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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#28
/confirm
nice a game where i prob dont have to do much =)
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 20 2014 23:10 GMT
#207
Hello gentlemen.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 00:29 GMT
#220
I'm trying to figure that out too. My plan as of now is to wait for some scummer to give themselves away in their first post.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 17:05 GMT
#368
@foolishness let's chat a bit. What's indicative of scum mentality in that WoS post you quoted? I don't really see it.

@marv besides foolishness whoelse do you think it's worth looking into?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 17:19 GMT
#374
I don't have a problem with kita. He was one of the first people to try to get the thread rolling and I agree with his recent comment on gonzaw's post. Prom and gonzaw are the ones giving me weird vibes so far, maybe foolishness, but I need more from him before I can tell.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 17:27 GMT
#381
Most of his interactions seem a bit fake and force to me. It looks like he is doing stuff because he is supposed to be doing that stuff as town, but it doesn't look natural. I.E. that first post, than the whole hapa interaction, seems like he was fishing for it for no real reason other than to look ok. The comment about you knowing him so well after you said he looks like he is bullshitting isn't sitting so well either.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#384
I believe I just answered that in my previous post.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 19:44 GMT
#405
I actually don't have a problem with prom/wos interaction in particular, that first post and fishing for hapa's comment on it is what fells weird and scripted to me. I'd like to hear from hapa if he thinks it felt fake too.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 19:55 GMT
#408
On January 22 2014 04:47 austinmcc wrote:
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On January 22 2014 04:44 sandroba wrote:
I actually don't have a problem with prom/wos interaction in particular, that first post and fishing for hapa's comment on it is what fells weird and scripted to me. I'd like to hear from hapa if he thinks it felt fake too.
So you think WoS shows some sort of curiousity or curious question, especially concerning you, around that time?

Beyond dat, any gold mined from entrance posts?

He doesn't care about me at that time, as there is no reason to. The points he raises about prom's post later pretty much are the same thoughts I had when I read it, so I don't think he merits my attention so far.
Nothing besides prom and maaaybe gonzaw.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 20:51 GMT
#421
I clearly didn't do what he said I did, so I it was supposed to be intrepeted as a random vote, I figure. It's a bit of a strech to think that is the way he thinks and that he was consistent with it regarding your post.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#422
That was @gonzaw if it wasn't clear.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 22 2014 22:15 GMT
#768
Sup. I'm 95% convinced prom is scum. I could go on and explain my absence etc, but I won't. Let's talk about important things instead.
Getting past the openning post that has already been discussed, his come back post with the kita vote does not make sense for town prom:
On January 23 2014 00:00 Promethelax wrote:
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On January 22 2014 01:50 kitaman27 wrote:
How much time did you spend looking into Foolishness's history gonzaw? Additionally, what is the point of posting a guide on how to read Foolishness? If you point out his scum qualities before he has any actual posts, do you expect him to read your guide and then get caught anyways? Do you think this was an efficient use of your town as a player who hasn't even read the thread?

When I think of a player that gets off to a trolly start as town, Foolishness is one of the first people to come to mind so I disagree with your assessment based on the posts that you have cherry picked.

I'm still content with my vote on him however based on activity.


This kind of post is why I feel all hinky about you Kita.

Rest of the thread: this post adds nothing to the discussion, doesn't do anything but castigate Gonzaw (a player who, based on length of post alone looks townie) and tries to throw doubt everywhere. It reminds me of a Kita scum game with WBG where the two of them got in the thread every time a lylch they didn't like was discussed to talk shit about the lynch by attacking the guy who was leading said lynch. Can anyone remember said game? Either way, that is with or without that meta, this rings of scum to me enough that I am comfortable laying down a
##Vote:Kitaman


This is clearly a total misconception of what kita is trying to acomplish in his post which was question gonzaw in his motives when making an useless post about foolishness early meta and move the thread off an issue he deemed unimportant at the time. Not only that, the reason he he votes for him is because it "reminds him of a game in which he did something simillar" and was scum. Not only this already smells of total bullshit, this already makes sense from the backward logic scum normally has of first deciding who to vote for and later trying to justify it, twisting it to suit their needs. If you are not convinced take a look at how prom presents his vote in the recent pyp game as town:
On December 04 2013 17:36 Promethelax wrote:
Johnnylaw

Not even a name I recognize. Given that he doesn't even have a mafia database entry I'll assume he is new.. As always anyone who knows anything about the individual who can add anything metawise would be greatly appreciated.

According to an old Gonzaw heuristic I'd have to call JL scum, he stopped posting while getting boozed up. You can't trust a dude who stops posting while his guard is down.

Based on his early posts I'll assume Johnnylaw is a LoL convert brought over by Wave. Dude knows his LoL (and I don't, so a lot of his early posts are not in a language I speak).

DINGDINGDING we have a winner folks
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On December 01 2013 11:18 JonnyLaw wrote:
On December 01 2013 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but jcarl is scum so... i dont't give a fuck


This makes no sense. There's not a lot of pressure on you because you're flipping it on everyone else. Just fucking calm down, make your arguments and wait while we gain more information as people post, vote and draft. I get that you're making people talk and that will help us down the line but for now we have little information and ten pages of personal attacks and shit posting is clogging up the whole fucking thread.

