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SSeoni
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
139 Posts
January 13 2013 10:47 GMT
#61
All the best ClouD! He's deserves some props after all these hardworks and hard time in his career!
씨니
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 11:25:54
January 13 2013 11:01 GMT
#62
Last time I posted a joke at clouds expense, he cursed me out on skype and removed me.. I guess we can safely say dignitas isn't a very likely option.

Ideally for Cloud we're talking teams like millenium, mouz, but I don't see them interested. I could see him ending up with a team like Infused. You can't neglect the experience and reputation that he has build up over the years, yeah he's got a volatile personality, but it's still better than being an unknown. Even if he hasn't won any titles, he's often present at many events, making it through qualifiers and what not. He could give a team some good face time.

Edit: I thought he didn't like living in Italy though, am I remembering that wrong?
Spent new years at the Amalfi Coast which was nothing short of amazing, but Napels was a stark contrast with parts of it being quite rundown. I hope you end up in a good area. Also make sure you have stream worthy internet, obviously that increases a players value.

On January 13 2013 09:40 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:36 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:20 Eshra wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:12 Mauldo wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.


He probably won't join a team like EG or Liquid, sure. But that doesn't mean he can't join a smaller team.

I don't know what kind of players teams of any size scout for, but Cloud is probably the progamer that publicly whines about balance the most (though there are probably bigger names not coming to mind), hasn't really done much in the past year. Then again, most foreigners haven't either. I'm not saying no one will pick him up, FXO did pick up Desrow after all, I would have never predicted that. I don't follow him nor online tournaments, but the most I remember of him is doing somewhat well in online tournaments in 2011, before koreans were in the picture.

Having that said, if he does put in the hour and the effort, he is just as deserving as anybody else. Gl to him


You know who else whines about balance, 90% of Korean players, and quite worse than ClouD does tbh. ToD also whines about balance a ton, more so than ClouD actually.

Anyways I do like ClouD and hope he find a good team, I could see him going to FXO europe or Empire, maybe even Diginitas.


On January 13 2013 09:52 Putty wrote:
He will fit well in Empire or Dignitas i think. But also Karont3 is an option and he's very friend with Lucifron...


I think we can rule out dignitas for now, considering what happened when Tefel was recruited. Then again, dignitas signed Ourk and there's history between him and Bling too so who knows.
Empire, FXO eu, maybe. I'd agree with Karont3 being a good fit though.

Edit: Why are people making such a big deal about him being BM or not? There's absolutely no point in denying he has a history of being bad mannered, sure, but why do people think it matters this much? This whole discussion about him being BM or not is a waste of space.
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 13 2013 11:17 GMT
#63
After reading it my impression is that its a quiet retirement.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
January 13 2013 12:27 GMT
#64
I'm going to keep playing, I said some months ago I was unhappy with how I performed in tournament games and unless I saw improvement I would retire. I think my mindset has changed and I've been playing much better in the latest tournaments. Sure with terran the way it is not I did not expect to win HomeStoryCup, I only wanted to see if I choked or not in tournament games like I used to do. Nothing is worse than going in a competition and underperforming, and the last 3 tournaments I played I was happy with myself and had overall a good feeling. I think I am a much better player right now and if Blizzard keeps this state of balance I will change race with HotS (like other non korean pro terrans probably) but I am definitely going to play more since in Italy I don't have to worry about anything except how to improve myself as a person and as a player. I'm absolutely not considering retirement just because the game is screwed up, I would rather change my race than being defeated by the incompetence of the Blizzard balance team. There's still a lot to play and to see in the future and I see myself doing much better than in the past as I grow up in mindset and skill.
Thanks to the guys with the kind words and cheers to the h8ers, love ya <3 [image loading]
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NeV
Profile Joined July 2008
Italy370 Posts
January 13 2013 12:32 GMT
#65
I hope to see you switching back to protoss :O
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 13 2013 12:34 GMT
#66
On January 13 2013 21:27 aTnClouD wrote:
I'm going to keep playing, I said some months ago I was unhappy with how I performed in tournament games and unless I saw improvement I would retire. I think my mindset has changed and I've been playing much better in the latest tournaments. Sure with terran the way it is not I did not expect to win HomeStoryCup, I only wanted to see if I choked or not in tournament games like I used to do. Nothing is worse than going in a competition and underperforming, and the last 3 tournaments I played I was happy with myself and had overall a good feeling. I think I am a much better player right now and if Blizzard keeps this state of balance I will change race with HotS (like other non korean pro terrans probably) but I am definitely going to play more since in Italy I don't have to worry about anything except how to improve myself as a person and as a player. I'm absolutely not considering retirement just because the game is screwed up, I would rather change my race than being defeated by the incompetence of the Blizzard balance team. There's still a lot to play and to see in the future and I see myself doing much better than in the past as I grow up in mindset and skill.
Thanks to the guys with the kind words and cheers to the h8ers, love ya <3 [image loading]

