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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 01 2011 13:28 GMT
#71
/in heard(read) a lot of good about WaW mafias
Also hi Drazerk :>
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 02 2011 16:18 GMT
#85
/out
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 03 2011 09:00 GMT
#95
/in sorry for that :3
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 04 2011 20:23 GMT
#109
Are there no roles in this game? Or am i missing something :s
Each Faction has a gimmick in the name of their players. Only the country and the leader of each country will be revealed here until players start dying

What do you mean with a gimmick in the name of their players? This is going to be one chaotic game :3
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 05 2011 07:23 GMT
#168
I propose the following:
Medic and medic related roles, mafia will most likely shoot confirmed townies/people that are very likely town, protect them. This will make it way harder for the mafia to pick good targets and will encourage the blues to be pro town, etc.Forces mafia to kill lurkers/not so pro town people if they want to get a guaranteed kill.

Now here is an interesting bit:
If we have a confirmed scum by either a DT claim or obvious slip etc etc etc, he will get nuked and the town lynches someone else

Why? This is an information game, Mafia will just bus the obvious scum and we waste one day of perfectly good information. With other words lynching the guy wont give us any clues to who else is scum. But this will only apply in the rare situation someone is very clearly scum.

That seems to be the perfect situation for the use of nukes, and lets use them sparsely otherwise.
(that means if there is a lot of doubt about him we just lynch the guy, if even the mafia stopped defending we nuke him, not wasting our lynch)

Now lets make another rule, No Green lists. Seriously this shit only helps mafia, by giving them targets and giving them something innocent to discuss. Dont.

Agreed?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 05 2011 07:41 GMT
#170
please note that my plan isnt a plan just to use nukes, normally vigis would do the 'nuking'
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 05 2011 18:30 GMT
#349
##:Operation Dunkirk
Its the only thing that will really help us, option 3 is just pure pessimism. If we cant control our trigger finger its gg regardless and will #3 only buy us time.
Option 2 seems viable but it wont hurt the mafia the tiniest bit to lose 3 nukes, since they are with about 5-7 they have 10+ nukes.
i cant think of a situation where they would miss 3 nukes
In the current (good) atmosphere nukes are suicide bombs, there is no way a scum will be able to launch his second nuke. (the one which is probably taken away if #2 goes through)
Also i think GM is a conspirator, he wants people to do a daily nuke, dont anti the revenge nuke, and just carry on. His whole plan is based on everyone casting his nuke, wtf man
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 07:34 GMT
#466
##Vote: Mataza
Mataza what you are doing is terrible, you make GMarshal look sane. As far as im concerned Conspirators have NO priority by now. Lets please focus on scum now we got some discussion going.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 07:35 GMT
#468
i hate it when people do that -.-
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 08:28 GMT
#482
hey sandy, how do you know Mafia has 1kp? I kinda hate to vote on something that obvious.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 09:03 GMT
#495
rofl

On July 05 2011 22:32 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 22:17 GMarshal wrote:
On July 05 2011 22:08 chaos13 wrote:
On July 05 2011 21:41 Palmar wrote:
Here's what I think about your plan

##Nuke: Sandroba


Don't try to be a hero. Not only have you already stated you have no nukes, making this worthless and not about to help anything, but it's the night phase and you can't even use actions. If you don't agree with his plan, don't follow it. Simple as that. So far I'm seeing ten pages of "herp" "derp" "herp" "derp".
I don't agree with any of the plans that have been proposed, and people didn't agree with what I suggested in lieu of them. All this arguing is doing is giving scum and conspirators a barrier to hide behind, and I can guarantee you that the conspirator(s) are somewhere in this discussion trying to influence our nuke policies. Have we done any scumhunting so far? No.

So here's the deal. Come day 1, absolutely no more discussion about nuke policy. If we haven't decided on anything by then, too bad, but at that point we start scumhunting. This means that if you have a plan that you want put into effect, you need to be persuasive. If you have a plan, outline it as follows.

(Your Name)'s Plan for Not Letting the Conspirator Win

Nuke Policy
Fire/Don't Fire under the following circumstances:

Punishment
This is what happens if you break the rules:

Why
Explanation for why this is the best plan:

Support
How does this plan compare to WaW 1? How could it have affected the results of that game?

Other Tidbits
Anything else you want to say.

##Vote: (Your Name)'s Plan


And people will vote on your plan. The goal for these plans will be to have 12/29 players vote for them. This is relatively close to a majority, and is achievable for anyone. If we're getting close to the end of day and no plan is close to achieving it, you'll have to consider moving your vote to a different one. If no plan results in 12/29 votes, we don't follow through with it. If we do, every player is required to follow it, and if you do not, you are lynched. A plan must follow the format as outlined above in order to be eligible for voting.

Now stop derping and get stuff done.

Im pretty sure theres only like 3 hours to game start. Anyway we are using the sandroba plan with majority vote unless someone (other than Palmar) objects strenuously.


GMrobas's Plan for Not Letting the Conspirator Win

Nuke Policy
One nuke is shot per day, if a majority of players (50%) agrees to it. no other nukes are fired for any reason

Punishment
Policy lynched, no excuses allowed, you fire, you die.

Why
double lynch, increased information, decent use of kp, no need to fire if its not necessary/an appropriate target cannot be deiced upon

Support
Its not a clusterfuck

Other Tidbits
Hi coag.

##Vote: GMroba's plan


First of all thanks Caller for such a great mechanic for us to argue over...

I fully agree with this we should just use the nukes as the majority see's it ( although I would personally have it a bit higher % or scum may be able to vote swing it if we have undecided townies around ) this way we don't fall into the conspirator's hand with all the nukes going off.

