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UTL_Unlimited
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Last Edited: 2011-07-23 04:35:16
July 22 2011 23:54 GMT
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[Note: I decided to translate the PlayXP article reactions to show the how Korean netizens thought about the situation. I will translate both when PlayXP released that Puma was released and also the article when Coach Lee was interviewed Also note that I will simply translate every netizen reaction that are not just one word responses or troll responses. I will go DOWN THE LIST so that everyone knows that I am not choosing the 'good' or 'bad' comments].
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I also was halfway through the translations WHEN THE POWER OF THE HOUSE WENT OUT AND I DON"T KNOW HOW TO SAVE ON THIS THING SO I LOST EVERYTHING!!! SO I HAD TO DO IT TWICE FUUUUUUUUU


playXP article #1
스트레이: 이게 무슨...;;;
(What is this....;;

절대간판징징: 아 진짜 이건 좀 아닌 듯.......EG 뭐냐........
오죽했으면 공식 입장 표명에서 감독님이 직접 불쾌감을 표시했을까.....
(Ahh...for reals? This isn't right...What is this EG..... If you did it the right way then would Coach Lee show such discontent....)

맹독장군 : 뭐지
그러면
EG Puma 가 되는건가열? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
(What is this....then....Is Puma going to be EG Puma? lololol)

봉쥬르K : 이호준씨도..감독님과 말씀은좀 해보시고 그러시지... 아무튼 잘 되시길 빌겠습니다..^^;;
(Puma....at least talk to your coach about this...anyway I wish you good luck ^.^;;

모지후:뭐....뭐지 이건;;;;;
선수 빼앗아가기인가 이거;;;;
(What...What is this...did we just get a player stolen ^.^;;;

나무_: 진짜 거의 선수 뺏아가기 수준인듯 ;;
(Almost at the level of getting a player stolen ;

방복 : 진짜 감독님 너무 불쌍하시네;;
( I feel so sorry for the director ;

MirrorMoon : 골때리네 (...) 이건 좀 아니지.....
(Wow...This isn't really right....)

Hancock: 팀의 감독을 무시하고 선수한테 직접 제의 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
에라이, 멋대로네
(Ignoring the team's director and going straight for the player lolololol...Wow [EG] just does whatever it wants to do).

METEORKIM : 계약서 있으면 소송으로가도 해볼만 하겠다 +_+
(If [TSL] has a contract, they could go for a sue +_+)

Myth_Zero: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 역시 이드라가 속해있는팀
(lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it)

늬뷔르 : 이호준선수가 TSL 에이스 아닌가요? 후덜덜;;
(Isn't Puma TSL's ace? ugghhh)

BJ펜: TSL원탑 테란인데ㄷㄷㄷ
(TSL's top tier terran.....)

언데드의황금기: 이운재감독 불쌍 ㅠ
(I feel so sad for Coach Lee T^T)

바이즈런: 다좋은데 이드라 싸이코패스 맨탈만 배우지말아라
(I'm fine with it. Just don't learn/[listen to] Idra's psychopath metal)

꿈꾸는소녀 : 이호준도 문제임 이미 나슬 4강때 제의가 들어왔고 맘 굳힌 다음 감독님한테 그냥 자기 EG간다고 말하고 20일 저녁에 짐싸서 나갔다는거 같던데
(Puma's the problem. He decided after getting to NASL ro4 and then next thing that happens, he tells the director that he's going to EG and packed his bags on the night of the 20th or that's what I've heard)

갱스터머신 : + Show Spoiler +
사람이 잘살려면 은혜를 알고 설사 끝을내더라도 마무리를 잘해야지
하다못해 알바를 해도 사장한태 수일전에 말은하고 그만두는데 결국 우승한번
했다고 바로 말도안하고 짐싸버리네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

스1때부터 거의 듣보잡이 5년만에 우승한번했으니 기분좋아서
막지를수는 있으나 그딴 정신상태로는 결국 죽쓴다 ;;

바라 이적도 아니고 방출이라는 표현을 써가면서 너에게 실망감을 표출했다
니가 해외에서 죽쓰면 이제 안받아죠
참 게임질만 했을니 알리가 있나 ;;

