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1) austinmcc 2) da0ud 3) djodref 4) kushm4sta 5) Hopeless1der 6) Thrawn2112 7) Mementoss 8) VisceraEyes First of all, austin gotta die. Mementoss is one of the towniest motherfuckers in the game now that he's active (I'm inclined to believe that he was genuinely absent, considering his piss-poor showing in Liquid City, no offense intended). It's the townie Mementoss I've been waiting for all my life. The level of WIFOM/Meta austin is employing now that his case is failing is bordering "Legendary". As for the case itself, as Mementoss has pointed out, the main points are things he himself is guilty of, making his jabs look diversionary at best and scummy as fuck at worst. I can similarly get behind a da0ud lynch, mainly because he looked scummy while I was following along, and now that I've reread nothing has really changed that. I prefer Austin though, so there you have it. Everyone should go read Mementoss' case against Dj - it's compelling. The 'smiley'-tell is my favorite (though probably the weakest) part. He just seems to interested in putting on a townie face without doing his townie duty. He was lower on my list, but Mementoss' case put him up there for me. Again, I apologize this isn't as expansive and comprehensive as I'm sure you all expect. I'll answer all questions and respond to posts later on, when I'm not being paid to do something else. Ciao. | ||
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On October 11 2012 00:17 austinmcc wrote: I think I've been suspicious of townMementoss in every game I've played with him, something he does always gives me a mafia read on him. However, he's not dumb as town. I don't care if you're sober or high or on PCP while playing this game. I found it tremendously difficult in LC to wade through all your posting to find the bits that I thought were well-reasoned or interesting or could give me an actual read on you. I'm all for silliness in these games, but if it's just constant in every post then it's going to hamstring your effectiveness as town because people either won't pay attention to you or won't bother to pick out the good points you make from among the bad. austinmcc is well aware of his bias toward Mementoss. The way he's tunneling now is indicative of an agenda imo. I feel like if he were town, this would factor in more and he'd be less sure of his read on Mementoss. Think about it. If townMementoss is always suspicious to austin, then why would he say "he's not dumb as town"? It seems to me that someone I consistently think does anti-town things as town, I'd think that person is dumb. It just doesn't even make sense - it's like a weak way to buddy up Mementoss early on. And then he goes full on tunnel-mode on 'toss today? I wasn't here for all the vote-stuff D1. I was kinda following along, but I was being obliterated in Liquid City at the time. And in the name of transpareny, I've mostly skimmed D1 as a result and looked at voting summaries in the following cycles. Not a whole lot of it pertains to austin, but the manner in which he voted was scummy as shit imo. Selling votes? And did you guys read this? On October 14 2012 03:46 austinmcc wrote: I don't want to lose a town sandroba. I'm not convinced either way on his alignment, and he's a big asset if he's town. But I don't want to deal with either having him around late game after this D1, OR having to deal with a replacement catching up on 96 hours and then us having to read the replacement while not having much to go off of from ON's time in thread. To the extent that voting ON for concerns other than "ON scummiest" is a policy lynch, then yeah, I'm in favor of policy lynching him. Right now it's more just weighing what I think of each vs what they each bring. If I'm not convinced on either's alignment, then I'd rather take the chance that we have townsandroba who's useful than townON who isn't right now. If all this meta talk is true, scumsandroba is not particular active and nasty, whereas VE is the first replacement, and I feel like scumVE replacing in for ON might be nastier. So...I'd rather have townsand over townON. I'd rather have scumON dead than scumsand D1. Based on that, I'd rather flip ON if I'm not sure about the two of them. Not only is he wishywashy as fuck for the whole thing, but he even factors me in, someone not even playing to justify his indecision. Give me a BREAK. Yeah guys, austin is scum. But that does remind me. On October 18 2012 06:35 austinmcc wrote: VE, when you catch up or do something, I'd like your thoughts on the following: (1) Why sandroba N1? (2) Why ET N2? (3) Do those NKs tell you anything about the identities of the remaining mafia? (4) Mementoss or Mementoss or Mementoss? 1) Because sandroba was very obviously and unquestionably town and is routinely able to decimate scumteams - but take that for what it's worth..the word of someone who replaced into the game late. Sand has a distinct scum meta that he was very obviously not playing this game. Obviously a smart guy like Sandroba is aware of how to subvert his meta, but that doesn't stop him from NOT doing so anytime he rolls scum (to my chagrin in Liar Game...) 2) ET is less obvious, but I'd have to say that for whatever reason, scum either wanted town to believe something that he said before he died, or wanted to make town believe something about ET that he couldn't protest because he's dead. ET isn't really known for his ability to nail scum, but he's no slouch. It could be for any number of reasons. 3) Obviously they tell me that there's someone who's played with Sandroba - or is aware enough of his reputation to know what to do with a townSandroba. They also tell me that at least one remaining scum member (possible the one in charge, probably the one I was just talking about) likes to play games with town. It tells me that there's someone relatively experienced on the scumteam. 4) I agree with others' assessment of his play - that his early contributions were solid enough, that he dropped of in activity (corroborated, I confirmed him in Liquid City and he didn't do shit) but came back looking just as townie if not more so (imo). I hope that's been helpful brudda. Now swing. | ||
