[M] Steppes of Bore

On August 27 2011 12:08 Namrufus wrote:
I think the map is improved from the last version you posted.

If you want to make the natural smaller, I think that you should simply move the face of the natural toward the center of the map closer to the minerals and bring the expansions in the corner slightly closer to the nat.

If it were me, I would do something like this:
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You could also enlarge the main into the natural to reduce the size of the natural.

edit: also, for aesthetics, my suggestion is to replace that green xil rock texture in the main and nat with a brick texture from aiur or belshir, SC2 rock textures of that type just look really bad when used in large areas imo.

edit2:
it looks like the newest versions of the analyzer are here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=162365
you should try it, it's really useful.

On August 30 2011 22:09 HypertonicHydroponic wrote:
Hey, I took a spin on your map since you've been so since to bump my two map threads and here are my thoughts:

(I know this point isn't that important to you but...) To me the geometrical asthetic is more important than the actual textures/doodads and I think that your latest version is not too bad in that regard.

On to stuff you do care about:

~ Someone else mentioned changing the ramp out of the main. I got P on this playing random and I have to say it was tricky to figure out exactly where to place my buildings for the choke. I did wind up making a choke but it took my an extra pylon to fill the right gap. I didn't play around with it any more than a single game, but you might want to play around with it a bit and figure out optimal wall off arrangements for P/T and maybe use some Add Texture to the spots where these buildings should go to make it more intuitive for first time map users so this does not wind up turning them off. At least that's what I would do if I didn't want to change the shape of the choke for some reason.

~ Also, since this is supposed to be a remake of steppes (or at least based on it), which I assume you wanted to make a more friendly remake, I thought that the ramp out of the natural, was actually less friendly as far as holding a push is concerned. It seems much easier to just get in up the ramp since the path is so straightforward. There isn't as much wrap around and pathing getting stuck on the corner of the ramp/cliff the way there is on steppes if you just A-move. Also I think the lack of LOSB actually make it more friendly to the attacker since they never really have to worry what is in front of them before the ramp. This may be intended and I don't know if it is better or worse, but that is my impression.