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zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 19:46:46
September 27 2011 01:38 GMT
#1
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Interactive help for the new to Starcraft 2 and those seeking to learn and go into a higher league


This is a project i'm launching for those who are truly new to Starcraft 2 and up to gold/platinum levels. There are lots of resources out there that are dedicated for learning Starcraft 2 but few that are truly personal interactive with the person being taught. Recently, i've done a few replay analysis videos of gold league players as well as a simple video talking about beginning play as terran. People can watch casts and be entertained with the great play but a trend in the lower leagues is that they dont know how to execute what they need to do.


So, heres the plan. I would like to make videos centered around the basics of each race and how to think about playing as that race. These are centered for the lower level, beginning, bronze, and some silver players. Beyond that, situational videos can be made from replays sent to me by people looking for help. Gold and platinum players should be able to learn more from tutorial videos that showcase builds and reacting. Each one can receive its own youtube video but to ensure the fullest possible amout learned the person who is being critiqued can message me during the critique with questions. I have access to both the NA server and EU server so I can help anybody on either.

Macro - A concept for all
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For terran there is the beginning video of-
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Terran Macro Help and How to
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TvZ Match Up Video
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For zerg -
For the true beginner -
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Zerg Macro Help and How to
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Some silver, Gold, plat
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For protoss -
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Protoss Macro Help and How to
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Here are two replay analysis videos that I did for people on my stream
Protoss -+ Show Spoiler +

Zerg - + Show Spoiler +



About me - I'm tQzander. I am a master league protoss player on the NA server and I random on the EU server as well. I commentate tournaments, clan wars, and professional replays and am in college to become a high school biology teacher. I enjoy teaching and helping people and want to bring that into Starcraft as I truly enjoy Starcraft as well. I have a few videos of myself playing with a first person view taken from my stream where I talk about what I do and how I go about it. Please let me know if there is a specific thing you would like to see and I'll do my best to go get it onto the internet for you

glhf!

Some more videos -

PvP - Defending 1 Base Colossus
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PvT - Mass upgrades, mass gateways, mass expand play
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTBv4iazDP0



PvZ - Mutalisk play on Shakuras
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN9RGbvCpl8



PvZ - No Colossi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKFdU1BN-rw

Another game, no commentary as of yet, just first person view -



PvZ - Heavy zerg map presence on Xel'Naga Caverns -
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PvZ - Another Xel'Naga Caverns and Part 1 of Games vs Slim
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PvZ - Another Game with Slim, Zerg from previous Xel'Naga Game
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PvZ - Large amount of blink stalker play -
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PvZ - Defend cheese and respond with ease
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PvZ - Macro into dual robo Colossus
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PvT on Tal'Darim Altar - 1 Gate Fast Expand into Mass Gateway Units
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How to Defend 6 Pool with Gateway first -
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Another teamliquider, MrJargon, sent me this video as an alternate to my above -



How to Defend 6 pool on Tal'Darim Altar
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Replay analysis -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgOWikRFnIU


FPVOD -





Risky Forge Fast Expand Gameplay -
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PvP Phoenix Play -
Game with constructive commentary -
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FPVOD of PvP Phoenix Play-
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The stream that I use is - twitch.tv/zanderfever
Youtube- youtube.com/zanderfeverSC
Twitter - twitter.com/zanderfeverSC
facebook page - facebook.com/zanderfeverSC
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 27 2011 01:58 GMT
#2
Some contact info -

email - zanderfever@gmail.com
SC2 NA - tqzander.959
SC2 EU - zanderfever.226
Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
September 27 2011 04:45 GMT
#3
While I appreciate the effort, and while the ones I watched (Terran/Zerg/Protoss, how to play) were interesting and informative, they weren't good for learning from nothing. They seem to take for granted that the person knows how to play in general, or at least have good mechanics. Having taught most of my friends how to play, that is an incredibly inefficient way to instruct.
Let them play around for a bit with units and how to do stuff, and then give them general ideas of what they want, and then the specifics. That at least has been the beneficial way for me to instruct. IDK but they've all jumped a league (those that ladder anyway) since I've helped them out.