As I do not have any nukes I will put my trust in those that do and hope they do not screw it up.


On July 06 2011 02:29 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 02:17 syllogism wrote:
Even if there are only 2 or 3 boreritish commanders, it still looks better than the alternatives. Destroying 3 nukes is pretty nice, but mafia likely can't use nukes until mid to late-game and it's quite possible for them to die without using all their nukes. Moreover, nukes can be shot down


I sort of agree Provided if everyone sticks to our plan we should not see any nukes fired for a long time making option 2/3 pretty pointless, I would rather have 2-3 Confirmed veterans running around ( Also presuming they maintain their abilities ) than the mafia not being able to use 3 nukes they wasn't able to use anyway.

Also Caller you are a true baller for giving us these campaign options.


##:Operation Dunkirk


On July 06 2011 03:31 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:24 Caller wrote:
On July 06 2011 02:24 GMarshal wrote:
On July 06 2011 02:22 syllogism wrote:
Extra lives work against nukes as well, no?

No.

A nuke wipes you from the face of the earth.

Night kills are like invasions, and extra lives are additional troops/fortifications.

Nukes don't give a damn if you have a mechanized division instead of cavalry, its still going to kill you.

false.

extra lives count against missiles launched.

it will be expended if the missile is a real nuke OR a dud.


Caller you are a man of great knowledge and I thank you for pointing us on the right path.

With this in mind the only real reason we would now chose options 2/3 is if the radiation levels get to high but we are able to keep under control pretty easily provided we stick to GM's plan.

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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 14:32 GMT
#566
On July 06 2011 22:42 Navillus wrote:
Hi people I'm back for 1 quick post and will be back in full in a few hours, but we need to keep hard to our policy, the point of policies is that no one can break them without being taken out instantly and with full town backing, this will prove to mafia that they cannot fire nukes and live, otherwise they will, not might, will follow mataza's example and we will get a shitstorm of nukes. Frankly we have a really really good policy going and should be suspicious of anyone trying to break it, and should make it as difficult as we possibly can to weaken or get rid of this policy, this means we have to lynch mataza. In the mean time move on to other analysis while we wait for him to die

fuck policy he just nuked out of nowhere. It shouldnt take a policy to take him out. However we made a mistake. Voting on him is the dumbest thing we can do.
This is whats going to happen : we lynch him, he will flip black or red, i dont care. Next day we wake up AND WE HAVE NOTHING.
No information is going to be gained today, Mafia will just Happily bandwagon along with the rest of the town.
We have to nuke him.
Not only that but we also have to kill his nuke, because if it is going to hit and Sandy loses it its over.
Lets not screw ourselves over and start day 2 with no information,
The WLR stays the same but we at least kill this stupid bandwagon.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 14:47 GMT
#571
Chaos your just announcing that the guy you voted on is probably not mafia, and find it sad that you HAVE to hop on the bandwagon. You already commited to calling him scum with your vote, but now there is a path with even less resistance and you just hop there. Not on my watch,
##Unvote: Mataza
##Vote: Chaos13
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 14:59 GMT
#578
On July 06 2011 23:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 23:47 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Chaos your just announcing that the guy you voted on is probably not mafia, and find it sad that you HAVE to hop on the bandwagon. You already commited to calling him scum with your vote, but now there is a path with even less resistance and you just hop there. Not on my watch,
##Unvote: Mataza
##Vote: Chaos13


Caller is a great man.

There is no point in having a Policy if we don't enforce it as Conspirators / scum will just abuse the mechanics too much and see us all dead

im all about enforcing the policy, but we shouldnt do that by lynching the guy. He should be nuked since policylynches are Mafia heaven, all mafia will blend in and keep whatever the town has to work with to an absolute zero. If this goes through we will be talking about not using nukes on day 2 as well, which would screw us over tremendously.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:08 GMT
#584
On July 06 2011 23:57 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
I agree on GMarshal, for the reasons you stated and due to his initial choice of campaign and the reasoning behind it. It seemed to me there was initially some coordinated effort to get use to go for that campaign, though perhaps that's too daring. If Palmar flips red, I will definitely be pushing to get GMarshal lynched, barring some new information pointing to other direction


Yep, I'm scum because I thought extra lives didn't apply to nukes, great catch. You realize you are FoSing pretty much every vocal player out there, right? The people that talk can be worrisome, sure, but right now we have to worry about those who aren't talking.

If you think i'm scum I welcome any case you may have, otherwise don't just say "is scum for wanting to destroy mafia nukes" that seems to make little sense.

I know your active lurking and very defensive by know, but more interesting stuff has happened than what syllo said about you, what are your thoughts on the situation?
Lynch or nuke ?
Anti or dead sandy?
chaos13?
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:16 GMT
#587
that song is called 3 little birds, not everything gonna be alright -.-
+ Show Spoiler +
LYNCH ALL LIARS
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:27 GMT
#592
dont get me wrong i hate meta, its just that you pop your head up every time your name is mentioned. And the usual technical stuff, which i forgive you. Now that we discussed it all and good, and Drazerk and Palmar tactically spammed the thread up can we nuke Mataza. This self destructive behaviour of the town has to stop. And NO hes claiming america, who cares. If you are going to change your vote because of 'soft claims' and other subliminal messages, im going to lose my mind.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:33 GMT
#595
wait there is a SK? Thats nowhere in the op, if thats a slip it is the most obvious one ive ever seen.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:35 GMT
#598
I vote to nuke Mataza
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#599
Also DT check OPZ the difference between a SK and a conspirator is quite huge.
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