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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 25 2014 13:55 GMT
#7
/in
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 25 2014 21:49 GMT
#56
On February 26 2014 06:34 Palmar wrote:
doc can't heal n1
Oh I didnt even realize that. Did the first game have that rule? 20% chance to luckbox into a cop kill seems lame.

I thought the point of the game was to get dueling cop claims.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#67
like, I can't see town winning if mafia hits their 20%er.

mafia will claim cop on day 1 and if there's no counter, town is SOOL.

----------

Having 2 cop claims on N0 seems much more interesting to me. 2 sets of results on day 1. good stuff.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#68
Oh I forgot flips always reveal role here
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 22:05 GMT
#92
If VT dies N0:

- Cop should claim

elseif Doc dies N0:

- Cop should claim ONLY if he has a redcheck

elseif Cop dies N0:

- Maybe Doc should claim. Gonna give this some more thought
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 22:14 GMT
#101
On February 27 2014 07:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If a VT dies N0 the cop should claim if he thinks it's a good idea. I'd say if he has a greencheck on the dead VT, then he shouldn't claim unless scum is fakeclaiming, because otherwise why bother right

Well we'll be @ mylo. So I think cop claims. Then after the inevitable counter we vote no-lynch. Then @ night we can all vote on 1 player for both cops to check (and for the doctor to heal). This does 1 of several things:

- If they both say scum then no prob, we lynch scum
- If they both say town then we have a confirmed town that we'll never lynch. And it's gonna be someone that people are likely suspicious of
- If they disagree and the person is scum, the real cop now knows the whole scumteam
- If they disagree and the person is town, that person now knows which cop is legit
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 22:20 GMT
#104
If doc claims and isn't countered then we have confirmed town. Seems good if we're planning on lynching day 1 since we'll be @ mylo.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 22:38 GMT
#109
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#124
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 00:04 GMT
#180
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 00:08 GMT
#182
On February 27 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 27 2014 07:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Here's the other thing w/ the cop dying N0.

If we are about to lynch scum, there WILL be a doc claim. Then the real doc counters and we end up w/ the claim anyway. @ least if we force the claim early, we're making scum commit to their lie before the fact.


or, we mislynch and go into N1 with zero chance of survival because scum will just shoot the doctor -.-

But we will mislynch if there is no claim. So you're saying that you prefer to put all of our eggs in the docs basket and pray for a hero heal. Cause that's the only way we win if the cop dies night 0 and the doc doesn't claim D1.


We WILL mislynch if there is no doc claim? Wat. We can lynch just fine if there's no doc claim. The fact of the matter is, if the doc claims and we mislynch we 100% lose N1. You're the one putting all the eggs in one basket by not giving us a second shot at a lynch in case we screw up
Yes, if scum is about to be lynched, he WILL claim doctor. Do you disagree?

Yes I disagree because the D1 lynch will be between two 'cops', so the guy we're lynching has already claimed something else. No reason for doc to claim before D2.
This entire conversation is based on if the cop is shot N0.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 05:19 GMT
#195
On February 27 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
so BH is good townie, xata and artanis slightly less so and I dont really think JarJar is town just for being noob.

Explain how I'm being noob please. I think I defended the doctor claim thing pretty well. In fact I'm curious how anyone can disagree w/ me on it @ this point.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 16:07 GMT
#229
So what's he consenses? Should we post who we suspect/who we want the cop to check?

Yeah I get that scum killing the cops target would suck but @ least we'd be getting rid of a townie that people are suspecting.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 16:46 GMT
#248
Ok, I think the benefits of giving reads outweighs the downsides.


This post from Sn0 is scummy to me:
On February 27 2014 07:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
If I was the medic, and the doc claimed (obviously post n0), I'd probably not protect the doc since scum literally can't shoot the doc.
K, he typod here. Sentence should read as:

"If I was the medic, and the COP claimed (obviously post n0), I'd probably not protect the COP since scum literally can't shoot the COP. "

To me this sounds like a scum mindset. A townie would say "I'd probably not protect the either of the claimed COPs" The way he words it makes it seem like he knows who the real cop is gonna be.

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 16:50 GMT
#250
On February 28 2014 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear JJD,

When you get towncred for being demonstrably incorrect about the situation, that doesn't mean ur supposed to keep being blatantly wrong.

Sincerely,
Me
What was I demonstrably incorrect about?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:03 GMT
#256
On February 28 2014 01:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
u were demonstrably incorrect about the claiming logic early game. Which BH was quick to point out meant that ur probably town cuz u didn't think through claims.
We can discuss the whole "doc claims if cop dies" debate again if you want but I feel like I won that argument.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#258
On February 28 2014 02:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
He isnt incorrect here though. Did you scumslip sn0

did u miss the part where i said "still wrong"?

there's no mention of a counterclaim in that post cuz i was wifom'ing the no-counter-claim scenario.

in the counter claim scenario I don't think u protect either cop.

I saw no indication that you were talking about wifom for a no counter scenario. You said "scum literally can't shoot the [cop]" The only reason that would be true is because of a counter.

not to mention the fact that you know there will be a counter since you made this post before roles were sent:
On February 26 2014 07:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
Of course there will be a counter.

Unless maf is hella lucky in which case the cop will be flipped and there's no way maf claim obviously. But by the same token even if maf hit the cop N0, the game still goes on its not like town straight up lose.

Now, if maf hit the DOCTOR N0, then shenannies start happening because town can't cop claim anymore (unless they cop-checked scum N0).

Alright this is working out. me likey.




JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:12 GMT
#259
I also think this post is Sn0 getting pissed off that I was getting towncred my "noob mistake"

On February 27 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
oke jjd is actively promoting ways for town to lose tho wtf

JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:44 GMT
#264
On February 28 2014 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:And yes, you just identified the part where I said u were full of bad ideas and right around there BH chipped in with "well that makes JJD town".
So why were you pissed about it? Didn't you think "Maybe he's right"?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 17:45 GMT
#266
On February 28 2014 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hours earlier I believed there had to be a counter. I actually think the no-counter game is playable for scum atm.
Did you indicate this at all?
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