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VisceraEyes
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On March 27 2012 04:03 Dirkzor wrote: I betting that VE and Blazinghand have 50% of the post by the end of day1. =) 5 silver liquid money on that! If that weren't against the rules, I'd take that bet. | ||
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I'm trying out a new style this game, etc. etc. I'm almost ALWAYS watching the thread, even if I'm not posting, etc. etc. | ||
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ATTENTION SCUM! IT WILL BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO PUT ME ON THE BACK FOOT IMMEDIATELY! IF YOU ATTEMPT TO HIDE I WILL FIND YOU! That being said, I'm in favor of lynching a lurker if we can't find a good scum candidate (fat chance) and I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Lynching is for killing scum, not for punishing "bad play". "But VE, isn't lynching a lurker the same thing as lynching to punish bad play?" No kind sir, lurking isn't just bad play...lurking is a very viable strategy that scum often employ to hide. For my part, I'll be keeping my eye on C_C and to a lesser extent BH due to them being among the only names I recognize as players who have played more than like 2 games here. This is one of the first games I've played where the average experience level is so low...so I'm probably not going to be on the offensive as much this game...but I make no guarantees. | ||
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On March 27 2012 07:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: As town, it's hard to stay with a solid stance. Games change, and ultimately these little things never seem to come up anyway. As mafia, having a solid stance and sticking with it is basically a free pass. Ultimately, 'lurking' and 'lying' are only a fraction of a persons play. However, if it's a stance you want: In my experience, the moment you bother lynching the lurkers is the moment you know mafia are in control of the game, especially if it's done sooner. If we can conclusively prove someone was lying, that person should be suspect in the first place, and automatically be rated higher than lurkers. /salute I was really referring to your underhanded accusation of my first post, but I appreciate your opinions on the matters I brought up earlier. I kinda disagree on the bolded statement though. While it's harder to catch scum who have conviction in their posts, the fact of the matter is that they have to fake-scumhunt...so if someone is so adamant about their opinions, it will become clear pretty quickly if it's based on actual reasoning or if it's just a show. | ||
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On March 27 2012 08:27 slOosh wrote: It shouldn't be at all different no? Actually I've been meaning to ask a similar question. Does a closed-setup in general change basic scumhunting principles or do they just allow/favor different styles of play? All a closed setup means is that you should be extremely skeptical of roleclaims because scum likely either know more about the setup than we do or are more willing to gambit on a fake-claim. Otherwise, most scumhunting tactics should remain about the same. If something is suspicious, call it out. | ||
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On March 27 2012 09:33 Bluelightz wrote: Err, I'm here guys like everyone else, I don't like policy lynches. Busting out Fixed that for ya.  Nothing suspicious so far Blue? Not even by 'early' standards? | ||
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On March 27 2012 09:52 Nemesis wrote: Yo VE why you so scum this game, I'm getting my gun ready for you. Maybe if you accompanied your question with reasoning as to why I'm "so scum this game" instead of empty threats, I'd be more inclined to answer your question fully. What part of my play so far indicates that I'm "so scum"? | ||
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On March 27 2012 10:21 EchelonTee wrote: ayo, I've played like 6 games. most of the people here are over 3 games, don't get all tunnel vision'd worrying about vets b/c it's the less conspicious new scum who will slip by. be on the offensive, I like the feisty VE more than whatever else you'd pull out Oh ET, how could I have missed your name? I'll be sure to keep an overly scrutinizing eye on you as well if it makes you feel better. No, my feist-level should be about average - I was more referring to my activity level. But, as you can tell, that shouldn't be much of an issue either. | ||
