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[Aligulac September 4th] This is not a Power Rank

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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-07 21:54:31
September 06 2013 18:25 GMT
#1
Specific feedback and feature requests should go here: Aligulac.com changelog and feedback thread

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Hello everyone and welcome back to yet another glorious aligulac write-up. If you like me have recently dug back to university, you need some procrastination from all those thick books and scientific articles. (250 pages in my first week, in English, my brain hurts already). This periods write-up contains matches starting with WCS S2 Finals and everything after that untill the 4th.

Now before we get into this, remember that a difference of around 250 or less means that there is no statistically significant difference between two players, but who am I kidding, you just want to rage and yell at our stats, so here we go.

The list:
  1. kr INnoVation 2011 (-2: WCS S2, GSTL)
  2. kr Polt 1966 (-49: WCS S2)
  3. kr TaeJa 1898 (+31: WCS S2, SC2L)
  4. kr Bomber 1890 (+115: WCS S2)
  5. kr Life 1882 (+0: No matches)
  6. kr HyuN 1872 (-22: ESET Masters Qualifiers, WCS AM)
  7. kr sOs 1858 (+17: WCS KR)
  8. kr Flash 1834 (+0: No matches)
  9. kr Soulkey 1834 (+13: WCS KR)
  10. kr Mvp 1834 (+0: No matches)

With a very lackluster WCS S2 finals, INnoVation managed to stabilize his points by finishing this period off with a GSTL all-kill versus FXO. Taking out all their best players but GuMiho. The WCS AM champion Polt lost quite some points after a disappointing season 2 final. Taeja and Bomber on the other hand are slowly but surely creeping up the ranks. It will be interesting to follow if any of the two Korean terrans can pressure INnoVation's 1st place. With a solid group win from Soulkey he also moves up from 10th to 9th, hopefully the Woongjin superstar doesn't have to face INnoVation in the Ro16 so we actually can see another WCS KR zerg ascend the ranks :D.

The foreigner list:
  1. es LucifroN 1796 (-8: Raidcall EES, IEM New York Qualifiers, Millenium show cup)
  2. tw Sen 1752 (-25: NEO Starleague, HK e-sports)
  3. se NaNiwa 1732 (+2: WCS S2, IEM New York Qualifiers, WCS EU)
  4. cn Jim 1720 (+14: NEO Starleague)
  5. pl Nerchio 1711 (+71: SC2L, Zotac, Raidcall EES, IEM New York Qualifiers)
  6. ru Happy 1706 (-16: Zotac, Raidcall EES, IEM New York Qualifiers, WCS EU)
  7. ca Scarlett 1671 (+10: WCS S2, SC2L)
  8. es VortiX 1668 (-6: Raidcall EES, Zotac, IEM New York Qualifiers)
  9. no Snute 1665 (+0: SC2L, WCS AM, Millenium show cup, IEM New York Qualifiers)
  10. ua Kas 1611 (+1: Raidcall EES, IEM New York Qualifiers)

In the foreigner department, we see that both LucifroN and Sen are losing points, with LucifroN playing in a lot of different teamleagues and qualifiers, while Sen struggled in HK e-sports and versus Jim in NSL. NaNiwa's win over INnoVation and a solid performance in the last period overall gave him a small 2 point increase, which can be explained by his lackluster WCS EU performance. Chinese superstar Jim keeps plowing through competition, and Polish badboy Nerchio also took a giant +71 point leap due to great play in various online cups and qualifiers. Happy and Vortix are the biggest losers this period, and Scarlett gains a small increase with Snute staying where he was last period. Finally The Destroyer (Kas) makes his first top 10 appearance in quite some time off the back of some good wins in IEM New York Qualifiers.

This week I want to give a shoutout to our programming team, which are:
"well, we're basically rewriting the codebase, which will weed out a number of bugs and help stability, but mostly people won't notice anything when it happens" -TheBB.
I have no idea what it means, but I assume it is something positive .
Also shoutouts to the ever hardworking match submitters: kiekaboe, MasterOfPuppets, Shellshock, PhoenixVoid and Sabre. Congratulations to Shellshock on becoming a Banling. Finally thanks to NrSFrozENDruiD for giving us a free spot on Welmu's badass jersey

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Also this is hopefully coming soon:
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If you want to get in contact with us, want to volunteer or have suggestion feel free to use:
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Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 06 2013 18:30 GMT
#2
Are there any plans to allow for limiting the timeframe of ratings?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 06 2013 18:33 GMT
#3
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
September 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#4
On September 07 2013 03:30 Noam wrote:
Are there any plans to allow for limiting the timeframe of ratings?

