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IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 09:37:08
September 26 2011 14:13 GMT
#1
Hey Folks.

Since I will be updating this thread with links to each of my episodes I've decided to clean it up a bit. Below is current news. Under that is my schedule! Keep watching it for updates.

NEWS
1/20/2012 - *w00t* I'm back after more then two months. Way too long! Two more episodes up and more to come
11/01/2011 - I really need to figure out how to fix the extra sound my microphone is picking up. I might need to run it through a board to be able to turn the gain down. Any cheaper ideas? I have an AT2020 (not USB).
10/17/2011 - Made my first Esports dollar!!!! See Here
10/12/2011 - I have a schedule!!! Of sorts. You can find it right below the news section!
10/10/2011 - After taking Sat & Sun off to watch IPL and play the SWTOR beta I'm going to be back today at 4pm. The show will air at 4pm every day this week
10/5/2011 - My schedule changed a little so I'm going to try swapping my show time from 5:30 am to 4pm (EST). We'll see how it goes for the next week.
10/2/2011 - Made an executive decision. Sunday's will be my day off.
10/1/2011 - Videos going up completely lag free! Sadly, I don't think I'll be able to get them up by a specific time each day. I'll try to streamline the process though.
9/30/2011 - I think I finally figured out how to get videos up on Blip.TV that don't lag! I'm very excited. Now, if only I could get rid of that hum in my microphone. I might need to do something with my CPU's fans...


WHAT I AM DOING
(I could really use some help coming up with cooler names...)
Monday: Why Did They Win? (Cast + Analysis)
Tuesday: Pro Series (Cast a Series)
Wednesday: Can I do That? (Study a Pro + Apply to our game)
Thursday: Why Did They Win? (Cast + Analysis)
Friday: No Freakin' Clue (Cast + Analysis of Gold League and Lower)

My Stream!
Twitter
SC2Stadium on BLIP.TV

I'm uploading all my casts to BlipTV for people who can't watch live. You can find my casts below.
Episode #1
Episode #2
Episode #3
Episode #4
Episode #5
Episode #6
Episode #7
Episode #8
Episode #9
Episode #10
Episode #11
Episode #12
Episode #13
Episode #14
Episode #15
Episode #16
Episode #17
Episode #18
Episode #19
Episode #20!
Episode #21
Episode #22
Episode #23
Episode #24 <--pretty embarrassing, don't watch
Episode #25
Episode #26
Episode #27
Episode #28
Episode #29
Episode #30
Episode #31
Episode #32
Episode #33
Episode #34
Episode #35
Episode #36
Episode #37
Episode #38
Episode #39
Episode #40
Episode #41
Episode #42

tl;dr: click the links above :D

This is the OP:

+ Show Spoiler +
Since getting into SC2 a bit less then a year a go I have constantly struggled to find time to play this wonderful game. However, due to many different complications in my life, I've been almost entirely unsuccessful, often playing one or two games every other week. Between traveling, working, fixing my house, spending time with the wife, getting ready for the baby due in February and some social obligations I find that I could really use an extra eight hours each day. As it is, I usually sleep for about six hours a night and then spend the rest of my time working at home or my job. To complicate this, we're starting to enter into the really busy season at my job so I'll have even less time.

Lets add to this the indisputable fact that I am a terrible gamer. I have a short attention span and my hands are too slow to get beyond Bronze. I'm sure I could make it to Gold if I played a ton, but that's not going to happen. And even if I did, I'm positive I wouldn't make it any further. I have the misfortune to have been born exceedingly mediocre, but am fortunate enough to be aware of it and have no illusions of grandeur.

However, I think I might have discovered a way to get my SC2 fix without needing a whole lot of time. See, the reason I got into the game in the first place is that I love watching it. My brother showed me some GSL vods and then pointed me to Day[9] and after devouring every episode either had to offer (GSL was in it's third season in DEC of last year) I decided that SC2 was worth investing in.

For the last nine months I have been working on figuring out exactly what that investment should look like. The sad reality of life is that I have neither the time nor capital to actually do what I'd like, but I do have an extremely wonderful wife who let me turn one of the rooms in our house into a place where I can stream. Because I don't believe in letting chances pass without at least trying them and 25 years of sucking at life has made me largely immune to embarrassment I've settled on the following.