(If people want to live well they need to have connections and good standings with other people, so you need to finish something positively. Even with part time jobs you tell your boss a few days before you quit and just because Puma got a single win he thinks he can act like this and leave without telling the coach lololol
Struggled in starcraft 1 and after 5 years finally got a championship...You were so happy that you think you can act like insane like this..It's going to get you killed. See? it says 'release' and not a 'parting of ways' so it's showing Coach Lee's disappointment. Even if you die overseas I'm not going to care...Just because you're good at the game doesn't mean you can do this...)
[note: this was not verbatim but rather an interpretation since I did not know how to express it correctly]

slaying : 계약서 없데요.
([TSL] has no contract [with Puma])/

갱스터머신 : + Show Spoiler +
결국 스2도 싸인을 하고 프로스포츠처럼 계약에 명시해서 선수단을 운영해야한다 ;;
개스파가 엿같고 더럽다 하지만 결국은 친목질로 뭉친 팀은 이렇게 될수밖에 없다
세상에 어느 스포츠가 팀도 모르게 선수만 빼가는 이런 일이 어디있단 말인가 ;;

게다가 연봉까지 주는팀인데 감도에게 말도없이 계약이 성사됐다는건 이건 그야말로
돈가지고 친목질 했다는건데 ;;
지금이라도 믿음이고 좌시고 그만두고 팀에 있고싶으면 계약서를 작성해라 ;;
하다못해 알바를 해도 노동계약서 쓴다 ;;

(Guess even in Starcraft 2 we need to have contracts signed to operate...I fucking hate KESPA but it was a need as bonds and friendships can't hold teams together anymore. I mean in what sport is it ok for a steal a player without informing the team? It's also a team that gives salaries and Puma just leaves without any warning...Guess money's that important ;;; If trust and bonds cannot hold teams anymore then just start making contrats ;;. Might as well contracts in even part time jobs ;

맹독장군:
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스2의 문제점이 어린선수들이 너무 많은거 같네요
실력은 좋지만,
아직 인간으로서의 성장이 덜 된것 같아 실망감을 안겨주는군요
정말 프로게이머라는 직업을 직업처럼 생각햇다면 저런일은 저지르지 않겟죠
생각좀 키웟으면...

(Starcraft 2's problem is that there's too many young people. They have the skills but as people they have no maturity so they don't feel ashamed when they do things like this. The players need to think of progaming as a profession so that they don't do things like this. If only they could mature...)

SpiderS_MINe: 갱스터머신 ☜ 적절한 비유, 동감
하다못해 알바를 해도 사장한테 수일전에 말을하고 그만두는데ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
(갱스터머신 I totally agree with you..Even with part time jobs you tell your boss a few days before you quit lolololol)

전라도아귀: + Show Spoiler +
이호준선수 너무 실망이네요
이호준선수 최근에 nasl 우승하고 gstl에서 활약햇지 그전에는 방송에는 얼굴도 못내미는 그런 듣보잡 선수엿는데 솔직히 연봉주고 안주고를 떠나서 그동안 먹여주고 재워주고 한게있는데
최근에 갑자기 잘해져서 대우좀 받는다고 감독과 상의도없이 타팀과 계약을 해버린다... 이건 좀 아닌거같네요 물론 프로게이머가 오래할수있는직업이아니라 잘할때 바짝 벌어야된다 이건 맞지만 한국인정서를 가진 저로서는 이런 행동이 이해가 되지않네요...

(Puma I am disappointed in you. You've just won NASL and finally done well in GSTl and before that you coudln't even raise your head in the studio. And sure you didn't get a salary but they fed and gave you a place to sleep...Just because you've suddenly done well and received a championship you leave without even consulting your director...This isn't right. Sure you can't be a progamer for long and should get all that you can but as a Korean with a Korean citizenship I just do not understand your behavior....)

SpiderS_MINe: 솔직히 이런 정도의 멘탈이라면
승부조작 같은 거에 혹해서 쉽게 넘어갈 지도 모를일;;
주의깊게 봐야해요.
(With such a mentality I guess match betting scandals might also occur;; we have to be careful.)