What do you mean, exactly?
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#5
I would like to see that Top 10 list [for example] if the rating was calculated using only matches played in the last 30 days, or some other more significant date such as "After WCS S1", etc..
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 19:22:28
September 06 2013 19:17 GMT
#6
On September 07 2013 04:08 Noam wrote:
I would like to see that Top 10 list [for example] if the rating was calculated using only matches played in the last 30 days, or some other more significant date such as "After WCS S1", etc..

I'm not so keen on that idea, personally. It would complicate the backend quite a bit if we were to do it properly (and not so much the hacky way, I guess). I'm also worried about reducing the "canonicity" of the system. I can maybe play around with it when I have more time, but there are other things that to me seem both more useful and which are easier to do.



Edit: Since Grovbolle doesn't know what he's talking about, what I'm doing right now is porting the whole thing to Python 3, cleaning up the code and patching up all or most of the minor bugs and annoyances as I find them. Otolia has promised to start working on an API very soon, and I know this is a highly sought after feature. Hopefully we can release all these changes together soonish. (That chart in the OP is one of them.)

And yeah, a big thank you to NRS for putting us on their team shirt totally free of charge. I know there are many closet NRS fans among the Aligulac staff. :D
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 06 2013 20:08 GMT
#7
A big thank you again to TheBB and the whole Aligulac team, your site remains one of the most valuable ressources for fans of the SC2 scene <3
As a P I'm happy we keep at least one player in the top ten - even though SoS isn't exactly who I'd call best Protoss, but stats don't lie.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
September 06 2013 20:15 GMT
#8
On September 07 2013 05:08 ACrow wrote:
A big thank you again to TheBB and the whole Aligulac team, your site remains one of the most valuable ressources for fans of the SC2 scene <3
As a P I'm happy we keep at least one player in the top ten - even though SoS isn't exactly who I'd call best Protoss, but stats don't lie.

Interpretations of stats do though. I personally think Rain or PartinG have a better claim, maybe First.
A system of this sorts is limited by loads of factors and imperfections, statistically sos can't be called better than any protoss with 250 or less lower ranking.
Still it's fun to track "Best protosses in the world."
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Dghelneshi
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany82 Posts
September 06 2013 21:40 GMT
#9
It seems like Scarlett's rating is suffering a bit from the same problem that Koreans did before the change to their starting rating and favoring offline matches. She's consistently below other foreigners (although not by too much) while arguably playing the best games (I know this is subjective, just my opinion).
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
September 06 2013 21:44 GMT
#10
NrS has a sweet jersey - welmu really should wear it more!
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
September 06 2013 21:58 GMT
#11
Thanks for the writeup, always a pleasure to read them.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 06 2013 22:17 GMT
#12
On September 07 2013 05:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 05:08 ACrow wrote:
A big thank you again to TheBB and the whole Aligulac team, your site remains one of the most valuable ressources for fans of the SC2 scene <3
As a P I'm happy we keep at least one player in the top ten - even though SoS isn't exactly who I'd call best Protoss, but stats don't lie.

Interpretations of stats do though. I personally think Rain or PartinG have a better claim, maybe First.
A system of this sorts is limited by loads of factors and imperfections, statistically sos can't be called better than any protoss with 250 or less lower ranking.
Still it's fun to track "Best protosses in the world."

sOs is sObest

we just haven't seen him play in forever
jjakji fan
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 06 2013 22:56 GMT
#13
quick question, why is Lucifron so high in Aligulac

but so low in TLPD?
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
September 07 2013 10:20 GMT
#14
On September 07 2013 07:56 mikumegurine wrote:
quick question, why is Lucifron so high in Aligulac

but so low in TLPD?

My best guess is because our DB doesn't have separate HotS and WoL DB's. When TLPD HotS launched, everyone was back to ground zero, which is also the reason why the TLPD HotS DB looks somewhat funny still, their DB won't be "useful" untill it is at least one year old, simply due to lack of games in DB. We also had a shaky period right around the launch of HotS, but ours is mostly stabilized by now.

Example: While I do like Heromarine, he is probably not top 6 player in the World. And Happy as number 3 also seems a bit much
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
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