I'm going to try to stream every morning very early (between 5:30am and 6:30am EST) before I go to work. However, instead of streaming my terrible Bronze League play I thought I'd try my hand at casting and doing some very basic analysis. My reasoning is as follows:

1) I don't have enough time to play SC2 in a way that will be remotely satisfying.
2) If I'm going to suck at SC2 related activities, I might as well have fun while doing so
3) I want to deepen my knowledge and understanding of the game so that I can be a better fan.
4) I would like to contribute something to the community, even if it is a chance for people to feel better about themselves by watching someone considerably worse then they will ever be.

So, moral of the story. Come watch me. Laugh with me or at me (I hope you'll be able to do at least one of the two...though I'm not really very funny...) and enjoy some SC2.
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
September 26 2011 14:23 GMT
#2
Good luck. It would help if you cast high level replays. I'd suggest searching raleigh replay pack on tl and downloading replays from the last two mlgs
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
September 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#3
Streaming at 5 am? And after that going to work? Damn dude.

You are crazy.
I had a good night of sleep.
sKo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
September 26 2011 14:29 GMT
#4
Wow man, you just described my life to a T (except for being married). Therefore I wish you the best of luck and think it's a great idea!
"My wife for hire!"
vudulp
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil45 Posts
September 26 2011 15:01 GMT
#5
ppl like you are admirable n inspiration, dude. I wish I could have your will and dedication.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
September 26 2011 15:06 GMT
#6
Interesting idea and good luck!


I also usually only get a few games a week in so I can relate.
Nihn'kas Neehn
IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
September 26 2011 15:24 GMT
#7
Thanks guys! I know that 5:30-6:30 am EST is a god awful hour to cast, but if you ever find yourself up come hang out.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
September 26 2011 15:28 GMT
#8
nice idea hehe

i like how you want to be able to help the community and everyone who really tries to help the community will surely find his place
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
ster
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands94 Posts
September 26 2011 15:29 GMT
#9
Good luck! 5 a.m. for Americans is around noon in Europe, so you might catch some viewers there.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
September 26 2011 15:38 GMT
#10
Good luck but I don't see it working out.. In my opinion to get views and to be somewhat respected as a caster you need to at least be ranked top Masters. Otherwise what are you even going to talk about ? If you're just going to focus on the fights or whatever, Husky's already casting that way so why would people watch you over him ? If you're gonna talk a bunch of non-sense and hype stuff for no reason, TotalBiscuit is already doing that, again why should people watch you over any of the already established casters especially if you have no credibility to your name due to your ranking.

I'm pretty sure everyone on this website loves to play/cast and do anything eSports related but the reality of things is most will just end up losing their time and very few will ''succeed''.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 26 2011 15:46 GMT
#11
On September 27 2011 00:38 TuElite wrote:
Good luck but I don't see it working out.. In my opinion to get views and to be somewhat respected as a caster you need to at least be ranked top Masters. Otherwise what are you even going to talk about ? If you're just going to focus on the fights or whatever, Husky's already casting that way so why would people watch you over him ? If you're gonna talk a bunch of non-sense and hype stuff for no reason, TotalBiscuit is already doing that, again why should people watch you over any of the already established casters especially if you have no credibility to your name due to your ranking.

I'm pretty sure everyone on this website loves to play/cast and do anything eSports related but the reality of things is most will just end up losing their time and very few will ''succeed''.


I don't think he is trying to be the next big caster. It sounds like he just is trying to have fun and expand his knowledge of the game, and I think the idea he has is a fine one. There isn't much competition at the time he is on, so I'm sure a couple people will tune in to watch/listen to him.
IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
September 26 2011 15:49 GMT
#12
TuElite, while I don't agree completely, I do think you bring up a good point.

That said, I think my definition of success is a little different then yours. I am primarily doing this as a way to enjoy myself. If others enjoy it as well all the better. But, as I stated, I've never been good at anything in my life and I'm not expecting that to change now. :D

I do hope you'll come check me out regardless of how much I suck.
Kelethius
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada187 Posts
September 26 2011 15:58 GMT
#13
I have yet to discover the logical reason as to why so many non-players of sc2 have such a seemingly passionate drive to "contribute" to the "e-sports community", or the drive to find anything and everything other than actually playing the game to get better at sc2.