밍구니 :
개인적으로 토스 잘 잡는 테란을 좋아해서 관심가고 기대중이었던 선수였는데 실망이네요.
가뜩이나 선수도 별로 없는 소수정예 TSL인데.. 안타깝습니다.
(I liked you because you were a terran who could snipe protoss players well but I am very disappointed. TSL doesn't even have a lot of players left...I am disappointed)

히드라리크스 : 엥 이게 무슨소리지.... TSL이 무슨 클랜도 아니고 계약조건도 없이 선수들 데려다 쓰고있나요? (What is this? TSL isn't a clan. Why do they use players without even having any contracts with them?)

Gabrielus : 방출도 좀;;
아무리 그래도 이호준선수 가장 가능성있는 선수중 하나인데
(A release is a bit;; I mean, come on Puma is one of those players with a lot of potential)

절대간판징징: + Show Spoiler +
제가 팀리퀴드 가서 확인해봤는데, 감독님이 "이런 식으로 결정을 내릴 수밖에 없는 게 정말 실망스럽다. 하지만 EG가 감독을 완전히 무시하고 선수에게 직접 가서 애기한 것은 믿을 수 없을 정도로 역겹다."고 하셨다는 군요. EG는 NASL 4강이 끝나고 직접 이호준 선수와 접촉했고 이호준 선수 역시 EG의 제안을 받아들이기로 결정했다네요. 그리고 한국에 돌아와서야 TSL 감독님에게 자신의 의향을 밝혔고 이운재 감독님은 결국은 선수의 바람을 존중해주기로 했다네요.
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감독님은 "혼란스럽다. 이건 정말 내가 애지중지 키운 선수를 누군가가 내 곁에서 뺴앗아 가는 것과 같은 느낌이다 "고 하시면서 "외국팀이 이런식으로 한국인 선수를 빼앗아 가는 것을 막을 시스템이 필요하다"고 했습니다.
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정말 감독님 말씀이 옳습니다. 이런 식으로 외국 팀이 유능한 한국인 선수를 "훔쳐 가는" 일을 방지할 시스템 같은 게 꼭 필요해 보입니다.

(I went and checked teamliquid, and the director posted that "I am very disappointed that I had to make a decision like this. However, EG ignored me as his manager and simply went directly to th eplayer and made such an unbelievable approach". EG apparently approached puma after NASL ro4 and offered to Puma a position on their team. And then Puma returned and then finally informed the TSL director about this and Coach Lee respected Puma's decisions. The director posted that "I am very disappointed. This is a player that I've truly raised and I feel like I just had hims tolen from me" and that "If this is how foreigners are going to steal our players then we need a system to stop it".
I agree with coach Lee. If this is how foreigner teams does business and are going to "steal" our players, then we need a system to stop this.)

[April] : 이호준이 먼저 제의한것도 아니고 해외팀에서 먼저 제의 한건데 너무들 이호준씨한테 달려드시네... 계약서도 없었다고 그랬고 방출만 안 했으면 팀리그는 끝나고 갔었을텐데...
제가 보는 입장에서는 오히려 감독님께서 팀리그 안 껴도 되니까 방출당하고 욕이나 먹어라 하고 저지른일 같네요
(It's not that Puma approached the foreigner teams first but the otehr way around so people need to lay off of Puma...Puma said he didn't have a contract and if he wasn't finished then Puma would have at least finished the Teamleagues and left... In my opinion Coach Lee is simply bashing on Puma and saying we don't need you so get released and get out of my sight.)

E.Verdancy: 통수 ㅋ 해외 나가서 성공 할 수 있을려나.....실력을 키우려면 국내무대가 나을듯한데...
무튼 푸마선수한테도 돌이킬 수 없는 선택이네요.....죽어라고 성공해야할 듯.
(lol. Better go out there and succeed...But can you? It's best to raise your skills in Korea...Looks like this is a decision Puma can't turn aruond....It's either dying or succeeding).

오늘군: 이호준 선수 입장에서의 말도 들어봐야 할 것 같은데요...
대체 이게 무슨 상황이람..
(We need to hear what Puma has to say as well...What is this situation?)