Chernobyl
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil143 Posts
September 27 2011 05:53 GMT
#4
Very nice post, tanks a lot.

just a tip from a diamond noob.... SCOUT!
Your macro is wining the game, but you need to scout better.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 05:57:54
September 27 2011 05:55 GMT
#5
On September 27 2011 13:45 Hossinaut wrote:
While I appreciate the effort, and while the ones I watched (Terran/Zerg/Protoss, how to play) were interesting and informative, they weren't good for learning from nothing. They seem to take for granted that the person knows how to play in general, or at least have good mechanics. Having taught most of my friends how to play, that is an incredibly inefficient way to instruct.
Let them play around for a bit with units and how to do stuff, and then give them general ideas of what they want, and then the specifics. That at least has been the beneficial way for me to instruct. IDK but they've all jumped a league (those that ladder anyway) since I've helped them out.




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The OP stated that this is intended for gold/platinum level players, and for that i feel like the tutorials are perfect.


edit - misread. Yea i guess you're right about the newb thing. >_< I don't think a bronze player would look up tutorials though?
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 27 2011 15:14 GMT
#6
On September 27 2011 13:45 Hossinaut wrote:
While I appreciate the effort, and while the ones I watched (Terran/Zerg/Protoss, how to play) were interesting and informative, they weren't good for learning from nothing. They seem to take for granted that the person knows how to play in general, or at least have good mechanics. Having taught most of my friends how to play, that is an incredibly inefficient way to instruct.
Let them play around for a bit with units and how to do stuff, and then give them general ideas of what they want, and then the specifics. That at least has been the beneficial way for me to instruct. IDK but they've all jumped a league (those that ladder anyway) since I've helped them out.




Thanks, you make a good point. The tutorial videos are more gold/platinum while the beginner vidoes were supposed to be for the even lower level players. I'll edit the OP for more specificity.
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 27 2011 15:25 GMT
#7
On September 27 2011 14:53 Chernobyl wrote:
Very nice post, tanks a lot.

just a tip from a diamond noob.... SCOUT!
Your macro is wining the game, but you need to scout better.


A true fault in my play
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2557 Posts
September 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#8
I rly appreciate this and cant wait to soak up all the info here ^^
Thx for being awesome!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sc2trainer
Profile Joined August 2011
63 Posts
September 27 2011 16:47 GMT
#9
One thing I always wonder about on these forums is this: how many bronze players read this forum?

Aren't bronze players more casual and most don't ever read TL?

Because that would mean most won't see this post.

gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 16:58:36
September 27 2011 16:58 GMT
#10
I was bronze until this season and i was always reading TL to get better...with some success (since im not in bronze anymore)

i think lots of ppl read it but not many post because they are bronze players and might be intimidated
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 27 2011 17:12 GMT
#11
On September 28 2011 01:08 gTank wrote:
I rly appreciate this and cant wait to soak up all the info here ^^
Thx for being awesome!


I'm just hoping to help those who love Starcraft 2 Let me know if you have any questions or want me to make a video from a game you've lost and want to learn from.

On September 28 2011 01:47 sc2trainer wrote:
One thing I always wonder about on these forums is this: how many bronze players read this forum?

Aren't bronze players more casual and most don't ever read TL?

Because that would mean most won't see this post.



Don't underestimate the lurkers, the guys who dont post. A lot of people are drawn to TL through google and just searching for starcraft 2 help.

On September 28 2011 01:58 gTank wrote:
I was bronze until this season and i was always reading TL to get better...with some success (since im not in bronze anymore)

i think lots of ppl read it but not many post because they are bronze players and might be intimidated


Yep, my thoughts exactly
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 17:30:07
September 27 2011 17:29 GMT
#12
love the tQ guys Zander, and I actually learned from that PvZ video "thought process..." I never thought that taking the natural of another start location as your fourth implicitly secures a fifth. That was tactical gold right there... Cool stuff man
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
September 27 2011 19:56 GMT
#13
I feel like I already get this kind of content from day9, except his stuff is infinately better. Good luck in all your endevours, though.
MrJargon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom158 Posts
September 27 2011 19:57 GMT
#14
Awesome post keep up the good work zander
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#15
On September 28 2011 02:29 tehemperorer wrote:
love the tQ guys Zander, and I actually learned from that PvZ video "thought process..." I never thought that taking the natural of another start location as your fourth implicitly secures a fifth. That was tactical gold right there... Cool stuff man


Glad I could help

On September 28 2011 04:56 ishyishy wrote:
I feel like I already get this kind of content from day9, except his stuff is infinately better. Good luck in all your endevours, though.


