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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 26 2013 15:56 GMT
#48
/in
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 26 2013 22:35 GMT
#71
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 26 2013 22:51 GMT
#74
I might be dead but
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 27 2013 01:33 GMT
#99
On July 27 2013 09:55 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 09:40 FirmTofu wrote:
To all of you that are out there...

Do you think policy lynching a lurker day 1 is a good idea? Why or why not?



Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first.

Day 1 lynches are always interesting though. It is hard to get solid reads and judge interactions between players.

So basically you don't have a stance on it?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 27 2013 23:37 GMT
#440
Sorry this start date was really bad for me. I'll be here in full tomorrow. It's a friend's birthday and my day off so I can't even play at work
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 27 2013 23:48 GMT
#441
On July 28 2013 05:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Yeah I'm just going to ignore everything VA says for the rest of the game. Sounds good?

@FirmTofu: Why in the bloody hell are you calling my play useless? You're the one who made 6-7 posts at the beginning of the game and then said "peace out". You are in no position to say I've been useless, because I haven't.

Oatsmaster, please stop posting one-liners and unhelpful things, it's continuing to look very scummy. Perhaps you should interact with other townies and their cases instead of asking everyone to comment on your case like some dog begging for its' next meal.

Also while I'm free for like ten minutes, this is a bad post.

Vayne can be hard to read but actually take the time to siphon through the terrible parts and he actually makes some good points usually. Haven't read him yet so I can't comment but if he isn't providing those good nuggets look into lynching him. Ignoring him is the dumbest and probably most anti-town thing you could do regarding him.

Overall this whole post does nothing towards reaching our win con. Noting this for later.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 12:56 GMT
#518
Catching up now, just woke up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 16:03 GMT
#622
On July 29 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

I give up. I don't want to play this game anymore.

Lol, this dude scum. Anyway, now that I'm caught up I'm having a couple issues with people. Going to type those up real quick.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 16:53 GMT
#646
First is Vivax:

It's really interesting to me he's so gung ho on lynching me for inactivity when, of anyone in this game, he would know my activity isn't a tell of my alignment at all. I play when I'm at work/have free time I'm not spending with my girlfriend. That's a constant as scum or town.

He attacked me for a single post, before I've really even started playing when a quick one liner is literally my only course of generating discussion when all I have time to do is drop a phone post.

He also put the accusation on the back burner to endorse the lynch of another coinflip in Vayne avoiding discussing the actual happenings of the thread. That's off of what I'd expect from Vivax. He usually has a mix of good reads with bad but as a constant he's stubborn and pushes them. I don't see that here.

His reason for lynching Hz is practically identical to his reason for lynching me and he still isn't showing the original thoughts I expect from him.

Food for thought(i wouldn't bar lynching him off of this but it's interesting ): last two times he's played as scum in a game I've been in he's attempted to lynch me (YANMM & Roulette) as an easy mislynch due to my usually scummy nature. First time he got lynched over me, second time he backed off the read in a fashion very similar to how he backed off of Hz .

I don't think he's a d1 lynch right now but if he doesn't start showing up in a meaningful way I'd definitely lynch him.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 17:22 GMT
#653
On July 29 2013 02:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:
First is Vivax:

It's really interesting to me he's so gung ho on lynching me for inactivity when, of anyone in this game, he would know my activity isn't a tell of my alignment at all. I play when I'm at work/have free time I'm not spending with my girlfriend. That's a constant as scum or town.

He attacked me for a single post, before I've really even started playing when a quick one liner is literally my only course of generating discussion when all I have time to do is drop a phone post.

He also put the accusation on the back burner to endorse the lynch of another coinflip in Vayne avoiding discussing the actual happenings of the thread. That's off of what I'd expect from Vivax. He usually has a mix of good reads with bad but as a constant he's stubborn and pushes them. I don't see that here.

His reason for lynching Hz is practically identical to his reason for lynching me and he still isn't showing the original thoughts I expect from him.

Food for thought(i wouldn't bar lynching him off of this but it's interesting ): last two times he's played as scum in a game I've been in he's attempted to lynch me (YANMM & Roulette) as an easy mislynch due to my usually scummy nature. First time he got lynched over me, second time he backed off the read in a fashion very similar to how he backed off of Hz .

I don't think he's a d1 lynch right now but if he doesn't start showing up in a meaningful way I'd definitely lynch him.


Things like

Show nested quote +
So basically you don't have a stance on it?


can be considered generating discussion in your opinion?

Especially, PS said something very similar to what I said in that post, and you chose to attack him but not me, I discussed this with hz.

I don't know where you got the notion I bolded, can you walk me through it?
What constitutes original thought to you? Do you think I'm recycling other people's opinions?

Typing up who I'd rather lynch but I know you're smart weigh to realize that by posting that I had no objective except to try and generate discussion. If I was scum trying to lead a mislynch wagon I would certainly read the thread more closely to make sure I wasn't doing that at random. It would also serve no purpose except to call attention to my self considering I didn't follow it up Basically I opened the thread, saw that post and posted to gauge reactions since I didn't have time to actually play and that post felt very safe/avoiding a stance.