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Not to mention the fact that he's all about this whole "whatever I've got my one scumread, that's all that matters" thing he's on now which is a playstyle which varies WILDLY from the haphazard vote-sharing, apathetic style of D1. Why the change in style? Especially considering we lynched SCUM on D1! It all just feels wrong, and he's by far my best read. | ||
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On October 19 2012 12:54 da0ud wrote: Mementoss, I am wondering if you coming 10min before the deadline in order to try to save Austin is not a proof of you being scum. It leaves us not enough time to change drastically the destiny of Austin. This gives you town credit. However, if you don't get NKed now for being the only one to push Austin out of a mislynch, you will look even scummier to me. I am trying to understand if it would make sense for the scum team not to kill you overnight if you were town. Yeah....this might be the scummiest post in the thread. There's no townie motivation for stating the bolded in-thread during the night phase. This looks like planting a seed to me - like you're scum planning to leave Mementoss alive to try and mislynch him. I still very much think that Mementoss is town, and I think any possible medics should flip a coin between he and I tonight. I'm trying REALLY HARD not to take On October 19 2012 10:35 kushm4sta wrote: Let's lynch Thrawn. -wishy washy as fuck. -doesn't even know who his scumreads are. Or let's lynch VE. -told us to lynch austin. -wasn't here all day. -mislynched me in Liquid City. Or we could lynch me. -bad at this game. Those are my 3 top scumreads guys. Also 1der let's lynch him because he seems really angry at me. this as a scumclaim considering Kush's play in LC. The italicized leads me to believe that I'm seeing the same newbie emotional town shit that I mistook for scummy manipulation last game. Along with Da0 who is definitely NOT going to kill Mementoss tonight, I'm interested in a Djod lynch tomorrow. I'll post a case before the day starts, but considering his retarded VE tunnel yesterday when I was in no danger of being lynched, especially since he was doing nothing to convince town to do it, and the vote thing Mementoss pointed out in putting himself higher than Da0 is pretty much gg for me. I'm almost giddy at the thought of the lynch mechanic tomorrow.[/sarcasm] | ||
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Your points against Hiro point DIRECTLY to inactive...which, WHOA SHIT THAT'S THE GUY I REPLACED! That CONFIRMS inactive. You're trying to attribute scumminess to things that were possibly out of his control because he went AFK AND I REPLACED THE GUY! You say he "cast scummy shadow on prplhz for voting Sandro"? Why is that indicative of scum? I had a townread on Sandro from when I was following along AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME! Does that make me scum FROM OUTSIDE THE FUCKING GAME?! And a guy isn't allowed to have SCUMREADS EITHER?! Is anyone listening to this guy? Or can we just agree that he's the lynch tomorrow so the mechanic isn't even a fucking issue? Because I'm tired of being tunneled to death on this clown's horrible reasoning and the fact that he pursued it all while austin was in his #2 spot while I was one of the loudest voices in opposition of austin leads me to believe that there are fucking shenannies afoot. | ||
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-.- See you postgame bra | ||
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 I have NO fucking idea why I'm being pardoned...but the fact that it says "has been Pardoned" leads me to believe that it's a power, not mechanic, and the lack of claim leads me to believe that it's mafia, not town, that aimed it at me. It's possible that a town Pardoner hasn't claimed because they have more uses than just the one...but that seems OP and probably would have been revealed before now. My money is on mafia. The question now is why. Dj tunneling me ad nauseum comes to mind. It basically confirms me as scum to him, as his posts indicate. That actually leads me to believe that he's town. If he's scum, there's no fucking way I would have been the target of a scum Pardoner. I'm going back to reread Dj later with this in mind - this is pretty fucking big and changes almost everything I was thinking. On the lynch mechanic, I agree with Dj on the friend vote. Because it's public, it will force scum to either vote for themselves or risk drawing attention to themselves. I assume I may not vote for myself, however, so take that for what it's worth I guess. :/ On Hopeless1der, I agree that it's very unlikely that he's scum. He's not on the docket as far as I'm concerned. Nor is Dj based on the Pardoner thing...that may not mean anything to you guys, but it pretty much confirms him as town to me...so I'm going to finish looking over Da0 (I was in the middle of his filter when I left for work) and then look over Thrawn and kush. Of the three, kush seems the towniest. Pending filtration, Thrawn looks the worst. Mementoss' case is...........long. I haven't read all of it yet. I've read some of it, but I'm really not factoring it in until I read it all and filter the guy...not in that order. | ||
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Will post when I get home tonight. Can't promise sobriety, though. lol I did look over Da0 and Thrawn. I'm more convinced of a Da0 lynch and less convinced of a Thrawn lynch after rereading, but can lynch either one. I just prefer Da0. Still not interested in a Dj lynch. | ||
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