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myxoma_strain
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom371 Posts
February 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#21
On February 15 2014 05:32 SC2Kerri wrote:
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But Blizzard said that you can ask permission from blizzard so they can stream in other platforms than Twitch..


you are right

So why on earth would you ask ESL instead?
Stalquaire Blinque
Profile Joined June 2013
France5 Posts
February 14 2014 20:37 GMT
#22
Thanks for screwing us, again..
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 20:39 GMT
#23
On February 15 2014 05:35 JahVidi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:29 NovaMB wrote:
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.


ESL decision, not Blizzard or Twitch.

Blizzard made the contracts with twitch. ESL has a contract with Blizzard. Talk to Blizzard
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2014 20:40 GMT
#24
On February 15 2014 05:35 myxoma_strain wrote:
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On February 15 2014 05:32 SC2Kerri wrote:
But Blizzard said that you can ask permission from blizzard so they can stream in other platforms than Twitch..


you are right

So why on earth would you ask ESL instead?

Maybe only organizer can ask permission? ESL is organizing WCS EU.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 14 2014 20:40 GMT
#25
On February 15 2014 05:39 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:35 JahVidi wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:29 NovaMB wrote:
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that


On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.


ESL decision, not Blizzard or Twitch.

Blizzard made the contracts with twitch. ESL has a contract with Blizzard. Talk to Blizzard

Millenium, O'Gaming and aAa have had a ton of appointments at Blizzard HQ to talk about that.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 20:42 GMT
#26
On February 15 2014 05:40 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:39 NovaMB wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:35 JahVidi wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:29 NovaMB wrote:
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that


On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.


ESL decision, not Blizzard or Twitch.

Blizzard made the contracts with twitch. ESL has a contract with Blizzard. Talk to Blizzard

Millenium, O'Gaming and aAa have had a ton of appointments at Blizzard HQ to talk about that.

Well if Blizzard doesnt allow it, I dont know what ESL is supposed to do here.
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
February 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#27
On February 15 2014 05:42 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:40 Boucot wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:39 NovaMB wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:35 JahVidi wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:29 NovaMB wrote:
Talk with Blizzard then, they made the decision to go twitch exclusive, cant blame ESL for that


On February 15 2014 04:54 SC2Kerri wrote:
Today, ESL Decision was given to us: Access to the WCS is forbidden to French organizations.


ESL decision, not Blizzard or Twitch.

Blizzard made the contracts with twitch. ESL has a contract with Blizzard. Talk to Blizzard

Millenium, O'Gaming and aAa have had a ton of appointments at Blizzard HQ to talk about that.

Well if Blizzard doesnt allow it, I dont know what ESL is supposed to do here.

If i understand correctly, blizzard does allow it, but ESL, organiser of the matches, won't let the french streamers in the lobby
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
Hds
Profile Joined July 2011
France200 Posts
February 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#28
Hahaha so funny, if I understand well, France just has to use Twitch instead of Dailymorion that's right?
Watily! ♥
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
February 14 2014 20:49 GMT
#29
Seriously Blizzard ? What's wrong with a French stream ? The french structures are making a lot of events (Iron squid, Dailymotion cup, Numericable Cup ...) and you just say : "Hello French people/structures, don't care about you, Bye" just because you have some kind of agreement with Twitch ?

So people who love French casters and/or don't understand other languages can't really enjoy WCS ... Well it seems legit now that it is said like this.

Bouuh blizzard ... bouhhh

#WCSenFrancais !
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
February 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#30
On February 15 2014 05:16 PengWin_SC wrote:
This post is a little bit misleading as it doesn't mention what the dispute is in the first place, so allow me to explain for those who don't know. If any part of this is wrong, please feel free to correct me:

The most popular french streams, those interested in covering this event, are all users of the streaming platform Dailymotion. Blizzard has an exclucivity agreement (and has since the beginning of 2013 if I remember correctly) with Twitch. This isn't a matter of someone trying to fuck over the French scene, this is purely and simply the French streams not agreeing to use Twitch for whatever reason (maybe they're sponsored by Dailymotion or something, I don't know).

As long as the French streams continue to broadcast only on Dailymotion, or as long as the WCS-Twitch partnership exists, there simply won't be French scenes. It's very unfortunate, but perfectly understandable from Blizzard's perspective.

Thank you Pengwin, that clears it up a little. I hope a deal can be made, would be a shame for our frenchies if there wasn't a stream for them
Get off my lawn, young punks
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
February 14 2014 20:54 GMT
#31
Couldn't the French streams just use Twitch for WCS and then Dailymotion for whatever else they want?
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33449 Posts
February 14 2014 20:57 GMT
#32
so is it 100% due to the dailymotion/twitch conflict or what
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 20:58 GMT
#33
On February 15 2014 05:54 AWalker9 wrote:
Couldn't the French streams just use Twitch for WCS and then Dailymotion for whatever else they want?

Sure, but Dailymotion is much better than Twitch in France for viewers. You pretty much never have lag issues if you have a good connection.
Cartman_
Profile Joined July 2012
119 Posts
February 14 2014 21:00 GMT
#34
On February 15 2014 05:54 AWalker9 wrote:
Couldn't the French streams just use Twitch for WCS and then Dailymotion for whatever else they want?


They all use Dailymotion for a reason don't you think ? Dailymotion is a big sponsor of Millenium for example ...
It's like you're saying : "Bomber should drink energy drink Monster ... ".

Plus, just picture the scene... French casters speaking and during the stream (on Twitch) they all have Dailymotion on their shirts .... I recognize that it would be fun, but you see the point ... you can't really turn your back on big sponsors...
| SK Telecom T1 | --- | Bisu & BoxeR Forever, FanTaSy, INnoVation, Dark, soO, Dream <3 |
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 14 2014 21:02 GMT
#35
On February 15 2014 05:57 Waxangel wrote:
so is it 100% due to the dailymotion/twitch conflict or what

Apparently it's not.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
PengWin_SC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Switzerland433 Posts
February 14 2014 21:04 GMT
#36
On February 15 2014 05:57 Waxangel wrote:
so is it 100% due to the dailymotion/twitch conflict or what


Apparently not, but I feel like if they're asking people to support something while they're pretty much condemning ESL with their language they should at least tell us what the issue is.
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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
February 14 2014 21:05 GMT
#37
On February 15 2014 06:04 PengWin_SC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:57 Waxangel wrote:
so is it 100% due to the dailymotion/twitch conflict or what


Apparently not, but I feel like if they're asking people to support something while they're pretty much condemning ESL with their language they should at least tell us what the issue is.

I'm kinda confused right now. What EXACTLY is the issue now? o_O
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 14 2014 21:07 GMT
#38
On February 15 2014 05:54 AWalker9 wrote:
Couldn't the French streams just use Twitch for WCS and then Dailymotion for whatever else they want?

There is already problem if you are only allowed to use Twitch.....
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
February 14 2014 21:11 GMT
#39
All hail the Frenchies. May ESL have a change of heart.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
February 14 2014 21:11 GMT
#40
On February 15 2014 05:54 AWalker9 wrote:
Couldn't the French streams just use Twitch for WCS and then Dailymotion for whatever else they want?

it's a webTV, they run 24/7 (planning rest is restreams) they can't just tell people to switch just for WCS
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
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