Regarding the Hz thing I'll quote the post after(phone posting) but considering he agreed with me and your interaction with him about it is why you found him scummy I assumed it was because he agreed.

Finishing up my other post now.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 17:22 GMT
#654
On July 29 2013 00:32 Vivax wrote:
Right now im interested into knowing who hzflanks other three scumspects are, if he has any besides paperscraps.
Found him kinda scummy since the thing with stutters, where he used one argument on paperscraps but not on me. I need still to analyze his other posts more properly though. I suggest that's a good place to start looking if you want to find something weird about hz.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 17:48 GMT
#665
On July 29 2013 02:35 Vivax wrote:
Fucking mosquitos man.

Anyway, I won't touch Cora for sure, I think the probable ragequit makes him town. Townies tend to be more egoistical.

Stutters, i disagreed cause you reduced my reasons to that single post when they are mroe complex than that. It's true that I found it suspicious that you two went selective on me and paper (which is a fact cause we said the same thing but you only suspected him), but applying that statement to the current situation just isn't right, aside from the fact that I'm currently leaning town on HZ for that part about his Oats post. If he's scum he's a pro actor.

So let me recap: You threw shit in from the sidelines, you show really low activity, and you applied your reasoning to PS but not to me.

HZ did the same selective thing, but he also tunneled PS in a way I found suspicious cause he tends to interpret what he gets about him in the worst way possible, and replied in your favour when I suspected you, which I found odd at such an early stage.

If I get it right, I'm your scumread yes? Then I'm sure you're going to find plenty of reasons for that argument in my filter, I'm eager to hear your case for me being scum.

You can claim being busy all you want, I'm also busy every time I roll scum.

Looking forward to hear your opinions on other players as well, not just the guy who suspects you.

I literally said at the end of my case that I didn't want to lynch you today because I'm not sure but I think you're scum.

Also check your filter man, it isn't obvious at all what your reasons for wanting to lynch Hz were outside of what I quoted.

Anyway of my lynch ideas today I was torn between CJS and PS. I don't think such a rage quit is a town trait when it happens because his smurf got revealed. He clearly was enjoying the in character play so he's probably just frustrated that he can't keep that up now. He'd be like that as either alignment. However knowing who it is makes me want to give him more leeway because I feel somewhat confident in reading Cora. So I'd rather lynch PS. I'll post my reasoning in full when I get s break at work
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 18:20 GMT
#688
On July 29 2013 03:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
Although I disagree with most of what he's said since he came back, he seems to be trying to figure the game out.
Also OMG FOUND A SCUMSLIP classic town, hard to fake. At the very least don't lynch him today.

I'm gonna be gone for a couple of hours but will be back with plenty of time to spare.

I suggest people look into Oats, Stutters and Malongo.
Right now I think I'm willing to lynch Malongo (waiting on him to show up first) or Stutters.

What makes you want to lynch me? Do you disagree with my analysis of vivax? I go through this every game due to my activity coming in spurts depending on my RL schedule.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#714
Anyway, on to why I'm down with the paper lynch.

His post on lynching lurkers was weird. Not committal but that's w/e. Opening d1 is really awkward for both alignments.

What gets me about him is two-fold. First despite his clear protesting about not lynching lurkers and a clear understanding of a pro-town environment he lurks and provides no justification for his play that clearly doesn't match his expected play of a townie.

His reads are also very loose and for the most part do nothing to actually catch scum. It's also a little weird that despite all the controversy around CJS and Firm he doesn't modify his reads from null on them but picks all of his targets from the people he hadn't previously commented on.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 19:26 GMT
#718
On July 29 2013 04:24 FirmTofu wrote:
Rayn always accuses me Day 1. This is becoming a thing now. I've been town every game and rayn has been wrong every time.

Exarezee is scum. I'm not sure what else I can say to convince you guys. Everything he has done this game is scummy. His defense is scummy. His attack on me is scummy. His attempt to set up 2 wagons is scummy. My vote stays on exarezee.

Reread it, he's so obviously town I find it hard to believe you can't see it.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 19:26 GMT
#719
And on that note, going to check out FT a bit closer.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 19:50 GMT
#734
Because I wasn't playing so clearly I'm scum. I asked him earlier and he ignored it
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 19:53 GMT
#735
Also Tofu read page 5 and 6 of his filter. That isn't scum responses at all.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 20:00 GMT
#738
And reading your part on Malongo Rayn I must say I disagree there. Any continued effort on his part and I'd believe you but one post is not a trend. It wasn't even that good of a post. I can understand your logic but that's null as shit to me. If we can't agree on a lynch I'd totally lynch him today but he's really better left to any vigs we have.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 20:15 GMT
#741
Where'd everyone go
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