too lazy to edit it. If I'm going to be playing this game knowing that I get nuked at the end of the cycle, at least I'm going to play it my way. So you will be dealing with extremely long posts, random Styx songs, and complete lack of self confidence. I'm not going to adjust my play to please people who nuke me for inactivity on Mothers' Day. If you don't like it, be glad I won't be here for very long. On the bright side, at least I'm not going to be lynched today. Listen to the above song, it's really quite good. And fitting for the occasion. This song is a good example of why I like Styx: their songs have good melodies and good chord progressions, but they all have fairly good lyrics and most of them actually say something rather profound, or evoke a deep emotion. This song in particular makes me think of my friends and family separated by time and space, and pains me because in many cases, there is no more time. Bill Murray I do not have the ability to call down nukes. I have learned that Bill Murray's nuke is real or he has a role specifically allowing him to fake nuke people (which I do not believe is specified by the OP, can anyone else confirm this?). So, I'm obviously biased against Bill Murray. We didn't get along all that well in Student Mafia VIII, despite both being town. He really doesn't like my style of using longer posts. And I'm obviously very annoyed at being nuked for wanting to spend time with my family on Mothers' Day, while saying that I would catch up with the game this evening (and Bill Murray supposedly read my filter). Everything about Bill Murray's play is screaming mafia. But can town really be completely lazy, and decide to do this? I can't rule it out, especially knowing that Bill Murray really doesn't like me. So I think that it is best if I refrain from posting reads on Bill Murray, because anything that I say is clouded in personal bias and frustration. GlowingBear On May 11 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: So, GlowingBear doesn't want mafia to shoot other mafia, thus wanting mafia to stay alive?JAT and Marv are underwhelming. Mafia please shoot one of them if they're town so I don't have to think about them. More seriously though... he provided an early townread on batsnacks, and then reverses that townread for poor reasons (remembering that batsnacks' first post, and an unflipped association read). However, I do like his early pressure on Damdred. And his posts seem to have a carefree attitude, he really doesn't seem like he cares what people think about him. I'm not too certain about this, but I'm slightly leaning town on GlowingBear at this time. KelsierSC I'm suspicious of KelsierSC. He opened the game very aggressively, pushing suspicion at many players (LightningStrike, rsoultin, and Damdred). His read development on these three players is very interesting. LightningStrike + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote: The initial scumread.you have used 3/10 already 1 to say hello and then 2 more to say you are going to play like someone else and that you will have a hard time posting seems like you are trying to cover potential inactivity/shit posts already, not looking good. for you. On May 10 2015 19:27 KelsierSC wrote: Lightningstrike - called him scum because his first 3 posts were terrible and he has run away like a scaredy cat. pretty weak response overall On May 10 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote: LS, that wall of text is hard to read but it's good you are putting reads and stuff forward, I will retract my scum read on you for now. I don't think you have said anything particularly controversial in your post, things are sort of "odd" "pretty bad" "we shall see", can you go against the wall of text style and maybe give some towns and some scum? if you don't have any then just say that On May 10 2015 23:45 KelsierSC wrote: well, my initial scum read on him was because the first few posts were terrible and didn't say anything. He said he was going to post in a specific, albeit terrible, way and now he has actually made a contribution to the game I don't have any reason to scumread him anymore. I'll reevaluate him when he gives more as his post didn't break any new ground, null for now I don't see how KelsierSC's read progression matches LightningStrike's play. KelsierSC was very suspicious of him early on, and then dropped these suspicions for seemingly little reason at all, while still stating reservations (specifically, that LightningStrike's post didn't make any strong reads). Later, KelsierSC says that LightningStrike being all over the place isn't alignment indicative, suggesting that he has some knowledge of LightningStrike's meta. But this indicates that KelsierSC's early suspicion of LightningStrike is false. KelsierSC keeps going back and forth with his LightningStrike read, and this doesn't look good to me. rsoultin + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 09:58 KelsierSC wrote: No if you were traitor you would know by now. rsoul you got a mafia yet? On May 10 2015 11:35 KelsierSC wrote: I don't really understand why people are so quick to call rsoul town. Nothing jumps out at me as being particularly townie. A lot of people seem quick to call her town and sort of buddy up. She is bringing up the points she things are important but I don't agree with all of it. i don't agree with the HTS read and the rest of what she says is pretty lacklustre On May 10 2015 19:27 KelsierSC wrote: rsoul - Lot of people call her town but I don't really know her style, her posts give me brain cancer. If you break down what she has said so far the only real commitment is HTS is scum, everyone else is "leaning town" or "town" From there, KelsierSC adds rsoultin to his town circle. On May 11 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote: I decided to add Rs because she is someone I remember being active in the night and did give lots of reads and explanations, it takes a bit of digging but it is there. mostly the fact that I remember her , some people called her town and some people, myself included, saying "woo take care don't town read her yet", probably means she is town. I don't understand what KelsierSC was doing with his initial question to rsoultin. Initially, I thought it was most likely asking for rsoultin's townreads because he was townreading rsoultin and wanted to