천방지축좌충우돌 : 이런 결정을 한 이운재 감독님의 심정을 아신다면 '방충은 좀 아니지 않나..'라는 생각 하지 않으실겁니다. 어떻게 보면 자기 자식처럼 아끼는 선수들입니다. 스1처럼 계약하고나서 게임단에 있는것이 아니고요. 계약서를 쓰지 않은 상태에서 그만큼 선수를 믿었다는 표현이 가능하지요. 그렇게 믿었던 자식이 해외 재벌이 "너 양자로 들어와라 돈 많음." "들어갈게요.." 과 비슷한 전개인데.. 퓨마선수는 기자회견을 하든 잘못을 표출해야됩니다.
(I'm pretty sure no one is thinking that Coach Lee's decision to release is too much. This is a player that Coach Lee practically raised. We don't have contracts like Starcraft 1 and the players don't just simply play. This decision to not have binding contracts show the amount of trust the Coach had on his team. To betray that trust just because someone said "We have a lot of money". "ok I'll come" is just bad....I think Puma needs to release a public apology.)

솔져스두목: 당연히 욕먹을 짓이죠.
버려진 개도 키워준 주인과 헤어질때 눈물 흘립니다.
이호준 선수는 얼굴 철판깔고 국내 오세요.
감독님의 결정은 잘하신듯 저런 인간은 빨리 방출하고 다시 기운내시기 바랍니다
(yeah Puma needs to be cussed out. Even a dog that's been abandoned cries for it's owner when they aprt. I hope that Puma gets crossed and comes back to Korea. I think that Coach Lee made the right decision. Such trash needs to be gotten rid of).

oSlFantasy : EG 진짜 뭐하자는거냐.저딴 팀이 프로팀으로 남아있을수 있는건지가 의문이고,선수 자체도 문제다.그 동안의 정과 도의적인 측면에서 최소한 상의정도는 해보고 결정하는게 예의아닌가.기본적인 예의조차 갖추지 못한 프로게이머따위 경기 아무리 잘한대도 필요없다.진짜 이호준선수와 EG팀에게 실망했고 앞으로 그들을 좋아하게 될일도,좋아 할수도 없을것같다.
(What is EG doing. I can't believe such a team is a professional team and they do such businesses. Even the players in EG are a problem. Don't you do business with respect to others and follow the law? [EG] can't even adhere to the simplest of manners and if you think that you only need good gamers then you're not needed. I am very disappointed with both Puma and EG and no matter how well they do, I think they can't even be happy with it)

난테: EG가 더 괘씸하긴 하지만
이호준 선수도 충분히 욕먹을 짓 했네요
TSL 팬인 저만해도 배신감 느껴지는데
이운재 감독님은 오죽할까요
(This is definetely EG's fault and should be blamed for it, but Puma also needs to be cussed out. I am a TSL fan and I feel betrayed. How will Coach Lee feel?)

Arctu: TSL 힘내라 ㅠㅠ 신상호 한규종이 있자나! ㅠ
(TSL Hwaiting T^T. Still having Clide and Sangho! T^T)

로닉스 : 감독이나 선수나 상대를 존중하지는 않았네요..
(Doesn't seem to respect the coaches or the players....)

불곰아달려라 : EG is Fu땡땡
(Yeah...easy)

Note: Most of the remaining are similar in this context. Thus, I will translate the comments left after Coach Lee's interview was released on PlayXP


playXP Article #2

To read the article in English, visit: TSL's Coach Lee Speaks out on Puma

AUTOEXEC.BAT : 의문점 몇개가 풀리긴 하네 ㅇㅇ
하긴 그동안 성적이 좋질 않았으니, 말은 안했지만 후원규모가 작아졌었구나..
(A couple of things are explained...I guess since the results haven't been good....no one would say anything but it just got worse from there)

Zenzo: 그래도 감독님이 못해주신것도아니고
나름대로 노력해주셨을텐데
오라는말 한마디듣고 그걸 그냥 가버리네 ㅋㅋ
(It's not like the coach did nothing for Puma. The coach worked hard for him, but Puma just hears an offer once and just goes right away lolol)

아침의눈: 신상호도 나가면 어케댐?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
(What happens if Sangho leaves as well? lolololol)

버디언: 역시 뭔가 내부사정이 있었군여
아무튼 속시원하게 다 밝혀주시다니 팬들도 많이 이해할듯
(Yep, I guess there were some behind the scene issues. But at least the coach was transparent so the fans should understand).

