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Scarlett in Iron Lady Cup and IMO big problem

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PsychoPriest
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
April 29 2012 18:08 GMT
#1
At the beginning I want to underline one thing. This topic isn't suppose to be offensive, rude, racist, homophobic or whatever you want. I just feel awful disgust after last Iron Lady Cup which I observed. Now, to the meritum.

As everyone knows, Scarlett is a man, who feels like a woman, and I'm 100% ok with that. Sometimes life is like that, you was born a female in male body. BUT there is one problem in my opinion. Why she is allowed to play girls tournaments? Now, why I am asking this question? Its simple. A man who wants to be woman, takes even hormone treatment ISNT ALLOWED to participate for example olympics for women. From obvious reasons. Man has better physical conditions than women and its just simply unfair for the rest. IMO same is in Starcraft. There are many girls who can compete with man on high level (female bonjwa Aphrodite, Maddie, CadenZa, Eve, Sakura, Flo) BUT this girls will probably never be as good as male progamers.

Conclusion: I just find it very unfair to allow a male player to play in ladies tournamets and wins them. I hope you understand my point of view and I won't be hatred by anybody, because as I mentioned before, Im totally ok with Scarlett, I respect her, wish her best, accepts her decisions and I'm not trying to be offensive.

Please think about it... Love and hugs

User was temp banned for this post.
Only a zerg can beat another zerg
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#2
The organizers left her in, no one else's business
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#3
This thread is disgusting and your opinion on the subject is both inflammatory and hurtful. Shame on you.
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Cdprojects
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada14 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#4
Dafuq I just read?
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#5
The tournament organizer knows it. The other players of the tournament know it. They have no problem with it. end of discussion
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#6
Starcraft 2 is a game where girls do not have any specific advantage in terms of physicality.

In my opinion girls tournaments are more for getting girls into the game than showing off female talent. Its more a mental thing why there is not as many female progamers. So in my opinion it dosent really matter.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
April 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#7
I think the point is that Scarlett has the mind of a woman, and sc is all about the mind, not the body.
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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
April 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#8
You spent your first posts talking about this? Interesting choice...
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#9
tournament organizers let her in like people are saying. get off your high horse.
PsychoPriest
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
April 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#10
Well, I think you didn't get the main problem. What if somebody will want to cheat organizer next time and will try to fake such thing? Free cash if he is a better player...? Please, don't kill me for this thread -_-
Only a zerg can beat another zerg
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
April 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#11
Here's to hoping this thread gets closed.
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FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#12
1. The organizers of the tournament INVITED HER.

2. men and women are separated in the olympics because physically the men are much more dominant. In starcraft 2 men are more dominant because there must be a 90-1 ratio of males to females, not because physically we are any better at the game.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
April 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#13
On April 30 2012 03:10 rotegirte wrote:
The tournament organizer knows it. The other players of the tournament know it. They have no problem with it. end of discussion


Agreed with this

And this topic has been discussed to death anyway, bringing it up again won't help anyone ^^
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
gape.ninja
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan249 Posts
April 29 2012 18:13 GMT
#14
Close this thread, smh...
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 29 2012 18:13 GMT
#15
On April 30 2012 03:10 Anacletus wrote:
This thread is disgusting and your opinion on the subject is both inflammatory and hurtful. Shame on you.


What a fine citizen of liberal democracy we have here, folks.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 29 2012 18:13 GMT
#16
Im totally ok with Scarlett, I respect her, wish her best, accepts her decisions and I'm not trying to be offensive.


I always thought it was funny when someone said something that was pretty clearly going to be offensive to a large group of people and then said "i'm not trying to be offensive" at the end of it, like it somehow makes it okay.
Maruprime.
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#17
dont you have other problems to think about....
SDMF
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:15:05
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#18
On April 30 2012 03:12 PsychoPriest wrote:
Well, I think you didn't get the main problem. What if somebody will want to cheat organizer next time and will try to fake such thing? Free cash if he is a better player...? Please, don't kill me for this thread -_-

are you aware of any such thing? because that certainly didnt happen here.

edit: also, this tournament was for like $200 and a mouse. not like its even that large of a tournament that people would be willing to destroy their reputation to enter.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#19
Scarlett IS a female, born in a male body, but her brain is female.
Your brain is what you are. Your body is just a bag of meat to support the brain with oxygen, input via senses, and limbs to move the brain around.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
PsychoPriest
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#20
On April 30 2012 03:13 Corrosive wrote:
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Im totally ok with Scarlett, I respect her, wish her best, accepts her decisions and I'm not trying to be offensive.


I always thought it was funny when someone said something that was pretty clearly going to be offensive to a large group of people and then said "i'm not trying to be offensive" at the end of it, like it somehow makes it okay.



Where is ANYTHING offensive I said about Scarlett?
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