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On March 27 2012 11:24 gonzaw wrote: Got back from uni. Let's hunt some nazis. I doubt I need to ask 100 questions to everybody, considering this is a smaller game, so don't worry about that too much. I'll try not to "hurt your eyes" this time  I think it's obvious that nobody likes lurkers, but lurking alone doesn't mean they should be lynched immediately. It just means you need to call them out, make them contribute, and put them under more scrutiny than other players, since they can easily fly unnoticed. @VE: I have to agree with johnny here, why do you prod someone about taking stances 1 post into the game? Even as pressure that doesn't seem very helpful. Also, I'd recomend nobody even slightly hint what nationality they are from. As far as I know, town don't get ANY information whatsoever if someone is US or SU, but scum can use that info to try and get their alternative win-con. So no nationality claims, nor any hint to them. If you have to claim just claim your role and nothing else. I'll prod whomever I want whenever I want for whatever reason whether you think it's helpful for you or not gonzaw. Now, let's talk about this generic/obvious advice you gave. I know why you did it (glare @ C_C) but the part that concerns me is bolded in your quote. As a member of town, I happen to know for a FACT that I don't know what "nationality" people are. So that begs the question...why preface your "advice" with the statement "As far as I know..."? It seems to me like you're trying too hard to appear clueless. | ||
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On March 27 2012 11:48 Sinensis wrote: Also, I work every day from at least 5pm to 10pm EST. I will post very consistently after work near 10pm. So VisceraEyes, "what's" "with" "all" "these" "quotation" "marks" you use whenever you talk about "liars" or "scum" or "bad play"? Several Examples + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 07:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Cool guys, am I really one of the only "vets" in this game? ATTENTION SCUM! IT WILL BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO PUT ME ON THE BACK FOOT IMMEDIATELY! IF YOU ATTEMPT TO HIDE I WILL FIND YOU! That being said, I'm in favor of lynching a lurker if we can't find a good scum candidate (fat chance) and I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Lynching is for killing scum, not for punishing "bad play". "But VE, isn't lynching a lurker the same thing as lynching to punish bad play?" No kind sir, lurking isn't just bad play...lurking is a very viable strategy that scum often employ to hide. For my part, I'll be keeping my eye on C_C and to a lesser extent BH due to them being among the only names I recognize as players who have played more than like 2 games here. This is one of the first games I've played where the average experience level is so low...so I'm probably not going to be on the offensive as much this game...but I make no guarantees. On March 27 2012 08:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, lying is situational and obviously we need to scrutinze any inconsistencies we find...but lynching by policy anyone found to have been untruthful about anything? Not today sir. Not ever as far as I'm concerned. If someone is scummy because they lied, they should be scummy for other reasons. If someone's lying is the only thing that makes them "scummy", then I'm not on-board with a lynch of said person. That's what I meant by "I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Policy lynches, on the whole, are a bad idea and allow scum to control the lynch. On March 27 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe if you accompanied your question with reasoning as to why I'm "so scum this game" instead of empty threats, I'd be more inclined to answer your question fully. What part of my play so far indicates that I'm "so scum"? On March 27 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll prod whomever I want whenever I want for whatever reason whether you think it's helpful for you or not gonzaw. Now, let's talk about this generic/obvious advice you gave. I know why you did it (glare @ C_C) but the part that concerns me is bolded in your quote. As a member of town, I happen to know for a FACT that I don't know what "nationality" people are. So that begs the question...why preface your "advice" with the statement "As far as I know..."? It seems to me like you're trying too hard to appear clueless. What a perfectly useless "question"! Perhaps I have "quotation tourettes" and can't help "myself". Perhaps I'm "communicating" with my "scum-team" in code, in spite of the fact that if I were scum I'd have a "quicktopic" or something to "communicate" with them in. Perhaps you're trying to appear to be helpful. Perhaps you can comment on something useful. Perhaps not. <3 | ||
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I have a conversational style of posting, so if you see a word in quotes, you should envision me making finger-quotes around any single words that are in quotes...if that helps. | ||
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So no, that's not the intent at all. If it bothers you, I can try to tone it down, but I make no guarantees. I have a style of posting that works for me. | ||
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Now cut out the dramatics or I'll join the jubjubs and scum in lynching you...even if you're town. | ||
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