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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 09:24:34
September 19 2013 16:41 GMT
#1
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Hello everyone, 2 weeks have passed and thus it is time for yet another aligulac write-up. Lots of results from tournaments like Dreamhack, GSTL, ATC, SC2L etc.

Now before we get into this, remember that a difference of around 250 or less means that there is no statistically significant difference between two players, but who am I kidding, you just want to rage and yell at our stats, so here we go.

The list:
  1. kr INnoVation 2022 (+11: WCS KR, IEM NY Qualifiers, ATC, SC2L, GSTL, Dreamhack)
  2. kr Polt 1991 (+20: IEM NY Qualifiers)
  3. kr TaeJa 1962 (+62: IEM NY Qualifiers, SC2L, Dreamhack )
  4. kr HyuN 1891 (+16: IEM NY Qualifiers, go4sc2, ATC, Dreamhack)
  5. kr sOs 1885 (+27: IEM NY Qualifiers, Dreamhack)
  6. kr San 1861 (+62: IEM NY Qualifiers, go4sc2, Fragbite Qualifiers, ESET Qualifiers ATC)
  7. kr Life 1850 (-34: IEM NY Qualifiers, Dreamhack, GSTL)
  8. kr HerO 1847 (+31: IEM NY Qualifiers, Dreamhack, SC2L)
  9. kr MMA 1838 (+80: IEM NY Qualifiers, SC2L, GSTL, ATC, Dreamhack, WCS EU, ESET Qualifiers)
  10. kr Bomber 1819 (-73: GSTL, WCS KR)

A few months ago, it seemed clear that INnoVation had one MU that was far better than the other, having fantastic TvZ, raping zergs left and right. His TvT was also very good, taking advantage of Hellbats and their utillity. However, while his TvT is not as good as it used to be, his TvP has really taken off, going 18-3 in TvP the last 2 weeks, losing only to CranK and a single map to Pigbaby. Currently holding the record for highest vZ peak, he is also number 4 on the vP list, behind Polt, Stephano and MKP. However, his TvT is his big achilles heel, losing to players like Taeja, SuperNova, Heart and Ryung in the last 2 weeks, his TvT is around 200 and 300 points behind his TvP and TvZ.
Riding on the legend of the Taeja Summer, Team Liquid's Taeja adds 62 points to his rating, solidifying his 3rd place and gaining on both INnoVation and Polt. I personally think that Taeja might be the most complete Terran player currently, and can't wait to see how he does at Blizzcon. Taeja showed immaculate play at Dreamhack and the SC2L final and will hopefully keep climbing and threaten the dominance of INnoVation on our list.
In the other end of the top 10, HerO and MMA showed strong performances, gaining 31 and 80 points respectively. Hopefully this is the beginning of the return of MMA, let's see if he can qualifiy for WCS S3 finals and Blizzcon, if so, the Son of Boxer might climb even higher.
The protosses sOs and San both put on a strong showing the past 2 weeks, with San going 33-10 vs. a good mix of foreigners and top Koreans like Soulkey, Squirtle, HerO, soO and sC.
Finally we have yet another fall for Startale's Life, losing matches in GSTL, IEM Qualifiers etc. cost the Startale zerg 34 points.

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Taeja applauds himself, because he is a boss.


The foreigner list:
  1. es LucifroN 1784 (-12: Raidcall EES, WCS EU)
  2. tw Sen 1753 (+1: NSL, Starswar)
  3. se NaNiwa 1733 (No matches)
  4. cn Jim 1725 (+0: ATC Qualifiers, NSL, Starswar, ATC)
  5. pl Nerchio 1700 (-15: Zotac, go4sc2, ATC, Raidcall EES, SC2L, WCS EU, Dreamhack)
  6. ca Scarlett 1690 (No matches)
  7. es VortiX 1688 (+20: WCS EU, Raidcall EES, ATC)
  8. no Snute 1668 (+0: Millenium Cup, SC2L, Dreamhack)
  9. ru Happy 1662 (-49: ATC, Zotac)
  10. de HeRoMaRinE 1586 (+26: Raidcall EES, Fragbite Qualifiers, ESET Qualifiers)

The top 5 of the foreigner list is still unchanged, however LucifroN have been on a steady downfall for the last 5 periods, with Sen finally playing more than just TeSL and WCS AM, and Jim showing good performance in both the WCS system and various individual and teamleagues, it seems only a matter of time before the Spaniard loses his first place. Alliance's (EG's) NaNiwa has had no matches the last 2 weeks, but we expect to see how his current form is at the upcoming IEM. Happy falls quite a few points, while VortiX gains 20 points, moving him, Snute and Scarlett past Happy. Finally HeRoMaRinE makes a grand entrance, with a few good online results these past 2 weeks.

