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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:11 miniskirt wrote: it's a webTV, they run 24/7 (planning rest is restreams) they can't just tell people to switch just for WCS Well if they so desperatly want to broadcast WCS...? | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Foudzing
France181 Posts
Millenium streamed IEM Sao Paulo ( for their LoL team) on twitch one month ago. So what's the problem why not do the same for WCS EU??? | ||
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JahVidi
France8 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:20 Foudzing wrote: Just stream on the fking twitch omg. Millenium streamed IEM Sao Paulo ( for their LoL team) on twitch one month ago. So what's the problem why not do the same for WCS EU??? Because the problem is not Dailymotion or Twitch. This is just a supposition. At this time, only ESL knows why French structure can't stream WCS. | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:20 Foudzing wrote:Just stream on the fking twitch omg. this isn't the issue the two largest audience for WCS are germans and french germans have their own stream cause they are english literate and they're going to keep watching esl stream anyway (mainly) give the french a stream and ESL loses 40% of their audience | ||
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Foudzing
France181 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:26 miniskirt wrote: this isn't the issue the two largest audience for WCS are germans and french germans have their own stream cause they are english literate and they're going to keep watching esl stream anyway (mainly) give the french a stream and ESL loses 40% of their audience Ok so why try to negociate with ESL... You should ask blizzrad instead. And I think your thinking is actually wrong. Let's assume German are English speakers and french not (which is obviously not true at all): No german stream Germans don't care and go on English stream. ESL happy ESL moar money. No french stream French are sad and don't watch WCS Changes nothing for ESL so far. | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:30 Foudzing wrote: Ok so why try to negociate with ESL... You should ask blizzrad instead. they seem to have did so the past year on numerous occasion, but blizz seem to not step in | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:26 miniskirt wrote: this isn't the issue the two largest audience for WCS are germans and french germans have their own stream cause they are english literate and they're going to keep watching esl stream anyway (mainly) give the french a stream and ESL loses 40% of their audience Then maybe they should "buy" license from ESL to stream WCS. Like how TV channels work. | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:34 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Then maybe they should "buy" license from ESL to stream WCS. Like how TV channels work. blizzard owns WCS, not esl :/ | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Yes I know that. We don't know what kind of deal ESL and Blizzard have. | ||
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
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Maniak_
France305 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:30 Foudzing wrote: Let's assume German are English speakers and french not (which is obviously not true at all): No german stream Germans don't care and go on English stream. ESL happy ESL moar money. No french stream French are sad and don't watch WCS Changes nothing for ESL so far. And since many of them understand english, they would simply watch the english stream -> more viewers for ESL. For those who can't understand english or would refuse to watch the official stream for whatever reason, too bad for them. And those who can't bear watching (and hearing) a french stream, or who prefer english casts, are not affected at all. This does affect *some* french viewers, and I guess it'd be nice if they had a french stream, but it should not be presented as a general case for *all* french viewers. | ||
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
On February 15 2014 05:16 PengWin_SC wrote: This post is a little bit misleading as it doesn't mention what the dispute is in the first place, so allow me to explain for those who don't know. If any part of this is wrong, please feel free to correct me: The most popular french streams, those interested in covering this event, are all users of the streaming platform Dailymotion. Blizzard has an exclucivity agreement (and has since the beginning of 2013 if I remember correctly) with Twitch. This isn't a matter of someone trying to fuck over the French scene, this is purely and simply the French streams not agreeing to use Twitch for whatever reason (maybe they're sponsored by Dailymotion or something, I don't know). As long as the French streams continue to broadcast only on Dailymotion, or as long as the WCS-Twitch partnership exists, there simply won't be French scenes. It's very unfortunate, but perfectly understandable from Blizzard's perspective. Kind of funny that the OP doesn't mention anything about this at all... | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:49 Penguinator wrote: Kind of funny that the OP doesn't mention anything about this at all... on reddit Kerri: We already streamed on twitch before in a similar case, this is clearly not the issue here. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:56 Makro wrote: if it's not about dailymotion then why would they ban the french stream ? Why would ESL accept to give away for free a significant (?) part of its viewer and revenue ? | ||
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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
Asking people to share this post and not even commenting on the problem makes you look very bad. I have no idea if ESL has a reasonable course here but it certainly looks that way if you can't even elaborate on the problem. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
This is pure speculation here. But ESL might have wanted the revenues generated from French streams, while the French organizers wanted to keep the revenue, since they were the ones providing the service. Since French organizers wouldn't give up the rights to the revenues, ESL denied them? I repeat, this is pure speculation on the issue. If it wasn't a streaming platform issue, that is. | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
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ppp
174 Posts
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