You say in your post that after your brother showed you daynine dailies, you watched every single one (over 350 of them now I believe), in addition to watching gsl and other tournaments. That is ALOT of time, even the dailies, which are an hour a day, if you actually spent playing, then you could actually develop understanding and get better. You make it out that your life is so busy that you have no time to play starcraft 2, yet later in your post you find all this time to watch a rediculously large amount of daily's and gsl casts. If you actually played instead of watching all the time, you would be MUCH better.

Which leads me to the main point of your post which was probably the main reason that tilted me into writing this post; was your claim that you have some genetic predisposition that makes you bad at playing video games and sc2. That has to be one of the stupidest excuses for not wanting to play sc2 that I've ever heard... Nobody is born good at sc2, and nobody gets good at sc2 without tons of hours of practice. While it may take longer to master for some than others, theres no innate ability to have high apm or be good at splitting marines, it all comes from hours and hours of practice. Even flash and jaedong or whichever amazing sc1/sc2 player you want to cite has spent thousands of hours playing the game that allowed them tor reach that level, it sure as hell wasnt their genes that got them there while they sat around and watched tv.

If you actually took the time to play the game rather than pissing away what little free time you have watching dailies or gsl casts, you would quickly find that your play would improve drastically. I went from zero background in rts playing 1-2 hours a day of sc2 since beta and got to masters, so have tons of people, and its not because of our genes, its because of our determination and drive to succeed that kept us clicking the "find match" button. You dont need 8 hours a day to be good at sc2, if you even have 1 hour a day free time that you dedicate to sc2 anyways (which you admit to having via watching day9) then you have enough free time to become good at sc2 and become a masters level player. Quit fooling yourself by saying its your genes that make you bad at sc2, its because you spend all your free time not playing. If you truly want to become better at sc2 and gain a better understanding of the game, spend that 1 hour playing the game everyday instead of streaming in the morning, and then in the evening when you would be watching day9, spend another hour playing games. Hell you could even stream both of those and use your audience to help you improve your play. That would be far more entertaining and engaging than someone who has no sc2 experience trying to cast replays on stream.

It never ceases to baffle me how people who apparently hate playing sc2 (which I conclude from their extreme capacity to search for anything and everything that can help them get better that is not playing the actual game) go to such extremes to enjoy it and "be a part of the community". Your even going to the extent as to wake up at 5:30 am for the sole reason of casting replays... Either be content with being mediocre as you claim and sit around and piss away hours watching daynine or gsl vods, or if you actually have a drive to be better at sc2 and love it as much as you say you do, play the fucking game.
IVFearless
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States165 Posts
September 26 2011 16:17 GMT
#14
@Kelethius, I'd really love to follow your advice, but the sad truth is I honestly can't. I guess I could try streaming ladder games some of the days, but I just don't have any other time to play. I am lucky enough to have a job that allows me to watch streams and vods all day. When you consider that I work an average of 50 hours a week except during our "holiday" period (which goes from late July till January) when I work an average of 80, I end up being able to watch a lot of SC2. I actually don't watch SC2 except at work. Well, that's not true. Sometimes I put on OneMoreGameTV while doing paperwork. This means I do get ~50 to 80 hours a week to devote to watching SC (my life isn't all bad . Sadly, my job is not so flexible as to allow me to play while I work

I can tell you feel pretty strongly about this so, if you'll come watch, I'll ladder a couple of days a week. Don't know that I'll get more then two games in a day, but even that would be a drastic improvement as far as time spent playing.

Case in point, I am currently watching SaSe's Stream as well as LiquidJinro's and going on my 14th hour at work. I'm here for another 4 hours at which point I will go home, make dinner, fix a door and then go to bed so I can get up at 4 tomorrow. :D
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
September 26 2011 16:19 GMT
#15
Hi, Fearless. To get out of bronze you need to learn a solid build that gives you a lot of units reasonably fast and a good map control unless you like all-ins. Once you find a built you're comfortable with and can get good results with, without silly losses (gotta scout the cheese), you may as well stick with it and refine it (to be faster), using like one build against every race or even one build against everybody (not every build is good for that). Once you're out of bronze, the surprise cheeses diminish and the game looks closer to normal. You may need to devote long hours from time to time, as opposed to a game or two once in a week, to become faster.

