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On February 03 2014 05:40 Holyflare wrote: /in GOTTA GET DAT BELT THO You missed me  | ||
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On February 07 2014 15:31 yamato77 wrote: Also, that's an easy way to get yourself some confirmed town. that's why you put scum in the nominations if you are scum........ | ||
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On February 08 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Surprise surprise. I don't even think I need role PMs anymore at this point, I can just assume. I'd like to make it known ahead of time (to those of you who weren't on voice last night) I'm not even going to attempt to read Slam. You guys can do it, and I'll sheep along. Now, time to gather some feels. On February 07 2014 20:40 marvellosity wrote: I'm thinking I'm going to lynch you if you even say that word CALLING YOU OUT | ||
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Corazon This guy! I always think he's mafia. In like every game I play with him. After the Titanic II fiasco I think I've read enough of his games and got a good enough grasp of his posting style to know when he is town or not. Firstly, Cora's reactions as scum are "worries", "defences" and "tunnel", "omgus butthurt", when he is town he can display 2 responses. If he is getting focused on it will be "butthurt", "heavy defences" and "questioning suspicions" if he is not getting focused on it is "questioning suspicions", "making cases". So in order to differentiate between the two forms of play you have to determine two things: 1. Is he under pressure? 2. Are suspicions about players being questioned or is he just telling us his concerns/nothingness? First and foremost here are some filters for you to peruse to get a feel of what I am talking about: A Quiet Game of Mini Mafia - Scum Newbie Mini Mafia XXXIII - Scum This Town Aint Big Enough Mafia - Town A Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - Town Titanic II - Town Back to the Basics - Town Now, with regards to this game, I have NEVER (in all his database games (and I did check them ALL)) seen cora start by calling himself vanilla town (there is one time where he states he's town for the bajillionth time in bluelightz though). So when I see someone post something like: On February 08 2014 09:49 Corazon wrote: when they have never done that in the games that I have seen them play (and the majority are town games) then I think to myself, "what has changed in his mentality where he thinks he should post this?"Hey guys, I'm Vanilla Town. Just letting you all know so that when you doubt my alignment, I can reference this post. Thank you. So, based on that I was red flagged to his playstyle and decided to look at him closer on my read through and lo and behold his posting style aligned more and more to a Corazon. It was initially pointed out by Yamato here: + Show Spoiler [+++Yamato] + On February 08 2014 19:01 yamato77 wrote: RE: Cora Didn't care for this bit: Shoots down Oats for Oats' dumb "who is scum?" question, then Turns around and does the same stupid thing. I, unlike you, give him no townie points for the Slam questions because it was a silly thing to ask anyway. but this is quintessential scum play. He calls out someone for something that he is also guilty of. Check this from a quiet game of mini mafia (check links above to see situation (it's right at the start) where he is scum: On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote: I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II. He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. On January 07 2014 11:48 Corazon wrote: @Iamp It's nonsensical because you suggested right off the bat that you should lynch me. How is that sensical? he says he is "worried about things" and portrays his worries onto people even though he is randomly attacking people in that game too. Now, this wouldn't be alignment indicative if it wasn't for his major differences of approach between alignments. Here is a post in a similar light from Back to the Basics: On November 21 2013 00:44 Corazon wrote: Alright I'm going to respond to the general criticism on me, the brunt of it being in Mocsta's case and then everyone else just rewording it. First of all, most of Mocsta's filter analysis on me said that I had problems reading and that I was scummy. It's really shit casework from Mocsta because he's played multiple times with me and should know that I had a reading problem in general, whether I'm town or scum. The rest of his case is his confirmation bias and calling sciberia my scummate. Lol. I'm really surprised and disappointed that I got all the flak for the conversation between sciberia and I. In my opinion his actions were way more scummy and non-conclusive then mine and I believe that it is really hypocritical of everyone to attack me and simply ignore him. On Aqua: I really agree with a lot of the points raised up against him. What troubles me the most is that he basically attacked Ream for sticking up for me and starting attacking Ream when it looked like my lynch wasn't going to go down. It felt like he was trying too hard to keep the lynch on me and that is what troubles me. On others: I'm going to reread the thread but I already do not like the fact that sciberia and LoneMeow insist on keeping the conversation on me when the talk is about Aquanim. It's just making the town less focused and less able to discuss a good lynch candidate if they continue to ramble on about me. In my opinion, the first 24 hours should be allowed to free-flow and not have focused discussion (on one person) and the last 24 should be focus on the 2-3 wagons that pop up. I'm going to reread Aqua and then reread the rest of the thread (pgs 10-13). When cora is questioned or highlighted that he is scum (but is town), he reacts in games by defending himself heavily (read titanic, b2b, etc etc etc.) but ALSO throws in points about everyone else in the game while defending himself heavily so as to try and determine other people's alignments while defending. However, when he is scum (in a quiet game) his posts get a lot shorter, randomly throw suspicion on a person (in quiet game