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[Aligulac September 18th] Summer is not at an end - Page 3

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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 07:43 GMT
#41
On September 20 2013 16:39 padiseal2 wrote:
Life dropping in points seems really weird to me. After Ro4 at Dreamhack and wins in GSTL everyone seemed to be saying that he is getting closer to his old form. That's probably because his old form used to be just this good, but it's still strange to see

Pretty much. He still lost to players like eMotion, Symbol, Hyvaa and Stardust, Sniper and Taeja. Who he was all favoured against due to his high rating from times now passed.
http://aligulac.com/players/3-Life/period/93/
Compare the numbers to the left (LIfe's rating in the given matchup) to the numbers on the right (His opponents rating vZ) and you can see that he was favoured against all of them. Now his ratings is adjusted a bit, and it seems more appropriate
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 20 2013 07:44 GMT
#42
On September 20 2013 06:08 SamuelGreen wrote:
Innovation did not have sex with anyone that didnt want that, why would you even say that?

If I were to make a guess, I'd venture that he said that because he's a member of a community dominated by college-age males with a specific hobby. Possibly the single most dangerous and society-blind demographic.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 09:29:56
September 20 2013 09:25 GMT
#43
On September 20 2013 06:29 Boucot wrote:
What does the form mean ? How long is the period involved ?

Form is winrate over the last so-and-so many days. I'm experimenting with different values. I guess it'll end up being something like 1–2 months.

Whenever you see «period» it refers to the two-week interval between two rating lists.

On September 20 2013 15:36 Aiobhill wrote:
Innovation TvZ numbers in the small graphic (I assume TvZ b/c they are identical with the TvT numbers and then only one mistake would be enough to explain it) are wrong. 47/75 is not 71.53% and the numbers for the three matchups don't add up to the given overall number. Please recheck.

Yeah, they're screenshots from a development version, so there are going to be inconsistencies. I fixed that one here.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
September 20 2013 09:31 GMT
#44
You have an excellent birthday sir, hope you enjoy it
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 10:19 GMT
#45
On September 20 2013 18:31 Maynarde wrote:
You have an excellent birthday sir, hope you enjoy it

You too man, enjoy it.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
September 20 2013 10:31 GMT
#46
You didn't talk about HyuN at all :/

I cant wait till the next version comes out!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 10:37 GMT
#47
On September 20 2013 19:31 KaiserKieran wrote:
You didn't talk about HyuN at all :/

I cant wait till the next version comes out!

He played a lot of online cups and Dreamhack. Gaining 16 points. Otherwise mainly playing his current level
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
September 20 2013 10:56 GMT
#48
Why is Hero 8th with 1847 points and MMA 9th with 1848 ? TL fanboyism ?
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 20 2013 10:59 GMT
#49
On September 20 2013 19:56 Kihshra wrote:
Why is Hero 8th with 1847 points and MMA 9th with 1848 ? TL fanboyism ?

I think MMA is actually at 1838, seems to be a typo.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
September 20 2013 11:01 GMT
#50
On September 20 2013 19:59 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 19:56 Kihshra wrote:
Why is Hero 8th with 1847 points and MMA 9th with 1848 ? TL fanboyism ?

I think MMA is actually at 1838, seems to be a typo.

Yeah, I assumed it was a typo, just wanted to know if it the typo was the rankings or the points ^^
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 13:21 GMT
#51
It was a typo indeed, MMA is at 1838
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
September 20 2013 16:09 GMT
#52
VortiX to climb up dat foreigner ranking

awesome update as always
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
September 20 2013 19:50 GMT
#53
On September 20 2013 16:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 07:39 Waise wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:30 Otolia wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:15 SamuelGreen wrote:
So raping is a valid metaphor for beating someone in a game?

"A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object." This is from wikipedia. I don't think forcing someone to have sex with you is at all similar to beating someone in a game.

Edit: I can come with some suggestions: killing (because in the game you kill each other), defeating (because you have to defeat your opponent in starcraft - not a metaphor though), crushing, destroying, mining (hehe, because he likes mines).

Not the right place to argue, sir.

On September 20 2013 06:29 Boucot wrote:
What does the form mean ? How long is the period involved ?

Period are 2 weeks. The form is still a secret (I don't want to lookup the code)

the reason to argue it is because it's a sensitive and traumatic term to a lot of people for reasons that are more important than video games. so any place is the right place to argue. there are people out there who use TL who have been through sexual abuse or had a friend or family member sexually abused, so someone needs to be speaking out for those people regardless of whether it ruins your poor starcraft statistics thread. it's worth being mocked or even banned to say these things.

so stop using it unless you're an asshole.

But "bombed", "killed" or "murdered" are fine, right?