Nice idea with the streaming! As a side bonus, I suppose after casting high-level replays for a longer while, you should have enough knowledge to outsmart bronze to gold opponents even if you're slow.
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
September 26 2011 16:48 GMT
#16
I understand how you feel, I am married too with 2 kids so free time is something I also dont really have. I do watch games at my job as well though maybe not as much as you did, the worst for me is that my PC cant run the game properly, it crash after sometime randomly. Currently I just dont play it anymore but I am working on a small online tournament for my countrymates, if we are lucky maybe I will make the final on a "LAN".

Will try to watch some of your streams, though I am not sure if that is 4:30am for me. Good luck with thi!!!.
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
September 26 2011 17:50 GMT
#17
On September 27 2011 00:58 Kelethius wrote:
I have yet to discover the logical reason as to why so many non-players of sc2 have such a seemingly passionate drive to "contribute" to the "e-sports community", or the drive to find anything and everything other than actually playing the game to get better at sc2.

You say in your post that after your brother showed you daynine dailies, you watched every single one (over 350 of them now I believe), in addition to watching gsl and other tournaments. That is ALOT of time, even the dailies, which are an hour a day, if you actually spent playing, then you could actually develop understanding and get better. You make it out that your life is so busy that you have no time to play starcraft 2, yet later in your post you find all this time to watch a rediculously large amount of daily's and gsl casts. If you actually played instead of watching all the time, you would be MUCH better.

Which leads me to the main point of your post which was probably the main reason that tilted me into writing this post; was your claim that you have some genetic predisposition that makes you bad at playing video games and sc2. That has to be one of the stupidest excuses for not wanting to play sc2 that I've ever heard... Nobody is born good at sc2, and nobody gets good at sc2 without tons of hours of practice. While it may take longer to master for some than others, theres no innate ability to have high apm or be good at splitting marines, it all comes from hours and hours of practice. Even flash and jaedong or whichever amazing sc1/sc2 player you want to cite has spent thousands of hours playing the game that allowed them tor reach that level, it sure as hell wasnt their genes that got them there while they sat around and watched tv.

If you actually took the time to play the game rather than pissing away what little free time you have watching dailies or gsl casts, you would quickly find that your play would improve drastically. I went from zero background in rts playing 1-2 hours a day of sc2 since beta and got to masters, so have tons of people, and its not because of our genes, its because of our determination and drive to succeed that kept us clicking the "find match" button. You dont need 8 hours a day to be good at sc2, if you even have 1 hour a day free time that you dedicate to sc2 anyways (which you admit to having via watching day9) then you have enough free time to become good at sc2 and become a masters level player. Quit fooling yourself by saying its your genes that make you bad at sc2, its because you spend all your free time not playing. If you truly want to become better at sc2 and gain a better understanding of the game, spend that 1 hour playing the game everyday instead of streaming in the morning, and then in the evening when you would be watching day9, spend another hour playing games. Hell you could even stream both of those and use your audience to help you improve your play. That would be far more entertaining and engaging than someone who has no sc2 experience trying to cast replays on stream.

It never ceases to baffle me how people who apparently hate playing sc2 (which I conclude from their extreme capacity to search for anything and everything that can help them get better that is not playing the actual game) go to such extremes to enjoy it and "be a part of the community". Your even going to the extent as to wake up at 5:30 am for the sole reason of casting replays... Either be content with being mediocre as you claim and sit around and piss away hours watching daynine or gsl vods, or if you actually have a drive to be better at sc2 and love it as much as you say you do, play the fucking game.


Best post I've ever read.

The first paragraph is basically my entire thoughts about most people who start doing that, they just do the most obscure of shit to "contribute".

If you want to get better, don't cast replays with no knowledge of the game - that'll just be bad. The casting will be bad, since you'll have nothing to say, especially on your own. Solo casting is hard, you have to be talking all the time, and make it interesting.

If you want to cast, take the time to get to masters, and make sure your game knowledge is good enough. And if you want your game knowledge to increase, playing will increase that a lot more than casting from no knowledge will.

