EPTI've played all races to low masters (not bragging, I know this is terrible), and now play random. Are you suggesting the overwhelming amount of code S level terrans are all a fluke?
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
I've played all races to low masters (not bragging, I know this is terrible), and now play random. Are you suggesting the overwhelming amount of code S level terrans are all a fluke? | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 13 2013 20:01 Martijn wrote: Last time I posted a joke at clouds expense, he cursed me out on skype and removed me.. I guess we can safely say dignitas isn't a very likely option. Ideally for Cloud we're talking teams like millenium, mouz, but I don't see them interested. I could see him ending up with a team like Infused. You can't neglect the experience and reputation that he has build up over the years, yeah he's got a volatile personality, but it's still better than being an unknown. Even if he hasn't won any titles, he's often present at many events, making it through qualifiers and what not. He could give a team some good face time. Edit: I thought he didn't like living in Italy though, am I remembering that wrong? Spent new years at the Amalfi Coast which was nothing short of amazing, but Napels was a stark contrast with parts of it being quite rundown. I hope you end up in a good area. Also make sure you have stream worthy internet, obviously that increases a players value. I think we can rule out dignitas for now, considering what happened when Tefel was recruited. Then again, dignitas signed Ourk and there's history between him and Bling too so who knows. Empire, FXO eu, maybe. I'd agree with Karont3 being a good fit though. Edit: Why are people making such a big deal about him being BM or not? There's absolutely no point in denying he has a history of being bad mannered, sure, but why do people think it matters this much? This whole discussion about him being BM or not is a waste of space. Since he called Goswser a patchzerg, I think we can consider this hypothesis as quite unlikely. | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:53 Zenbrez wrote: I've played all races to low masters (not bragging, I know this is terrible), and now play random. Are you suggesting the overwhelming amount of code S level terrans are all a fluke? Wait, what foreign terrans are in code S? none | ||
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:53 Zenbrez wrote: I've played all races to low masters (not bragging, I know this is terrible), and now play random. Are you suggesting the overwhelming amount of code S level terrans are all a fluke? Depends, if you are on sc2 all day everyday nerding it up hardcore then yes low masters is terrible. If you are leading a productive life and also in low masters then that is pretty good really. Last seasons gsl season; http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_S_Statistics More Terrans but win rates for Zerg are on the crazy side, not that I like balance whine from pros too much myself even when the stats back them up. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:58 skatblast wrote: Wait, what foreign terrans are in code S? none Wait, what difference is there between a foreigner and a korean? Nothing, they're both humans with the exact same capabilities. Not only that, but playing terran on KR server have the same stats as on NA/EU.. I can't believe you're arguing this. Dozens of terrans prove they can compete at the highest level, and you're defending Cloud's inability to get past the first round of any tournament because of imbalances? Depends, if you are on sc2 all day everyday nerding it up hardcore then yes low masters is terrible. If you are leading a productive life and also in low masters then that is pretty good really. Last seasons gsl season; (Wiki)2012 Global StarCraft II League Season 5/Code S Statistics More Terrans but win rates for Zerg are on the crazy side, not that I like balance whine from pros too much myself even when the stats back them up. I play ~3 games a day, in the grand scheme of things, low masters is quite terrible, but for my surposes, as a personal accomplishment I'm quite proud. But you're right, there's no need to argue. This'll be my last post in this thread | ||
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Geo.Rion
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On January 14 2013 09:16 Geo.Rion wrote: Cloud is one of those progamers i've never seen winning anything, yet i know he made tens of thousands of dollars from sc2 from minor/medium local and online tournaments + sponsorship. Tens of thousands tho? source? i just used TLs database and with rounding up / being nice hes made around 4000-4200 USD in total prize money from when he started playing to present day. Had one win awhile ago for 2000 USD. But if you have these source of the "tens of thousands of dollars" and can quote me a source for his income from sponsors I will be glad to change my post. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:58 skatblast wrote: Wait, what foreign terrans are in code S? none Well, I guess that proves it... | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On January 14 2013 09:37 LimeNade wrote: Tens of thousands tho? source? i just used TLs database and with rounding up / being nice hes made around 4000-4200 USD in total prize money from when he started playing to present day. Had one win awhile ago for 2000 USD. But if you have these source of the "tens of thousands of dollars" and can quote me a source for his income from sponsors I will be glad to change my post. http://sc2earnings.com/ around 11k? | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On January 14 2013 09:37 LimeNade wrote: Tens of thousands tho? source? i just used TLs database and with rounding up / being nice hes made around 4000-4200 USD in total prize money from when he started playing to present day. Had one win awhile ago for 2000 USD. But if you have these source of the "tens of thousands of dollars" and can quote me a source for his income from sponsors I will be glad to change my post. in one post or something he talked about unpaid winnings and that was several K, so i just made an estimate based on that. Could be wrong + German and Italian LANs are quite well priced afaik even if the competition is light | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
Either way, I wish you the best. Fighting! | ||
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cArn-
Korea (South)824 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:53 Zenbrez wrote: I've played all races to low masters (not bragging, I know this is terrible), and now play random. Are you suggesting the overwhelming amount of code S level terrans are all a fluke? Little fact in Korea that people don't know when they point at Korean Terrans : you can play Starcraft II without buying the game from PC cafes using your korean bnet account, but you can only play Terran. Now if you're still surprised Korea produces so many Terrans despite balance issues ... I don't know Anyway I'm not worried for ClouD at all his mindset seems to be perfect right now to be honest, but no mindset will change facts such as current balance. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On January 14 2013 10:04 cArn- wrote: Little fact in Korea that people don't know when they point at Korean Terrans : you can play Starcraft II without buying the game from PC cafes using your korean bnet account, but you can only play Terran. Now if you're still surprised Korea produces so many Terrans despite balance issues ... I don't know Anyway I'm not worried for ClouD at all his mindset seems to be perfect right now to be honest, but no mindset will change facts such as current balance. dafaq? U can multi-player as terran? but only as terran? How did this come to be | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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Starshaped
Sweden575 Posts
On January 14 2013 10:21 NexCa wrote: has he achieved anything since he came to Germany ? no | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:54 Boucot wrote: Since he called Goswser a patchzerg, I think we can consider this hypothesis as quite unlikely. I guess the challenge here is to find whatever bridges haven't been burned yet.. | ||
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On January 13 2013 16:05 ChrysaliS_ wrote: Why do people still care about awful foreigners who never put up results? You happen to be the 2nd person from the US who states something along those lines, enough for me to quote (not to you personally but all of those people). ClouD is probably still better than 80% of the N/A players so I wouldn't call him awful. He's not successful but that doesn't equal being awful. There are tons of players being unsuccessful but are not even mediocre to begin with. The deeper you go into skill-regions the harder it gets. Look at Korea. There are tons of players who would demolish EU stars and are unsuccessful. | ||
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