EL-Nino: 한규종 신상호 선수 멘탈만큼은 우승감이네요
열렬한 팬이될듯 TSL 화이팅입니다
(Clide and Sangho have winner mentalities. I think I will become a big fan of TSL. TSL Hwaiting!)

SesameOil: 아.. 스2도 빨리 스1처럼 대기업이 스폰서가 되주는 그런 상황이 되야할텐데... 그러려면 정규방송 타야될테고.. 그때까지 버텨야할틴디'
(Ahh...I hope Starcraft 2 will become like Starcraft 1 in terms of sponsors....but then we need television broadcasts...must survive until then!)

귀요밍: 뭐랄까.. 지금 이 씁쓸한 마음을 말로 표현하기가 좀 애매하네요..
해줄 수 있는 말은 힘내세요밖에 없네요
(I just feel a bit of....disappointment and I can understand you coach Lee. I can only say Hwaiting and good luck in your efforts).

야헝이:
+ Show Spoiler +
공감가는 솔직한 인터뷰 감사합니다. 이번 일을 타산지석으로 더욱 탄탄한 TSL팀, 곰티비.스2협회 등등 되기를 바라겠습니다. 한규종 선수, 신상호 선수 외 TSL 선수 모두 화이팅~!

글고 아무리 요즘 세상이 돈으로 움직인다지만, 결국 나중에 남는건 사람입니다. 큰 결심 존중합니다만, 사람관계까지 나쁘게 하고 못 볼 사람처럼 끝내진 마세용~!!

글고, 블리자드-블리자드 코리아...니네들은 스2 e스포츠 연습생부터 대회참가자 등 관련자 모두를 마케팅 도구로 쓰는거나 마찬가지면서 스1처럼 뒷짐지고 있으면 저절로 흥행되겠지? 그러는거 아니다. 초심으로 되돌아가길~

(Thank you for the honest interview. I understsand that you have a lot to overcome, but I hope that TSL will improve. Clide, Sangho, and all the other TSL players hwaiting!
And yes the world does revolve around money, but later on all that is left are people. Don't be a person who only goes after money and ignore the others during it!
And finally Blizzard-Blizzard Korea...you guys think that simply promoting Sc2 and doing everything from marketing and gathering 'fans' while screwing over SC1 will work? That's not the way you do this. Hope you go back to the righteous path~)

힛리 : 이런 글 보면, 캐스파가 스2에도 필요하다고 느껴지네요. 우리나라는 흥행이고 뭐고 어쩔수없이 기업에서 운영해야하는 구조같음
(Reading things like this make me feel like Kespa Starcraft 2 is needed. We need to protect our way of traditions no matter what).

[Note: There are a lot of other comments, but mostly are CLIDE SANGHO HWAITING <3]
Need to write more things...
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 23:58:02
July 22 2011 23:57 GMT
#2
Thanks!

Seems like you accidentally put all the reactions in twice though!

Edit: Ah already fixed I see :-)
this game is a fucking jokie
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
July 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#3
To late read the whole thing before you edited
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
July 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#4
On July 23 2011 08:54 UTL_Unlimited wrote:


Myth_Zero: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 역시 이드라가 속해있는팀
(lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it)


That one mad me mad.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 22 2011 23:59 GMT
#5
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#6
On July 23 2011 08:59 sereniity wrote:
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...


Puma did not tell AG not to talk to the coach, he just said he'll talk to the coach. stop twisting the facts. anyways but this is all coming from AG, I guess we'll never hear Puma's side of the story.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:07:26
July 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#7
On July 23 2011 09:00 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:59 sereniity wrote:
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...