Also, if you've watched every Day9 daily, how are you as bad as you claim?!
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
September 26 2011 18:02 GMT
#18
I barely play anymore just so much other stuff to do but enjoy watching sc2. It's like people who love watching professional sport but don't play them themselves. Sc2 is my sport. That's how I see it anyway. Watching the best of the best is something I enjoy. I could never cast I don't think I could handle the extra public scrutiny. Best of luck with your casting might tune in sometime
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
September 26 2011 21:27 GMT
#19
think there is way too much focus on trying to turn OP into a better player.IVFearless said that he finds watching the game more enjoyable than playing it.

My suggestion is to do what you find enjoyable and to try not to turn it into work. Other posters here seem to think that if your not the greatest caster alive you shouldn't be doing it at all.
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vudulp
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil45 Posts
September 27 2011 11:45 GMT
#20
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 27 2011 00:58 Kelethius wrote:
I have yet to discover the logical reason as to why so many non-players of sc2 have such a seemingly passionate drive to "contribute" to the "e-sports community", or the drive to find anything and everything other than actually playing the game to get better at sc2.

You say in your post that after your brother showed you daynine dailies, you watched every single one (over 350 of them now I believe), in addition to watching gsl and other tournaments. That is ALOT of time, even the dailies, which are an hour a day, if you actually spent playing, then you could actually develop understanding and get better. You make it out that your life is so busy that you have no time to play starcraft 2, yet later in your post you find all this time to watch a rediculously large amount of daily's and gsl casts. If you actually played instead of watching all the time, you would be MUCH better.

Which leads me to the main point of your post which was probably the main reason that tilted me into writing this post; was your claim that you have some genetic predisposition that makes you bad at playing video games and sc2. That has to be one of the stupidest excuses for not wanting to play sc2 that I've ever heard... Nobody is born good at sc2, and nobody gets good at sc2 without tons of hours of practice. While it may take longer to master for some than others, theres no innate ability to have high apm or be good at splitting marines, it all comes from hours and hours of practice. Even flash and jaedong or whichever amazing sc1/sc2 player you want to cite has spent thousands of hours playing the game that allowed them tor reach that level, it sure as hell wasnt their genes that got them there while they sat around and watched tv.

If you actually took the time to play the game rather than pissing away what little free time you have watching dailies or gsl casts, you would quickly find that your play would improve drastically. I went from zero background in rts playing 1-2 hours a day of sc2 since beta and got to masters, so have tons of people, and its not because of our genes, its because of our determination and drive to succeed that kept us clicking the "find match" button. You dont need 8 hours a day to be good at sc2, if you even have 1 hour a day free time that you dedicate to sc2 anyways (which you admit to having via watching day9) then you have enough free time to become good at sc2 and become a masters level player. Quit fooling yourself by saying its your genes that make you bad at sc2, its because you spend all your free time not playing. If you truly want to become better at sc2 and gain a better understanding of the game, spend that 1 hour playing the game everyday instead of streaming in the morning, and then in the evening when you would be watching day9, spend another hour playing games. Hell you could even stream both of those and use your audience to help you improve your play. That would be far more entertaining and engaging than someone who has no sc2 experience trying to cast replays on stream.

It never ceases to baffle me how people who apparently hate playing sc2 (which I conclude from their extreme capacity to search for anything and everything that can help them get better that is not playing the actual game) go to such extremes to enjoy it and "be a part of the community". Your even going to the extent as to wake up at 5:30 am for the sole reason of casting replays... Either be content with being mediocre as you claim and sit around and piss away hours watching daynine or gsl vods, or if you actually have a drive to be better at sc2 and love it as much as you say you do, play the fucking game.



I have to agreed with this post.

I started playing sc2 on beta, 1 month before the release. I confess that I was rly good in another RTS games, but I never played BW or any blizzard game before, so I had to start from 0, bronze level.

I knew all the steps to get better in the game genre so that helped me alot, and in 40 days playing beta I managed go from bronze to platinum, and soon diamond, playing zerg, 2~3 hours a day.
Then, the game was launched, and I was more busy than beta phase. I couldn't play every days, and those I could, was just about 1~2 hours. I have to say that master league cames out, and I figured out my first challange in the game, being master player, playing about 5 hours per week. I was very focused in that quest. So I did it in about 1 month.

Now I can play more than that, or at least I have more time to spend on sc2 scene. I wouldn't say I'm much better than I was, I'm master ~1100 and I'm happy with that.

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