Get your shit together or I'm saying you are scum or at the least, not helping the town actively.


The series of personal attacks and shit posting for ten pages gave me nothing yet. I'll post again after I see what scum ban.


Holy double donkey dicks. Would lynch off of this post.
1. threat
2. it was a weak threat
3 that last sentence. You know what ten pages of shitposting gives a townie? I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with bum lead.
4. the whole thing is a soft grab for town points, its a 'ooh but bad thread atmosphere is bad' post with out doing anything to fix what it complains about. Scum love to agree with something being anti town while doing nothing to prevent it.

So far this post is the scummiest thing I've read in this thread. Would lynch.

This post is pretty awful to (its directed at bum)
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On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:
Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler +
At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player


This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand.

Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is.


"I don't understand, therefore you are scum" = scummy
"I don't understand, I would like to understand" = townie
which is the above? Oh yes, the former. Johnnylaw is not making new points of his own, is arguing for and against nothings and keeps grabbing at town points while attacking town favoured plans. Note that he argues with the usefulness of the plan but does not provide a better plan, he is tearing down not bringing up.

Corollary to the Chezinu rule, the kushmasta rule.
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On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
Okay, I was out all day yesterday. Two hours later I've finally caught up in the thread.

gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game.

Soniv - fine for now. Looks to be making an effort to push the game towards a goal.

kushmasta - Like really? This guy comes into the thread and starts calling people scum in one liners and generally shitting the place up. He replaced OWB who completely shut down and hated playing scum in NMM L. The random tooscummytobescum post irritates me as well.

The rest have longer filters and I need to evaluate them. Just reading through the last 20 pages hasn't left me with other strong feelings yet.

I'll be checking filters and around for a while.

twenty pages of reading twenty four hours after his last thread appearance and the only kinda scummy thing he picks up on is that kush is a weird ass dude. I could have told you that for free.
He also says that gtsrs is playing the game. Which is not a conclusion. Everyone can see that gt is busy/lazy/scum JL doesn't provide any insight, he says he didn't like something and follows it with nothing until VE brings it up again at which time JL +1s like a champ.
He does these quick summaries of people which I can't stand, many of you know my stance on list posts without content and JL has many posts which are just one continuous contentless list. A bit of an excuse since Sandro asked him to look at those particular filters but in reality he said nothing about the four players.

Conclusion rating 4.5

my qualms with a JL lynch. The kid may be so new he doesn't see what he is doing and is unsure of how to contribute in a large game, lord knows its hard. He could be throwing around dog crap posts because he simply doesn't know how to make better posts, he seems relativly involved in the thread and has intereacted with many players by name and by idea. For now he looks like my first pressure for day two but I am not yet confidant I will want to lynch him. If I had to guess most likely scum out of the players I have filtered so far I'd take JL no questions asked.

You could go on and compare both filters from these games and notice how different his tone and assertiviness are a lot different this game in a mafia oriented way. In this game his play is totally reactive and comes from a defensive position, where in the game he was town, even replacing in a slot that had a fair bit of suspicion on it he promoted discussion and basically took over the game.
The man is scum.
##vote: promthelax
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 22 2014 22:23 GMT
#776
What more do I need to say? The man is scum. I could go on and talk about other people that might be scum, but I'd rather we save it for after we lynched the scum that's certain.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 22 2014 22:24 GMT
#778
On January 23 2014 07:20 gonzaw wrote:
So sandro, would you be okay if we lynch you, and if you flip town follow your dreams and lynch Prome on D2?

Why would I be okay with that? No. Let's lynch prom then we move on to lynch other people that might be scum insteas of lynching town.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 22 2014 22:26 GMT
#781
On January 23 2014 07:23 gonzaw wrote:
Nice of you to tell us to go read his entire filter from another game 30 minutes before the day ends sandro.

It's shit like this I do not tolerate and would be willing to policy lynch you right now. Hell I think I might try and just do that, but have to read that Prome filter first (goddamed this Man U - Sunderland match never ends).

I'm sorry about that man, I came back home just in the nick of time so i could catch up and try to find a good lynch. From what I see there is plenty of people here so we can make it happen so not all is lost.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
January 22 2014 22:31 GMT
#789
On January 23 2014 07:26 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 07:23 sandroba wrote:
What more do I need to say? The man is scum. I could go on and talk about other people that might be scum, but I'd rather we save it for after we lynched the scum that's certain.
His filters are markedly different from the two games, yes. But that's just a single game and he replaced into PYP LOL but didn't here. I feel the exact same way about the difference, but I discount that as solid evidence more than you seem to.

You basically just chopped out a single thing that Prome has done this game, pasted it next to a thing from one past game, went NINETY FIVE PERCENT SCUM.

All while, at least to me, you two are the leading candidates for lynch. Talking about someone else who might be scum, or talking about why Prome is scum beyond his kita vote + comparison to a game he replaced into, might go a ways towards making people more convinced on Prome or less convinced on you.

I already had my suspicions from the very first post and early thread behavior (which I explained previously) and was waiting to see how he would post after more info was on the table to be sure.
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