This week I want to welcome our latest additions to the staff team, slowbacontron, swz, Tempest and Hotspur. With a growing number of match submitters and coders, it becomes easier to maintain the Database and correct inconsistensies etc.
Also shoutouts to the ever hardworking team of match submitters: kiekaboe, MasterOfPuppets, Shellshock, PhoenixVoid and Sabre.

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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 19 2013 16:43 GMT
#2
hb grovbolle.

excited for the update
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 19 2013 16:48 GMT
#3
HB and good thread.
Strange to see Lucifron still at the top of the foreigner list, since his results as of late have been very lackluster.

Also Innovation/Polt/TaeJa too OP.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
September 19 2013 16:48 GMT
#4
Happy Birthday and thanks for all the good work. Interesting that Life has, despite his poor results, still the highest ZvT rating, shows how incredible it used to be.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 19 2013 16:49 GMT
#5
On September 20 2013 01:48 vult wrote:
HB and good thread.
Strange to see Lucifron still at the top of the foreigner list, since his results as of late have been very lackluster.

Also Innovation/Polt/TaeJa too OP.

The Terran Triumvirate. We only need to have Innovation vs Polt matches now to build an 2011-esque system :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 19 2013 16:51 GMT
#6
Looks promising !
RIP MKP
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
September 19 2013 17:35 GMT
#7
On September 20 2013 01:48 vult wrote:
HB and good thread.
Strange to see Lucifron still at the top of the foreigner list, since his results as of late have been very lackluster.

Also Innovation/Polt/TaeJa too OP.


He basically loses, but not that much, and not to that bad opponents, plus mainly in online stuff, which counts for less.

On September 20 2013 01:48 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Happy Birthday and thanks for all the good work. Interesting that Life has, despite his poor results, still the highest ZvT rating, shows how incredible it used to be.

Yeah, he is still riding on his past prime in ZvT.

Also: HB = Happy birthday, it took me way to long to realize that, since it's not 20th here in Denmark yet, and I haven't really had time to think about it Thanks guys
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 19 2013 17:40 GMT
#8
Yay Heromarine breaking into the Top 10!!! :D
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 18:14:59
September 19 2013 18:07 GMT
#9
A few month ago hellbats were still in TvT and INnoVation destroyed in that match up. He didn't do as well as in his other match ups, but putting down the statement that he was seemingly a one trick pony is blatantly insulting towards him. He destroyed Zerg and looked untouchable - a lot more untouchable compared to now but thats because Zergs caught up and did learn how to properly play against his style.

While there was a period of time he was absolutely beasting through everything, he never was a one trick pony. He destroyed Rain, sOs and he didn't lose an offline TvP for about 4 month. I don't know what time you are talking about when you are saying he was a one trick pony, but I certainly cannot remember the time when he was. Being outstanding and floating a nearly 90% winrate in one match up, doesn't make you a one trick pony just because your TvP is 70%. In fact - its still brilliant.

To underline my point only his Terran vs Protoss:

March: 5-2 (72%) with an 3-0 over Rain
April: 5-4 (56%) wins over PartinG, Rain, lost to Rain/sOs#
May: 4-1 (80%) wins over sOs both HerO's and his only loss coming form Rain
June: 5-1 (83%) with 4-0 over sOs even
July: 9-3 (75%) also with wins over Rain and CJ_herO
August: 2-3 (40%) having lost to PartinG in WCG

August is the first month since march he has a negative record and thats on maps, in series he is 50%. INnoVation never was a one trick pony so while I am trying to not be butthurt and defensive here, I simply believe that is a very wrong statement.

