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ClouD will leave ALTERNATE, Germany and the EPS

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Teaser
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 23:52:33
January 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#1
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Source: www.escene.de / www.escene.eu

The Italian Terran player Carlo 'ClouD' Giannacco recently announced that he will leave Germany to live in his home country Italy again. ClouD came to Germany in 2010 to participate in the German ESL Pro Series for his former team MeetYourMakers. He used to live together with Johan 'NaNiwa' Lucchesi at the beginning of his time in Germany till the Swedish Protoss got kicked out of the EPS. Living alone in a different country was sometimes hard for the 25-year old, ClouD told escene.de in an interview some months ago. Beside of his step back to Italy more changes will happen in the life of the Terran player as he announced to leave Team ALTERNATE and that he is already looking for a new team. Without living in Germany he also won't be able to participate in another season of the German ESL Pro Series as this is required for any player who wants to play in the EPS.

@ClouDsc2

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LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
January 12 2013 23:53 GMT
#2
Clouds been under the radar for a while. Hope to see some results and a new team from him soon!
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 12 2013 23:58 GMT
#3
Honestly, with his BM over the months he really needs to clear that out and focus on actually playing to make it anywhere, I feel like.
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 23:58:48
January 12 2013 23:58 GMT
#4
Well ClouD spent a lot of time in Germany,that's a good proof of devotion,he served pretty well.
I can imagine he misses Italia now.

Hope he'll do well in the future & gl for a new team.
I just thought about it but Millenium GH is in marseille,near Italy,would be a good compromise :p
RIP MKP
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 13 2013 00:04 GMT
#5
So I read from this that he got the results he wanted to keep playing and not retire?
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#6
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh
Refer to my post.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
January 13 2013 00:09 GMT
#7
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.
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Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
January 13 2013 00:09 GMT
#8
On January 13 2013 09:04 TheBB wrote:
So I read from this that he got the results he wanted to keep playing and not retire?


No, he just changed idea...
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
January 13 2013 00:10 GMT
#9
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.

He's Terran, and noone wants foreign Terran right now.
Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
January 13 2013 00:11 GMT
#10
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


He's still better then half of the progamers..

If desrow can join fxo, cloud can centantly find a good team
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
January 13 2013 00:12 GMT
#11
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
January 13 2013 00:15 GMT
#12
On January 13 2013 09:12 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.

The fact that he's BM isn't his issue. A lot of players are, and many teams have shown that they don't care that much about it.

With proper practice he'll improve and get a good team. My main question is whether he'll focus on HotS or WoL for the time being.
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Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
January 13 2013 00:20 GMT
#13
On January 13 2013 09:12 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.


He probably won't join a team like EG or Liquid, sure. But that doesn't mean he can't join a smaller team.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 13 2013 00:23 GMT
#14
i dont like him at all, he has such a naive and childish behavior and mindset towards both reallife and sc2. gl in the future though
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:24:22
January 13 2013 00:24 GMT
#15
On January 13 2013 08:58 Thalandros wrote:
Honestly, with his BM over the months he really needs to clear that out and focus on actually playing to make it anywhere, I feel like.


Really? I think the brand value of mediocore players increases when they make "headlines". If Cloud was a quiet guy, then everybody would have forgot he even exisited.
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
January 13 2013 00:29 GMT
#16
Have fun in Italy Cloud. I hope you find a good team and can keep playing Starcraft.
GlGl
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 13 2013 00:32 GMT
#17
I feel extremely happy and motivated myself from his decision to not retire and keep trying to practice and improve.

He always seemed like a great individual (outside that one time when he cheesed me on ladder - like a dick, I might add), and if he survived mentally the terran oppression of this year, he'll surely do great in the future
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
January 13 2013 00:33 GMT
#18
Shame. He is a heavy BMer but his stream was always entertaining and educating. Good luck.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
January 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#19
I always feel like he is close to quitting the game
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:37:52
January 13 2013 00:36 GMT
#20
On January 13 2013 09:20 Eshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:12 Mauldo wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.


He probably won't join a team like EG or Liquid, sure. But that doesn't mean he can't join a smaller team.

I don't know what kind of players teams of any size scout for, but Cloud is probably the progamer that publicly whines about balance the most (though there are probably bigger names not coming to mind), hasn't really done much in the past year. Then again, most foreigners haven't either. I'm not saying no one will pick him up, FXO did pick up Desrow after all, I would have never predicted that. I don't follow him nor online tournaments, but the most I remember of him is doing somewhat well in online tournaments in 2011, before koreans were in the picture.

Having that said, if he does put in the hour and the effort, he is just as deserving as anybody else. Gl to him
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