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[M] (2) TPW Valley of Nis

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Meltage
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany613 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:19:14
January 16 2013 14:20 GMT
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The Genie that haunts the moonbeams spake to the Daemon of the Valley, saying, “I am old, and forget much. Tell me the deeds and aspect and name of them who built these things of Stone.” And the Daemon replied, “I am Memory, and am wise in lore of the past, but I too am old. These beings were like the waters of the river Than, not to be understood. Their deeds I recall not, for they were but of the moment. Their aspect I recall dimly, it was like to that of the little apes in the trees. Their name I recall clearly, for it rhymed with that of the river. These beings of yesterday were called Man.”


from Memory, H.P Lovecraft


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12 bases, regular
2 XelNaga Watchtowers
Playble size: 144x152
Nat 2 nat distance ~37 secs

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Published on HoTS EU as TPW Valley of Nis

By Meltage, Samro and TPW
http://mentalbalans.se/aggedesign
Veloh15
Profile Joined January 2012
United States161 Posts
January 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#2

How many minerals are in the gold patches?
Seems like it may be rather difficult for a Zerg to take an early 3rd vs Toss, but it is hard to say without being able to get in game with it t,t

Hopefully I'll be seeing it on NA!
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 16 2013 15:44 GMT
#3
I don't know about the center of the map, it seems a bit narrow. However I love the layout of the bases
Good Job !
rly ?
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
January 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#4
im always amazed by your texturing skills, so good. the map is also pretty awesome, i would give it a 7 on sc2melee
SDMF
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
January 16 2013 18:05 GMT
#5
For some reason this map feels kinda like the earlier SC2 maps to me... Not sure what it is. It's just like... It's feels free, like when people didn't know what they were doing and just did whatever. Not in a bad way; this map doesn't really break any important rules or anything, but maybe when people started to figure out what was good and bad in mapping, they (or we) focused on that and lost sight of any weird or funky ways to fit the terrain into the map. Still can't put my finger on exactly it is in this map, though. Reminds me a bit of BW maps as well.

Anyways, I like it. The center's cool. Not sure about the watchtowers; do they reveal a bit too much? But the use of big and small ramps here seems pretty nice.
all's fair in love and melodies
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
January 16 2013 18:09 GMT
#6
Good revision! I don't know about 7, it's kind of bland...

Better than that gsl map though.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Meltage
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany613 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 01:53:51
January 17 2013 01:53 GMT
#7
On January 16 2013 23:55 Veloh15 wrote:

How many minerals are in the gold patches?
Seems like it may be rather difficult for a Zerg to take an early 3rd vs Toss, but it is hard to say without being able to get in game with it t,t

Hopefully I'll be seeing it on NA!



The gold patches are 36 minerals per patch. I heard that is standard. Yeah, need to see games. I'll try to get it on NA.

The map is, btw, is currently a Starbow map. Here's a replay. The toss played the game for the first time, but I was a bit confused to see the Starbow veteran terran expand horizontally. It makes sense to get yoru first 5 bases that way I supose when the army is slow mech.

How would you expand, in different matchups?

(also, I'll post detail images on tower range and the like soon)

On January 17 2013 01:56 Terranlover wrote:
im always amazed by your texturing skills, so good. the map is also pretty awesome, i would give it a 7 on sc2melee


Glad to hear from the texturer of this, which is unbeatable.
http://mentalbalans.se/aggedesign
Meltage
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany613 Posts
May 07 2013 22:20 GMT
#8
The map is now adapted and published for HotS on EU. OP was updated with the new Overview + eye candy pictures. Aesthetics are finsihed.

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TheHuman
Profile Joined April 2013
7 Posts
May 08 2013 03:35 GMT
#9
I love everything about the map other than the narrow center and the some what risky 3rd. Texture work is simple yet very appealing.
gronnelg
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway354 Posts
May 08 2013 06:23 GMT
#10
Oh my friggin' god! I LOVE the aestethics of this map! It seems somewhat chokey though. Might be a problem?
Lulzez || My stream: http://www.twitch.tv/gronnelg
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