30-14 in total which makes a 68,18% winrate. I sure wish I would be a one trick pony like that.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 19 2013 18:16 GMT
#10
Ah, Korean terrans dominating. All is well.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 19 2013 18:21 GMT
#11
On September 20 2013 03:07 NarutO wrote:
A few month ago hellbats were still in TvT and INnoVation destroyed in that match up. He didn't do as well as in his other match ups, but putting down the statement that he was seemingly a one trick pony is blatantly insulting towards him. He destroyed Zerg and looked untouchable - a lot more untouchable compared to now but thats because Zergs caught up and did learn how to properly play against his style.

While there was a period of time he was absolutely beasting through everything, he never was a one trick pony. He destroyed Rain, sOs and he didn't lose an offline TvP for about 4 month. I don't know what time you are talking about when you are saying he was a one trick pony, but I certainly cannot remember the time when he was. Being outstanding and floating a nearly 90% winrate in one match up, doesn't make you a one trick pony just because your TvP is 70%. In fact - its still brilliant.

To underline my point only his Terran vs Protoss:

March: 5-2 (72%) with an 3-0 over Rain
April: 5-4 (56%) wins over PartinG, Rain, lost to Rain/sOs#
May: 4-1 (80%) wins over sOs both HerO's and his only loss coming form Rain
June: 5-1 (83%) with 4-0 over sOs even
July: 9-3 (75%) also with wins over Rain and CJ_herO
August: 2-3 (40%) having lost to PartinG in WCG

August is the first month since march he has a negative record and thats on maps, in series he is 50%. INnoVation never was a one trick pony so while I am trying to not be butthurt and defensive here, I simply believe that is a very wrong statement.

30-14 in total which makes a 68,18% winrate. I sure wish I would be a one trick pony like that.

Did not Inno drop at least 2 games in march to Rain in GSL Ro32?
Also, what games did he EVER drop to sOs in PvT in HotS?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
September 19 2013 18:22 GMT
#12
On September 20 2013 03:07 NarutO wrote:
A few month ago hellbats were still in TvT and INnoVation destroyed in that match up. He didn't do as well as in his other match ups, but putting down the statement that he was seemingly a one trick pony is blatantly insulting towards him. He destroyed Zerg and looked untouchable - a lot more untouchable compared to now but thats because Zergs caught up and did learn how to properly play against his style.

While there was a period of time he was absolutely beasting through everything, he never was a one trick pony. He destroyed Rain, sOs and he didn't lose an offline TvP for about 4 month. I don't know what time you are talking about when you are saying he was a one trick pony, but I certainly cannot remember the time when he was. Being outstanding and floating a nearly 90% winrate in one match up, doesn't make you a one trick pony just because your TvP is 70%. In fact - its still brilliant.

To underline my point only his Terran vs Protoss:

March: 5-2 (72%) with an 3-0 over Rain
April: 5-4 (56%) wins over PartinG, Rain, lost to Rain/sOs#
May: 4-1 (80%) wins over sOs both HerO's and his only loss coming form Rain
June: 5-1 (83%) with 4-0 over sOs even
July: 9-3 (75%) also with wins over Rain and CJ_herO
August: 2-3 (40%) having lost to PartinG in WCG

August is the first month since march he has a negative record and thats on maps, in series he is 50%. INnoVation never was a one trick pony so while I am trying to not be butthurt and defensive here, I simply believe that is a very wrong statement.

30-14 in total which makes a 68,18% winrate. I sure wish I would be a one trick pony like that.

Obviously he is the greatest Terran in a long time, I meant him no disrespect, just trying to underline that he got famous for raping zerg players left and right, and now he is doing the same to a lot of protosses. So while I do understand what you mean, it is really just a matter of me formulating myself in a bad way, I'll edit it

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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 19 2013 18:24 GMT
#13
On September 20 2013 03:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 03:07 NarutO wrote:
A few month ago hellbats were still in TvT and INnoVation destroyed in that match up. He didn't do as well as in his other match ups, but putting down the statement that he was seemingly a one trick pony is blatantly insulting towards him. He destroyed Zerg and looked untouchable - a lot more untouchable compared to now but thats because Zergs caught up and did learn how to properly play against his style.

While there was a period of time he was absolutely beasting through everything, he never was a one trick pony. He destroyed Rain, sOs and he didn't lose an offline TvP for about 4 month. I don't know what time you are talking about when you are saying he was a one trick pony, but I certainly cannot remember the time when he was. Being outstanding and floating a nearly 90% winrate in one match up, doesn't make you a one trick pony just because your TvP is 70%. In fact - its still brilliant.