it was yamato) and then states that he's doing scum hunting with what was available and showed it by attacking (yamato in that case). This is EXACTLY what has happened in this game, he defends himself but doesn't try and determine anyone's alignments. He makes a bigger post that just says people are wrong and defends himself but doesn't point to anything further and then the rest of his posts are all short, accusatory posts at palmar while defending geript. On February 09 2014 08:08 Corazon wrote: I'm not going to say anything about Geript here but your statement is 100% wrong. Geript is like this in every situation. How does cora know so vehemently that the rage was indeed not faked? To be 100% wrong is pretty confident and he seems so sure of an unflipped player that at the start he was questioning for not scum hunting that it seemed very odd to point this out at the time. He continues his posts with no theme to scum hunting but instead random accusatory posts (like his scum games) on Palmar: On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote: We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. He has no input in the rest of the game and when called out by grack on his palmar stance he replies: On February 09 2014 11:49 Corazon wrote: Not yet. I'll give Palmar some more time to do something useful. He continues the tunnel: On February 10 2014 02:14 Corazon wrote: To be honest, I just want to survive to D2 so I can do analysis on the D1 voting patterns and have better reads. I'm not going to get myself worked up to defend myself because you guys won't listen to me anyways. ##Vote: Palmar Come on guys. Read the game. After all the Palmar suspicion and telling us to vote for him he just... completely drops that entire read and tells us to read the game but then votes someone for doing the exact same thing he is doing??? On February 10 2014 02:22 Corazon wrote: Jk this is more right than the Palmar lynch. ##unvote ##Vote: Koshi A lot of things happened in the game. Many things were said but the way he picks and chooses responses is increasingly odd and he seems so focused on Palmar (tunnel = +++scum) rather than anything else that I can only see this coming form a scum cora. ##Vote Corazon Can answer questions briefly, only had time to write this much sorry babez xxxxxxx <3 | ||
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On February 10 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote: I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it This is how cora plays scum based on research (in the above post). | ||
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On February 10 2014 08:49 Koshi wrote: Well yeah. Not enough people here. Nobody leading stuff. This is a townlynch. One of marv / rayn is going to be scum most likely. or both. why aren't you here? How about some elaboration? Your vote is still on cora after saying this. | ||
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On February 10 2014 06:10 Koshi wrote: Well I can vote Cora. But let it be known that I supported a VA lynch way more. For the belt. ##unvote ##vote: Cora On February 10 2014 08:49 Koshi wrote: Well yeah. Not enough people here. Nobody leading stuff. This is a townlynch. One of marv / rayn is going to be scum most likely. or both. why aren't you here? Put's downa vote on cora. Says the wagon IS A town lynch while STILL having his vote on cora all along. Like what's the point of this? His initial vote on cora doesn't even say WHY he is lynching cora. It just says he's voting for him but he still wants to lynch VA. After being called out on it he says it was bs to trick people? wut? On February 10 2014 06:24 Palmar wrote: Btw Cora's filter was shorter than expected. This feels a bit off, but I'm just going to vote him anyway. Let's just assume mafia is not defending each other ##Unvote ##Vote: Corazon Read my filter for the reasons, I had already pointed some stuff about him out. I also hated his early "get off the hook" post, and tbh, fuck him for wanting to kill me. While you may have listed 1000000000 reasons for cora being mafia in your filter, why did you NOT put a vote down until after my case? In fact, if all your reasons are before my case then my case is the only convincing factor for you to lynch him. I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town. You display hesitance that all of your reads up to that point are head scratching from mafia cora but then you also use all of those reasons that you previously mentioned to then vote him? Which is is it? Is he mafia because of them or town because of them? Why even qualify your read with a "this feels off" and then vote him anyway? On February 10 2014 04:04 VayneAuthority wrote: ##vote: Corazon only "real" lynch i like i guess before real full blown steam on cora was ahead, this vote went down ^^^^^ after wagon of justice the below happens On February 10 2014 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote: ##unvote ##vote: oatsmaster shenanigans I don't even know what's in his mind about cora or oats.... just shenanigans after saying cora was the only one he liked the look of lynching? Are all these people scum or what? | ||
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On February 10 2014 09:31 yamato77 wrote: I'll be back later when I don't want to scream at this thread. "i take all the credit for calling him mafia" Flips town "I hate the thread" ................? | ||
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Click me! Palmar is there any reason you appear right at the deadline instead of before it just to insult cora? | ||
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On February 10 2014 09:38 Grackaroni wrote: Did cora get killed in titanic 2? I didn't pay much attention that game lol. He called everyone that put suspicion on him (me, dp etc) scum and hard defended himself all game (what pretty much all of my post was about) which you should have read and KNOWN about and then rage shot me even though I was trying to solve the game. | ||
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this game was so so far removed from B2B and titanic cora.... | ||
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