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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 03:56:08
February 27 2012 03:29 GMT
#1
MLG Winter Arena has now passed with praise generally ranging from good to great. However, that doesn't mean it was worth the price of admission. So that's the question: based on the good and the bad, will you subscribe to the next MLG Arena?

Good: Code S caliber player lineup, very good presentation, excellent commentary both ingame and postgame, tons of content, nice stream setup

Bad: Stream lag and the crash during the finals, login pop up bug, free stream bug, still some downtime, poor ending ceremony

How good or bad each individual thing was is a personal opinion, so it'd be better to not have arguments over how your stream didn't lag or that you hated Rob/JP/Wheat/whoever's casting. But given everything overall, was it worth $20 dollars and would you spend that much next time?

Poll: Will you subscribe to the next MLG Arena for $20?

No, and I didn't subscribe this time and I didn't watch (601)
 
40%

Yes, and subscribed this time (306)
 
20%

No, and I didn't subscribe this time but I still watched (270)
 
18%

Undecided and I didn't subscribe (91)
 
6%

No, and subscribed this time (85)
 
6%

Undecided and I subscribed (56)
 
4%

Yes, and I didn't subscribe this time and I didn't watch (54)
 
4%

Yes, and I didn't subscribe this time but I still watched (47)
 
3%

1510 total votes

Your vote: Will you subscribe to the next MLG Arena for $20?

(Vote): Yes, and subscribed this time
(Vote): Yes, and I didn't subscribe this time but I still watched
(Vote): Yes, and I didn't subscribe this time and I didn't watch
(Vote): No, and subscribed this time
(Vote): No, and I didn't subscribe this time but I still watched
(Vote): No, and I didn't subscribe this time and I didn't watch
(Vote): Undecided and I subscribed
(Vote): Undecided and I didn't subscribe


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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
February 27 2012 03:33 GMT
#2
Definately, best 20 bucks i ever spent
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
February 27 2012 03:34 GMT
#3
I suggest you add the "no-crowd feel" in the bad

like you said great event overall but the no crowd and poor ending left me a bleh feeling about it.
would be a doubt id buy for 10, but for 20idk so I voted undecided
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
February 27 2012 03:36 GMT
#4
No, not really. I liked it though but for 20 bucks and with all the issues they had I don´t think I would pay 20 bucks for that again.

I did subscribe this time though
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
dmasterding
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States205 Posts
February 27 2012 03:37 GMT
#5
most probably (definitely if they lower the prices a little ;D)

i am ashamed to say i watched for free using the ru.twitch.tv exploit thing for a bit, and LOVED what i saw - the production quality was absolutely fantastic. i want to make it up by getting the full experience next time :D
No tears now, only dreams.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 03:38:33
February 27 2012 03:37 GMT
#6
Unsure, still unconvinced. Yeah, it was awesome because the players are amazing. But MLG didn't add anything more besides a standard I already set and found in some other leagues and their production (+ they're free).

When you separate the good games and the players which don't really make the event different from all the others (though MLG paying for the expenses of the players to travel to this event does tip the scale in their favour) and look only at the production effects, then you can probably assess a price.

Loved the event, loved the players and the games. Didn't feel like there was anything "more" added that I could use anyways (given my bandwidth, I can't watch in HD and I can't watch multiple streams). So, I can't say if the 20$ was worth the event, I can say the features offered that I can't use in addition to removing the actual games to the overall production and performance of the event is not something I would pay for personally yet.
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Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
February 27 2012 03:38 GMT
#7
Would gladly pay again.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 03:44:15
February 27 2012 03:41 GMT
#8
I'll be waiting for the caster information before deciding. It just didn't live up to my expectations. On the whole, I thought Assembly's casting was much better. Much of the casting added very little to the games, and some of it made the games annoying to watch. I used mute more than I usually do.

The production quality was very good, but I wouldn't say it was excellent. The cast of players was incredible, but it actually seemed like there was less player coverage than usual. I think there was just one and sometimes two interviews for many (not all) of the players, which is a lot less extra coverage than I expected, given it took place in MLG's office and they had extra streams all the time.

The streaming interface and JTV definitely had issues as well, although I'm not sure how strongly that factors into my decision.
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Or30
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada4 Posts
February 27 2012 03:42 GMT
#9
I did not watch the event because i felt that 20 was a little to much for this. I regretnot doing it but i would subscribe to the next event but i seriously think that 10 dollars is a fair price and it could make more revenue for MLG itself because they would have a better turn out but next event i will definatly subscribe because it was a very good tournament from what i read... yes i read evverything that was posted
Nethermind
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand445 Posts
February 27 2012 03:44 GMT
#10
Subscribed, but needs to be a little cheaper for me to pay for it again, especially if doing 2 inside the next spring season.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
February 27 2012 03:44 GMT
#11
Seems highly unlikely. It depends almost entirely on the weekend for me. I'm quite busy, and unless it happened to line up with a weekend I would actually be able to sit around and watch most of it, I wouldn't pay to watch. With a free stream I can turn it on for a match here and a match there, but with a PPV model, that doesn't seem worth the cost to me.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
February 27 2012 03:44 GMT
#12
I subscribed this time and most likely will subscribe again.

This is not to say it was satisfactory, though, as I have an extreme beef with the poor casting quality. I am simply sick of NA casters who don't actually play the game at a high level. When I compare tumbasc and rotterdam, the former makes me cringe at everything he says.

Finality
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 03:45:42
February 27 2012 03:45 GMT
#13
I'll definitely subscribe to the next mlg event, but probably not one of these, and more like a MLG colombus/other town type of mlg event.

Edit: ignore other part it got fixed right when I posted.
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Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
February 27 2012 03:47 GMT
#14
Yes, if it's not $20.

If we're moving into a model where e-sports charges for the event/season/whatever, MLG has definitely demonstrated that their product is worth paying for (and still needs improvement, always), however...it's not worth $20.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 27 2012 03:48 GMT
#15
Didn't subscribed and won't unless there is a:
1. Some way to test to see if it is worth it (make a 1day deal or something)
2. Lower the price.
When i need to pay quite a bit of money (compared to other things i can spend my time on) and i have no way to test it you cannot expect me simply gamble.
Coated
Profile Joined August 2011
United States74 Posts
February 27 2012 03:50 GMT
#16
Undecided. A lot of things could happen between now and then. Still, a lot would have to be presented to get me to cough up $20 for something like this.
Another one bites the dust
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
February 27 2012 03:54 GMT
#17
Depending on the player list. Not a fan of the main casters they used this time, but that's not a dealbreaker for me. Sounded like there were some good games this time around (didn't watch) so if it's a similar list I'd be pumped. The only thing I'd like to see is daily passes. The one reason I didn't watch and pay this time was because one day I was out of the house, and the championship day is Monday morning at work for me.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
February 27 2012 03:54 GMT
#18
Payed the $20 and I was pretty impressed. Great production values and I loved the stream interface. Very cool how you could watch pretty much any game you wanted to with multiple streams. Even a news ticker at the bottom, really slick.

I kinda missed the crowd though... It made this event feel more like a homestory rather than an MLG but that has its own charm. Some stream issues in the finals was unfortunate too but not enough to spoil it for me.

“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
February 27 2012 03:55 GMT
#19
The lag enrages me.
Serendipityx
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States595 Posts
February 27 2012 03:57 GMT
#20
Yes, assuming its gonna be 10 or less for the next arena or they do something that really justifies the 20. I enjoyed watching it and I loved seeing drg crush opponent after opponent but I'd be hesitant to pay 20 again.
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