To underline my point only his Terran vs Protoss:

March: 5-2 (72%) with an 3-0 over Rain
April: 5-4 (56%) wins over PartinG, Rain, lost to Rain/sOs#
May: 4-1 (80%) wins over sOs both HerO's and his only loss coming form Rain
June: 5-1 (83%) with 4-0 over sOs even
July: 9-3 (75%) also with wins over Rain and CJ_herO
August: 2-3 (40%) having lost to PartinG in WCG

August is the first month since march he has a negative record and thats on maps, in series he is 50%. INnoVation never was a one trick pony so while I am trying to not be butthurt and defensive here, I simply believe that is a very wrong statement.

30-14 in total which makes a 68,18% winrate. I sure wish I would be a one trick pony like that.

Did not Inno drop at least 2 games in march to Rain in GSL Ro32?
Also, what games did he EVER drop to sOs in PvT in HotS?


INnoVation lost to sOs at Asian Indoors Masters 1-2. He won against Rain 3-0 in march, lost against Rain 1-2 in April. The games in April were GSL Code S Group F.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 18:25:50
September 19 2013 18:25 GMT
#14
On September 20 2013 03:22 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 03:07 NarutO wrote:
A few month ago hellbats were still in TvT and INnoVation destroyed in that match up. He didn't do as well as in his other match ups, but putting down the statement that he was seemingly a one trick pony is blatantly insulting towards him. He destroyed Zerg and looked untouchable - a lot more untouchable compared to now but thats because Zergs caught up and did learn how to properly play against his style.

While there was a period of time he was absolutely beasting through everything, he never was a one trick pony. He destroyed Rain, sOs and he didn't lose an offline TvP for about 4 month. I don't know what time you are talking about when you are saying he was a one trick pony, but I certainly cannot remember the time when he was. Being outstanding and floating a nearly 90% winrate in one match up, doesn't make you a one trick pony just because your TvP is 70%. In fact - its still brilliant.

To underline my point only his Terran vs Protoss:

March: 5-2 (72%) with an 3-0 over Rain
April: 5-4 (56%) wins over PartinG, Rain, lost to Rain/sOs#
May: 4-1 (80%) wins over sOs both HerO's and his only loss coming form Rain
June: 5-1 (83%) with 4-0 over sOs even
July: 9-3 (75%) also with wins over Rain and CJ_herO
August: 2-3 (40%) having lost to PartinG in WCG

August is the first month since march he has a negative record and thats on maps, in series he is 50%. INnoVation never was a one trick pony so while I am trying to not be butthurt and defensive here, I simply believe that is a very wrong statement.

30-14 in total which makes a 68,18% winrate. I sure wish I would be a one trick pony like that.

Obviously he is the greatest Terran in a long time, I meant him no disrespect, just trying to underline that he got famous for raping zerg players left and right, and now he is doing the same to a lot of protosses. So while I do understand what you mean, it is really just a matter of me formulating myself in a bad way, I'll edit it



I didn't want to come off as rude if you took it that way. I am sorry :-)! I sometimes get worked up if someone sheds not so nice light on my favorite players Sorry ;-)! You know we all acknowledge and appreciate your work! Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 18:47:47
September 19 2013 18:44 GMT
#15
There's also an update to the match prediction.

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There are a few other minor things, but nothing much. It's mostly behind the scenes... Kinda sucks taking the server down for a day for changes that most people will never notice.
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4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
September 19 2013 18:47 GMT
#16
I love it, keep up the great work.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
September 19 2013 18:51 GMT
#17
On September 20 2013 03:44 TheBB wrote:
There are a few other minor things, but nothing much. It's mostly behind the scenes... Kinda sucks taking the server down for a day for changes that most people will never notice.

Don't worry, I will notice.

Because I'll have to figure out how to run python 2.7 and python 3 simultaneously on windows then.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 19 2013 20:47 GMT
#18
Wow, this is amazingggggggggggggggg. I'm loving the new features! And Happy Birthday to Grovbolle, my new boss lol
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
September 19 2013 21:01 GMT
#19
The king is still on top baby.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
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Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
September 19 2013 21:08 GMT
#20
Great!
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