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A WCS Stream for the French-Speaking Countries

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SC2Kerri
Profile Joined November 2010
France91 Posts
February 14 2014 19:54 GMT
#1
Dear Starcraft II community,

My name is Sebastien « Kerri », I am the Starcraft II Tournament Director at O’Gaming TV.

France has one of the biggest community in Europe and is very structured thanks to two very professional TVs: O’Gaming TV & Millenium TV. You probably know us and you already followed our different products: Dailymotion Cup , NationWars, MSI Pro Cup, Numericable M-House Cup, Iron Squid I & II. We made the best players come in our country, we gave to the Starcraft II fans the best shows and gathered the French-speaking countries on high-quality streams.

O’Gaming, aAa – which was in charge of casting WCS in 2013 - and Millenium have recently wanted to build a partnership and to work together to apply for casting in French WCS Europe. This Partnership is for us the best way to enable all our fans meet the biggest SC2 competition with all the best French casters.

Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.

We love Starcraft II. We love E-Sport. We love WCS. If you support our work, I kindly invite you to share this post !

Original Facebook post

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#WCSenFrancais
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Kerri
O'Gaming SC2 Producer / Nation Wars /Iron Squid / External Tournament Parternership
Punchline!
Profile Joined June 2013
France42 Posts
February 14 2014 19:57 GMT
#2
As one of the best French team, we do agree with your request and we support you
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2014 20:01 GMT
#3
Looks like ESL want to have those viewers by themself
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 20:09:14
February 14 2014 20:08 GMT
#4
finally an initiative!

"la première ligue" -__-
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
February 14 2014 20:08 GMT
#5
On February 15 2014 05:01 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Looks like ESL want to have those viewers by themself

Rather "Blizzard & Twitch" association.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
February 14 2014 20:14 GMT
#6
title should be "A WCS Stream for the French-Speaking viewers"

On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
O’Gaming, aAa – which was in charge of casting WCS in 2013 - and Millenium have recently wanted to build a partnership and to work together to apply for casting in French WCS Europe.

that's huge considering the current state of french gaming tv streaming channels
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
PengWin_SC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Switzerland433 Posts
February 14 2014 20:16 GMT
#7
This post is a little bit misleading as it doesn't mention what the dispute is in the first place, so allow me to explain for those who don't know. If any part of this is wrong, please feel free to correct me:

The most popular french streams, those interested in covering this event, are all users of the streaming platform Dailymotion. Blizzard has an exclucivity agreement (and has since the beginning of 2013 if I remember correctly) with Twitch. This isn't a matter of someone trying to fuck over the French scene, this is purely and simply the French streams not agreeing to use Twitch for whatever reason (maybe they're sponsored by Dailymotion or something, I don't know).

As long as the French streams continue to broadcast only on Dailymotion, or as long as the WCS-Twitch partnership exists, there simply won't be French scenes. It's very unfortunate, but perfectly understandable from Blizzard's perspective.
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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 20:17:34
February 14 2014 20:16 GMT
#8
I really don't like French casters but I don't see why there couldn't be a French stream..
Edit : Oh nvm, ^ this explains it
barny94
Profile Joined April 2010
France39 Posts
February 14 2014 20:17 GMT
#9
Last Year, aAa/Millenium/Ogaming Stream for WCS Finals Season 3 had a peak at 8k5 viewers and were like 7k during the whole week end ! We deserve a (great) French Stream too (plz), Blizzard!

#WCSenFrancais !!!!
JahVidi
Profile Joined October 2011
France8 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 20:24:48
February 14 2014 20:20 GMT
#10
Please Blizzard, ESL doesn't develop E-Sport in France like Millenium, OgamingTV or Team-aAa are doing.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 20:22 GMT
#11
I'd like to know why ESL doesnt allow it. If its because they dont want to use twitch then they have no shot at all.
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
February 14 2014 20:23 GMT
#12
I don't watch WCS in french but I know a lot of my friends do. Common Carmac, you can do better than that, weren't you the one saying France had a very good community ? I see really no reason for ESL to forbid anything.

#WCSenFrancais
"Quantity is quality by itself"
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
February 14 2014 20:23 GMT
#13
On February 15 2014 05:16 PengWin_SC wrote:
this is purely and simply the French streams not agreeing to use Twitch for whatever reason (maybe they're sponsored by Dailymotion or something, I don't know).

Dailymotion has a higher CPM for french audience
MilleniumTV has been sponsored by DM for long
Ogaming only switched from twitch to DM recently, but just because of the higher CPM, no sponsoring AFAIK

monopoly suxx
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
Nazca
Profile Joined January 2013
France42 Posts
February 14 2014 20:25 GMT
#14
PengWin is right about the reason. Dailymotion actually pays better the streamers, which is why most French eSports streams are hosted on that platform.

It would be a real shame. French main structures (aAa, Millenium and O'Gaming) love eSports and StarCraft II, and make huge efforts to produce original content for the community.

Please, ESL, I hope you reconsider your position, please.

#WCSenFrancais
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 20:29 GMT
#15
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2014 20:30 GMT
#16
On February 15 2014 05:16 PengWin_SC wrote:
This post is a little bit misleading as it doesn't mention what the dispute is in the first place, so allow me to explain for those who don't know. If any part of this is wrong, please feel free to correct me:

The most popular french streams, those interested in covering this event, are all users of the streaming platform Dailymotion. Blizzard has an exclucivity agreement (and has since the beginning of 2013 if I remember correctly) with Twitch. This isn't a matter of someone trying to fuck over the French scene, this is purely and simply the French streams not agreeing to use Twitch for whatever reason (maybe they're sponsored by Dailymotion or something, I don't know).

As long as the French streams continue to broadcast only on Dailymotion, or as long as the WCS-Twitch partnership exists, there simply won't be French scenes. It's very unfortunate, but perfectly understandable from Blizzard's perspective.

But Blizzard said that you can ask permission from blizzard so they can stream in other platforms than Twitch..
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 20:34:11
February 14 2014 20:32 GMT
#17
I don't think ESL has any say in this, especially if the matter of disagreement is the blizzard/twitch relationship. Blizzard has no reason not to provide a French stream, they just want to cash in the viewers and for that they most likely need it to be streamed on twitch.

Also you can just go ahead and restream with french voice-over on dailymotion even if it's "illegal" who will Blizzard sue ?
SC2Kerri
Profile Joined November 2010
France91 Posts
February 14 2014 20:32 GMT
#18
But Blizzard said that you can ask permission from blizzard so they can stream in other platforms than Twitch..


you are right
O'Gaming SC2 Producer / Nation Wars /Iron Squid / External Tournament Parternership
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
February 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#19
I don't think it's ESL's call, right? As stated above, it seems to be more on Blizzard/Twitch's end with regards to exclusivity.

Unless I'm missing something (and I might very well be!), either Blizzard will have to burn Twitch (unlikely) or the French broadcast will have to happen on Twitch.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
JahVidi
Profile Joined October 2011
France8 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 20:35:57
February 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#20
On February 15 2014 05:29 NovaMB wrote:
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that


On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.


ESL decision, not Blizzard or Twitch.
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