Thank you for that rather underhanded compliment. But, Day[9] doesn't know everything. Even if we do both talk for hours and you compare it, theres no way that Day9 said everything that I will. Just because i'm doing something similar doesnt mean nobody can gain from it. A clearly separate thing between me and Day9 is that Day9 (odds are) won't see your replay and tlak directly to you about what you can do to become better. I will look at your replay, try to help as best as I can and talk to you continuously about it. So if you have a game that you dont know why you lost or think you did everything right, i'd be happy to help you and I mean that.
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
September 29 2011 02:39 GMT
#16
Edited OP and added another zerg video for the true beginner to Starcraft 2
Wheeze201
Profile Joined February 2011
Iceland17 Posts
October 01 2011 12:21 GMT
#17
Thread Bookmarked.
Thanks for watching my stream. This will probably help me alot
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf :D
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
October 02 2011 19:45 GMT
#18
No problem, Wheeze, keep up the learning and you'll get plat
Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
October 03 2011 13:59 GMT
#19
On September 28 2011 00:14 zanderfever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 13:45 Hossinaut wrote:
While I appreciate the effort, and while the ones I watched (Terran/Zerg/Protoss, how to play) were interesting and informative, they weren't good for learning from nothing. They seem to take for granted that the person knows how to play in general, or at least have good mechanics. Having taught most of my friends how to play, that is an incredibly inefficient way to instruct.
Let them play around for a bit with units and how to do stuff, and then give them general ideas of what they want, and then the specifics. That at least has been the beneficial way for me to instruct. IDK but they've all jumped a league (those that ladder anyway) since I've helped them out.




Thanks, you make a good point. The tutorial videos are more gold/platinum while the beginner vidoes were supposed to be for the even lower level players. I'll edit the OP for more specificity.



I didn't make this clear earlier, so I'm sorry about that

This is amazing. The whole idea of teaching those with less SC2 skill is incredible, but the way you're doing it and going about it is very good. I realize I came across as a huge douche earlier in the thread, so I apologize.


[/QUOTE]
edit - misread. Yea i guess you're right about the newb thing. >_< I don't think a bronze player would look up tutorials though?[/QUOTE]

very true, I should have thought about that, my bad.

zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
October 03 2011 18:28 GMT
#20
On October 03 2011 22:59 Hossinaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 00:14 zanderfever wrote:
On September 27 2011 13:45 Hossinaut wrote:
While I appreciate the effort, and while the ones I watched (Terran/Zerg/Protoss, how to play) were interesting and informative, they weren't good for learning from nothing. They seem to take for granted that the person knows how to play in general, or at least have good mechanics. Having taught most of my friends how to play, that is an incredibly inefficient way to instruct.
Let them play around for a bit with units and how to do stuff, and then give them general ideas of what they want, and then the specifics. That at least has been the beneficial way for me to instruct. IDK but they've all jumped a league (those that ladder anyway) since I've helped them out.




Thanks, you make a good point. The tutorial videos are more gold/platinum while the beginner vidoes were supposed to be for the even lower level players. I'll edit the OP for more specificity.



I didn't make this clear earlier, so I'm sorry about that

This is amazing. The whole idea of teaching those with less SC2 skill is incredible, but the way you're doing it and going about it is very good. I realize I came across as a huge douche earlier in the thread, so I apologize.



edit - misread. Yea i guess you're right about the newb thing. >_< I don't think a bronze player would look up tutorials though?[/QUOTE]

very true, I should have thought about that, my bad.

[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the kind words. No need to apologize as you did help me so no hard feelings
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