know. However, KelsierSC denied this, so he was either genuinely curious (in which case he didn't seem at all interested in the answer or its implications) or using the question as a means of pushing suspicion onto rsoultin (which didn't result in a read of rsoultin). Either way, when I asked KelsierSC for a read on rsoultin, he just complained that people were townreading rsoultin for bad reasons, and his read seemed to end up at null. He basically is suspicious of rsoultin for no good reason, and then is more focused on showing why other people's townreads of rsoultin are bad than doing anything else, while his own read on rsoultin is null. Damdred + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 11:29 KelsierSC wrote: you believe HTS has a forced tone and is mafia? but you just wrote she has a good tone about her. that is what is confusing me, how can rs have good ideas about hts but hts have a good tone to you? Initially, KelsierSC is suspicious of Damdred for a contradiction in his reads. On May 10 2015 19:27 KelsierSC wrote: Then KelsierSC included Damdred in his town circle. But then, he proceeds to argue with Damdred over some townreads, eventually resulting in this:Damdred - probably the person i've been struggling with the most. I didn't like his early rsoul read but he has defended it pretty well, I also didn't like his prepared play, to be honest it didn't look like it achieved much, but I guess Damdred decided Trfel and I were town from it and got called scummy for it. It seems a strange thing to do as scum, so i'm not going to wide eyed over it. I think his GB reads were actually quite strong post (8), they seemed to come from a town perspective. following on from that he has been active this phase and generated a lot of discussion so overall I think he is town for now. On May 11 2015 13:11 KelsierSC wrote: KelsierSC has no reason to argue with his townread, and eventually reluctantly agree that he went nowhere and Damdred is still (grudgingly) town.as for my fight with damdred...i guess town can disagree with eachother sometimes KelsierSC seems to be playing to keep his options open. He is throwing a lot of suspicion around, especially early in the game, and his reads change in a way that I have difficulty explaining from a town mindset. However, KelsierSC has been extremely active and promoting discussion. He completely ignored the Night 0 post limit. This makes me much more hesitant to scumread him, because I don't think that scum would be posting so much. But I do not think that activity alone is a good enough reason to townread him here. Town Reads Damdred + Show Spoiler + Initially I felt that Damdred was suspicious for making reads that felt strange to me (for reasons I don't care to elaborate on at this time). However, he has been widely townread. Were Damdred mafia, I would have expected him to back off a bit, but he has continued to change his reads and find new suspicions. Furthermore, he's brought up some better points lately. I don't really see Damdred being mafia with this play. Half the Sky + Show Spoiler + Good analysis and focused. My tonereads still need work, apparently. (not that this is anything new) sandroba + Show Spoiler + He's extremely focused on his scumreads, for which he provides some good points. And he also seems willing to discuss and reconsider. Enough to townread him for now, at least. rsoultin + Show Spoiler + I'm sleepy. Questions Damdred and VisceraEyes: + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2015 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote: I really don't like what batsnacks is doing so far this game, he comes across as trying intentionally to be mysterious and nonsensical. A style we can all pretty much recognize I'm sure. On May 10 2015 13:25 Damdred wrote: Firstly VE, I like your batsnacks part about how he is trying to be intentionally mysterious. Please explain what you mean in these quotes, about batsnacks being "intentionally mysterious"? What does this make you think about his alignment? KelsierSC: Can you please respond to the above points that I made? (just the main points will suffice) | ||
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Last game that I played with Bill Murray, he seemed somewhat willing to change his reads due to the thread sentiment. The biggest example of this is that he posted a case on scott31337 (and was correct), but many people said that he was wrong, so he felt that his case was terrible. Here, he isn't acknowledging other people's reads at all, he feels determined to make all of his reads alone. Bill Murray, you played one game with me, in which I was shot by the vigilante for being bad. In that game, I played differently from my normal playstyle, and the result was not very good. Do not nuke me for meta that is incorrect (as stated by several people other than myself) without at least acknowledging them. The tone point that Palmar brought up against sandroba is pretty interesting. Though I don't think it is anywhere near enough to make me want to lynch sandroba. Other than that, there are lots of less active players to be suspicious of, and that I would be willing to lynch, but nothing really concrete. I guess I'm probably wrong on KelsierSC, his posts are frequent and he really does appear to be trying to solve the game. I really think it's best to wait for Blazinghand to provide reads before deciding one way or the other about him. However, I don't think that scum would be overly opposed to using an anti-nuke on town. I can't really judge how much towncred it would gain him, but I feel that an anti-nuke to save a scum buddy (who is likely going to be somewhat suspected) would give him a lot of suspicion, while an anti-nuke on a random early nuke makes him look good and potentially allowing him to save a scummy person later without consequences. I'll go dive some filters in a bit. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Again, how can the nuke not be real? "Secret role" aside, I see no mention of fake nukes in the role list.Vivax will hop back on my lynch list if he continues to do as little as possible. Also if that nuke is real then we are 100% lynching BM either today or tomorrow. And I think that maybe lynching Bill Murray is a necessity, just to make him stop nuking people. Or maybe he is out of nukes now? | ||
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