Puma did not tell AG not to talk to the coach, he just said he'll talk to the coach. stop twisting the facts. anyways but this is all coming from AG, I guess we'll never hear Puma's side of the story.


I'm pretty sure they both agreed to let PuMa talk to his coach first, if there's some info that states otherwise then please link.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#8
It's pretty funny how some relate this back to idrA.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
July 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#9
Wow it's interesting how Koreans are blaming Puma for how the situation played out, while posters on TL are mostly against EG. Big headed Puma indeed.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#10
i was going to ask for this after i read the korean reaction to GTSL

thanks a lot! love to read reactions
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#11
On July 23 2011 09:01 EnderCraft wrote:
It's pretty funny how some relate this back to idrA.

Well they only exposure the korean scene has had to EG up to this point is Idra, and now this situation with Puma. I'm glad we actually have teams like Liquid, SK, and FXO working with the teams over there already otherwise I think the reaction would have been much worse.
Sufroner
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain119 Posts
July 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#12
Thanks for the translations!

맹독장군 : 뭐지
그러면
EG Puma 가 되는건가열? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
(lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it)

I lol'd at this one.
Everybody gets knocked down, how quick are you gonna get up?
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:05:48
July 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#13
On July 23 2011 08:58 Retgery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:54 UTL_Unlimited wrote:


Myth_Zero: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 역시 이드라가 속해있는팀
(lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it)


That one mad me mad.

To be frank I lol'd when I read that.

The koreans kinda hate him now, that comment about PuMa dying O.o
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#14
(lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it)

HAHAHAA amazing
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#15
On July 23 2011 09:01 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:00 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:59 sereniity wrote:
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...


Puma did not tell AG not to talk to the coach, he just said he'll talk to the coach. stop twisting the facts. anyways but this is all coming from AG, I guess we'll never hear Puma's side of the story.


I'm pretty sure they both agreed to let PuMa talk to his coach first, it's EG btw.


He means Alex Garfield.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:05:41
July 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#16
On July 23 2011 09:01 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:00 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:59 sereniity wrote:
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...


Puma did not tell AG not to talk to the coach, he just said he'll talk to the coach. stop twisting the facts. anyways but this is all coming from AG, I guess we'll never hear Puma's side of the story.


I'm pretty sure they both agreed to let PuMa talk to his coach first, it's EG btw.


Yes but I don't want to get into my thoughts about this as I've already done in the TLO's blog and the Milkis thread. What's done is done. Also I was referring to Alex Garfield (AG) who contacted Puma.
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
July 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#17
Thanks for doing this.

They're blaming Puma more than anyone else, that's kind of interesting. Reading this, i remembered sir scoots explaining once that their way to go is to ask the player if he's interested first and then arrange something with the managers (so as to not negotiate for players that don't want to sign with them). I'm thinking now they were just doing the usual, but Puma took the initiative after they asked him and beat them in speed. Mind you i haven't listened to WoC, maybe they gave an(other?) explanation of that already?
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
July 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#18
Seems like they are not flaming as hard as the foreign scene..


thx alot for translating.
If you dont do it, someone else will
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#19
On July 23 2011 09:05 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:01 sereniity wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:00 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:59 sereniity wrote:
Thanks for the translating, always interesting to see how the koreans react to these kind of things! I still don't get why people are mad at EG, PuMa personally told EG not to talk to his coach but rather let him talk to him HIMSELF, he didn't do so until days later and now EG are taking the shit, kind of ridicolous if you ask me...


Puma did not tell AG not to talk to the coach, he just said he'll talk to the coach. stop twisting the facts. anyways but this is all coming from AG, I guess we'll never hear Puma's side of the story.


I'm pretty sure they both agreed to let PuMa talk to his coach first, it's EG btw.


He means Alex Garfield.

ah thanks, edited now
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:09:46
July 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#20
Oh no, you've translated Korean opinions to English concerning the matter. Alex may come out and accuse you of biased journalism that is threatening EG as you have not asked for a statement from them!

But in all honesty, I see the Korean opinions aren't too dissimilar to the ones expressed on Team Liquid, I think most of the foreign scene seem to think that PuMa is a better player than what the Koreans believe though.
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