Back your roots and play protoss [image loading]
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
January 13 2013 13:09 GMT
#67
hope he won´t retire and find an awesome new team soon!!
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
January 13 2013 13:47 GMT
#68
On January 13 2013 20:01 Martijn wrote:
Last time I posted a joke at clouds expense, he cursed me out on skype and removed me.. I guess we can safely say dignitas isn't a very likely option.


Cursed and removed over that post? Hah
It takes a fool to remain sane.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15359 Posts
January 13 2013 23:09 GMT
#69
You will be missed. Come back soon <3
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t e a C h e r
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada151 Posts
January 13 2013 23:16 GMT
#70
ClouD!!! Come to a NA team

Dignitas or Empire should pick him up.

Good luck ClouD
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 23:27:52
January 13 2013 23:20 GMT
#71
The only post he makes in his own thread he says he has a better mindset then whines about balance. I'm all for foreigners trying to make it happen for them, but stop blaming the race.
Refer to my post.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 23:22:44
January 13 2013 23:21 GMT
#72
Please come back with a better attitude towards the game and humanity.
That includes the constant blaming of others for your own underperforming.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
January 13 2013 23:21 GMT
#73
Its not possible to play Terran in Europe, but at least you get some more sun in Italy.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 13 2013 23:22 GMT
#74
Gl hf! What is the state of the italian sc2 scene btw? Are there any dominating teams like e.g. Millenium for France?
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 13 2013 23:29 GMT
#75
I don't really like ClouD, he always seems to whine more than play.

GL to him, we need some more terran representation in the foreign lands.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 13 2013 23:32 GMT
#76
On January 14 2013 08:22 JustPassingBy wrote:
Gl hf! What is the state of the italian sc2 scene btw? Are there any dominating teams like e.g. Millenium for France?

well, Inferno eSports is probably the biggest organisation in Italy. They used to have a pretty good European lineup, with SortOf, RunA and Jimpo and some others, but then they were reduced to just Italian players, probably the best Italian players, with the exceptions of StarEagle, ClouD and Evaner. Now they just picked up Sickness, a Korean player who used to be on Dream Team Gaming. They also have a partnership with Dream Team Gaming, which should have ended at the end of 2012, so I don't really know what's happening with that ^^.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
January 13 2013 23:32 GMT
#77
On January 13 2013 09:12 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:09 KaiserJohan wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 Zenbrez wrote:
Can't think of a team that would want him tbh


A little harsh isn't it? he's not the most well-known but he is still quite a good player.


Not really. He's a BM player who hasn't done much in the past year. I thought HSC VI was enough to convince him he should pack up the keyboard. I guess not though, so good luck to him. But what Zenbrez isn't harsh at all...it's realistic.


Agreed, not sure why dropping out in the first stage of Homestory after only winning a series against ToD counted as the "results" to continue playing
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
January 13 2013 23:34 GMT
#78
On January 14 2013 08:20 Zenbrez wrote:
The only post he makes in his own thread he says he has a better mindset then whines about balance. I'm all for foreigners trying to make it happen for them, but stop blaming the race.


You play zerg dont you?
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
January 13 2013 23:43 GMT
#79
On January 14 2013 08:22 JustPassingBy wrote:
Gl hf! What is the state of the italian sc2 scene btw? Are there any dominating teams like e.g. Millenium for France?


I don't know anything about the players or teams, but I know that they have Vasa, who is a pretty damn sexy caster. (I don't understand Italian. But he can use his voice very well.)

Hope the move brings you everything you're looking for, Cloud. Also, think you'll be in the Vasacast tournament?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 23:47:53
January 13 2013 23:47 GMT
#80
On January 14 2013 08:43 felisconcolori wrote:



Hope the move brings you everything you're looking for, Cloud. Also, think you'll be in the Vasacast tournament?


Yes he will play in the Vasacast Invitational. The first 3 invited players are Cloud, Snute and Kas. (the other 13 are unknown, they reveal 3 each week)

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