I would prefer it if people didn't use such terms but the reason using 'rape' is worse is because it can be a trigger for anyone who has been raped. It is unlikely many people who have been killed or murdered are reading the forum so it is not as bad to use such words. At least imo. My attitude towards using the word 'rape' in this context is simply that it could be a trigger for someone and it doesn't hurt anybody at all to not use the word. There are plenty of other words that can be used.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 20:27 GMT
#54
On September 21 2013 04:50 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 16:21 Zealously wrote:
On September 20 2013 07:39 Waise wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:30 Otolia wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:15 SamuelGreen wrote:
So raping is a valid metaphor for beating someone in a game?

"A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object." This is from wikipedia. I don't think forcing someone to have sex with you is at all similar to beating someone in a game.

Edit: I can come with some suggestions: killing (because in the game you kill each other), defeating (because you have to defeat your opponent in starcraft - not a metaphor though), crushing, destroying, mining (hehe, because he likes mines).

Not the right place to argue, sir.

On September 20 2013 06:29 Boucot wrote:
What does the form mean ? How long is the period involved ?

Period are 2 weeks. The form is still a secret (I don't want to lookup the code)

the reason to argue it is because it's a sensitive and traumatic term to a lot of people for reasons that are more important than video games. so any place is the right place to argue. there are people out there who use TL who have been through sexual abuse or had a friend or family member sexually abused, so someone needs to be speaking out for those people regardless of whether it ruins your poor starcraft statistics thread. it's worth being mocked or even banned to say these things.

so stop using it unless you're an asshole.

But "bombed", "killed" or "murdered" are fine, right?

I would prefer it if people didn't use such terms but the reason using 'rape' is worse is because it can be a trigger for anyone who has been raped. It is unlikely many people who have been killed or murdered are reading the forum so it is not as bad to use such words. At least imo. My attitude towards using the word 'rape' in this context is simply that it could be a trigger for someone and it doesn't hurt anybody at all to not use the word. There are plenty of other words that can be used.


On September 20 2013 15:23 Grovbolle wrote:
So is death and murder in general, but I'll keep it in mind next time.

Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 20 2013 20:44 GMT
#55
I bet you didn't expect the controversy this time to be rape. :D There's always someone whining about the ranking itself, but not this time. ^^
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
September 20 2013 20:46 GMT
#56
On September 21 2013 05:44 Kasaraki wrote:
I bet you didn't expect the controversy this time to be rape. :D There's always someone whining about the ranking itself, but not this time. ^^

Quite a change of pace, I guess this means that at least we are down to arguing about semantics, which is better than what we usually get
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
September 21 2013 05:15 GMT
#57
How does San still not have a team ?
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
September 21 2013 05:52 GMT
#58
On September 21 2013 05:27 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 04:50 Melliflue wrote:
On September 20 2013 16:21 Zealously wrote:
On September 20 2013 07:39 Waise wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:30 Otolia wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:15 SamuelGreen wrote:
So raping is a valid metaphor for beating someone in a game?

"A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object." This is from wikipedia. I don't think forcing someone to have sex with you is at all similar to beating someone in a game.

Edit: I can come with some suggestions: killing (because in the game you kill each other), defeating (because you have to defeat your opponent in starcraft - not a metaphor though), crushing, destroying, mining (hehe, because he likes mines).

Not the right place to argue, sir.

On September 20 2013 06:29 Boucot wrote:
What does the form mean ? How long is the period involved ?

Period are 2 weeks. The form is still a secret (I don't want to lookup the code)

the reason to argue it is because it's a sensitive and traumatic term to a lot of people for reasons that are more important than video games. so any place is the right place to argue. there are people out there who use TL who have been through sexual abuse or had a friend or family member sexually abused, so someone needs to be speaking out for those people regardless of whether it ruins your poor starcraft statistics thread. it's worth being mocked or even banned to say these things.

so stop using it unless you're an asshole.

But "bombed", "killed" or "murdered" are fine, right?

I would prefer it if people didn't use such terms but the reason using 'rape' is worse is because it can be a trigger for anyone who has been raped. It is unlikely many people who have been killed or murdered are reading the forum so it is not as bad to use such words. At least imo. My attitude towards using the word 'rape' in this context is simply that it could be a trigger for someone and it doesn't hurt anybody at all to not use the word. There are plenty of other words that can be used.


Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 15:23 Grovbolle wrote:
So is death and murder in general, but I'll keep it in mind next time.


Sorry. My comment wasn't directed at you directly and I understand you had already said you would keep it in mind. I was trying to explain why some words are worse than others, since Zealously seemed to be equating the use of 'rape' with the use of 'kill' and 'murder'. Maybe I should have sent a pm instead of making a post.

Thanks for all the hard work with aligulac!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 21 2013 06:11 GMT
#59
On September 21 2013 14:15 mcc wrote:
How does San still not have a team ?

I believe he has found a team, it just hasn't been announced yet.
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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
September 21 2013 06:24 GMT
#60
Oh hell yeah on those new features! - thanks for implementing the Top 5 Players in team ranking
(Also thought that use of adjective raping was a bit off in a semi-official write-up).
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
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