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Tyler73123
Profile Joined July 2011
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 16:25:38
June 29 2012 23:37 GMT
#1


The video above explains the build, common follow ups, and additional tips and tricks. I highly recommend watching it as well as reading below.

This build is rarely used on ladder. During my whole Starcraft history, I've only ran into this build once, which means many people won't have much experience vs it.

I go over some common follow ups, which are mainly:
Proxy gate(s)
They chrono zealots and play the catchup game (not as common)
They either forge expand or regular expand
If they have a probe in your base, they might double gas steal you.

It is very important that you wall off, so that you can scout for an incoming probe that will in-base proxy 2 gate you. It also helps to defend proxy gate(s) after you steal both gasses as you can full wall off with a canon if you choose to do so.

Maps that this works on:
Cloud Kingdom (in 1v1 ladder pool)
Dual Sight
Sanshorn Mist

This build can work on other 2 player maps where the gasses are far apart, but the risk is that they can quickly take the gas on the opposite side. On 4 player maps it is possible, but you will have to send out 2 probes (assuming no close position spawns). It's probably not worth it on 4 player maps in my opinion.

Tip: Take the gas closest to their mineral line first in case they extremely quickly take their other gas.

Replays:
http://drop.sc/209978 - Replay used in this video. I go 4 gate warp prism vs his forge expand.

http://drop.sc/209979 - He double gas steals me back because I didn't take my own gas soon enough. Some BM at the end, I recommend using the mature language filter.

Me doing a live commentary over double gas steal -


I will add more replays as time goes on, or if you have any please private message me them and I will add them here! Thanks!
MrTD
Profile Joined June 2012
United States12 Posts
June 29 2012 23:39 GMT
#2
Nice tutorial, I'll try this in my next PvP
-Zao-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States42 Posts
June 30 2012 00:12 GMT
#3
What league is this?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
June 30 2012 00:15 GMT
#4
I've successfully done this in diamond league like a year ago lol. People would get so confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Tombomb
Profile Joined June 2012
United States52 Posts
June 30 2012 00:18 GMT
#5
Had this thrown at me probably about a year ago I'd say. I just about did a 360 in my chair, its pretty effective.

@Tyler##### nice tutorial video, very well done.
Ever had someone cannon rush you in response? Short of expanding and praying for a longer game thats the only response I can think of that has any chance of working.
"If someone tells you to do something for money, tell them to go to hell"
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
June 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#6
And here is how to defend it: http://drop.sc/181028
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
June 30 2012 00:26 GMT
#7
Thank you Cecil. Now that this guide has been posted I give it a very high chance I will face it in the next few days, despite only seeing it once before in my life.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Tyler73123
Profile Joined July 2011
67 Posts
June 30 2012 00:36 GMT
#8
On June 30 2012 09:18 Tombomb wrote:
Had this thrown at me probably about a year ago I'd say. I just about did a 360 in my chair, its pretty effective.

@Tyler##### nice tutorial video, very well done.
Ever had someone cannon rush you in response? Short of expanding and praying for a longer game thats the only response I can think of that has any chance of working.


Cannon rush in response? If they were to do it after I double gas steal them, by the time they get a forge and try to cannon rush, I've already got a zealot out and it's pretty easy to defend.
Tombomb
Profile Joined June 2012
United States52 Posts
June 30 2012 00:45 GMT
#9
touche
"If someone tells you to do something for money, tell them to go to hell"
Tyler73123
Profile Joined July 2011
67 Posts
June 30 2012 00:50 GMT
#10
On June 30 2012 09:23 CecilSunkure wrote:
And here is how to defend it: http://drop.sc/181028


Watched the replay, wbc made quite a few mistakes. He took a really bold expansion off just two gates, got supply blocked, and made some pretty big micro mistakes in his push. Not to insult wbc, but had he played it out differently he would've been ahead.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
June 30 2012 01:00 GMT
#11
On June 30 2012 09:23 CecilSunkure wrote:
And here is how to defend it: http://drop.sc/181028


That timing with the sentry was pretty thin. And the gas stealing player basically messed up as much as possible in his attack. But it was funny to watch nonetheless.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
-Zao-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States42 Posts
June 30 2012 01:02 GMT
#12
This is terrible.

The only good use I can see maybe working once is if you dbl gas steal and then go for a 4gate.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Scurvy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States117 Posts
June 30 2012 01:17 GMT
#13
I have tried to double gas steal as Zerg against Protoss a few times, and in general I have found it to be very effective. Even though I lose two drones, it is worth it in the way that it completely changes your opponent's strategy, and forces some crazy response. If you do it right of course.
With it or on it.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 01:31:38
June 30 2012 01:31 GMT
#14
if you see 9 scout ,why not putting a probe near gas gayser to block gas stealing ? you are economicaly ahead anyway since he pulled the probe to scout at 9 . isant that a easier way to deal with it ?
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
June 30 2012 01:38 GMT
#15
On June 30 2012 10:17 Scurvy wrote:
I have tried to double gas steal as Zerg against Protoss a few times, and in general I have found it to be very effective. Even though I lose two drones, it is worth it in the way that it completely changes your opponent's strategy, and forces some crazy response. If you do it right of course.


Do you do this against FFE or just gate expand or one base play? When FFE'ing it seems like for most gas timings you could just take the gas at your natural and have units out by the time you need to take your third and fourth gas.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
June 30 2012 01:40 GMT
#16
On June 30 2012 10:00 EatThePath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 09:23 CecilSunkure wrote:
And here is how to defend it: http://drop.sc/181028


That timing with the sentry was pretty thin. And the gas stealing player basically messed up as much as possible in his attack. But it was funny to watch nonetheless.

You don't need a Sentry. I could have made some Stalkers instead
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
June 30 2012 01:54 GMT
#17
On June 30 2012 10:17 Scurvy wrote:
I have tried to double gas steal as Zerg against Protoss a few times, and in general I have found it to be very effective. Even though I lose two drones, it is worth it in the way that it completely changes your opponent's strategy, and forces some crazy response. If you do it right of course.


Hahaha, they didn't just nexus first, get two cannons and then take gas at their nat? It should only really delay the 20 supply double gas that's the norm for a max of like 45 seconds. xD
A time to live.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 02:13:17
June 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#18
The delay against FFE as Zerg might provide a timing attack that uses the WG timing delay, even though I am not sure if its worth it.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 02:09:39
June 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#19
Yeah this build is very frustrating ot play against. I usualyl just chrono zealtos out and rally them to the other guy's base. THey usually don't have enough micro to deal with it, even though they will usually have a zealot out by that time. Just make sure you have at least 1 zealot on kill probe patrol and you should be okay. I think I even solmetimes just take my gas at my nat and just sticka s hit ton of probes on it sometimes lol.

I've faced this about 4x in masters. went 2-2
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
June 30 2012 02:14 GMT
#20
LOL! nice idea, taking gas at the nat and getting 50 gas for WG tech then going korean 4gate would be really cool thing to do
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