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Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
June 09 2011 15:06 GMT
#1
I bumped into this video recently.

"A third party program is any file or program that is not a part of the StarCraft II software, but is used to gain an advantage in the game, ...

If a player is found to have used such a program, he/she may: Be temporarily suspended from the game Have further action taken, up to and including account closure, based on the intent of the program"

-Blizzard


What do you guys think about the video that Steelseries posted on their channel?

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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 09 2011 15:08 GMT
#2
The comments in the page tell the story. It's illegal and stupid, you only get banned for using such software.

Poor move by Steelseries. Guess i'll buy a Razer next.
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
June 09 2011 15:09 GMT
#3
I think Grubby was asked to do a commercial in exchange for some money, and of course he accepted because he is a rational human being.

That being said, it is a major FAIL from Steelseries to promote something that is against Blizzard's ToS not only in tournament, but also in ladder gaming or custom games.

Moral of the story? Grubby made some money, Steelseries' credibility has been hindered, commercial will be removed soon.
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RmpL
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:11:36
June 09 2011 15:09 GMT
#4
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion. Grubby is not the one to blame here.
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
June 09 2011 15:10 GMT
#5
That was a bit unexpected, but I bet he gets like a ton of money to do that video. Got surprised though, I wouldn't do that if I was a big e-sports profile, and I don't think grubby is broke?
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 09 2011 15:10 GMT
#6
Grubby is just plugging his sponsor, nothing wrong with it. It's steelseries product, if you have an issue with this kind of advertisement, take it up with them.
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Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
June 09 2011 15:10 GMT
#7
They at least covered Grubby in the description of the video:

Disclaimer: Macro's are usually not legal in public StarCraft II tournaments, but can be a good tool when no playing competitively. Grubby, being a professional player, naturally is not using these features on a day-to-day basis - but is simply demonstrating the use of the keyboard and software


I guess they don't address the fact that macros aren't supposed to be used in any Starcraft game done through Battle.net. :/
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:14:13
June 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#8
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion.

It really doesn't matter if it is justified or not : Blizzard stated it's against ToS of BattleNet, so SC2 players musn't use it. It's their game after all, they set up the rules the way they want those rules to be.
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Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
June 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#9
I was wondering the same when I saw that commercial.
Not the smartest move ever by Steelseries to promote it like this.
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
June 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#10
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion. Grubby is not the one to blame here.


using macro keys to do more than 1 command (such as setting a mouse button to press shift + r) is against tos, however if u set a mouse key as (r) thats fine
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Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
June 09 2011 15:12 GMT
#11
Haha I love Grubby, think steelseries is really just trying to appeal to lower skill level players, not really meant to demonstrate how to cheat in tournaments and whatnot. Just demonstrating the use of their software and keyboard, harmless really.
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RmpL
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany263 Posts
June 09 2011 15:12 GMT
#12
On June 10 2011 00:11 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion.

It really doesn't matter if it is justified or not : Blizzard stated it's against ToS of BattleNet, so players playing SC2 musn't use it. It's their game after all, they set up the rules the way they want those rules to be.


I wasnt aware of that, sorry. In this case, Steelseries fucked up, but again, don't blame Grubby for making easy cash
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 09 2011 15:13 GMT
#13
interesting and funny. i wonder how many people are using this lol i mean, god bless the growth of esport.
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Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
June 09 2011 15:13 GMT
#14
Grubby just doing what his sponsors want him to do i think. Im disappointed by steel series though
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
June 09 2011 15:13 GMT
#15
On June 10 2011 00:12 RmpL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 00:11 Ahelvin wrote:
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion.

It really doesn't matter if it is justified or not : Blizzard stated it's against ToS of BattleNet, so players playing SC2 musn't use it. It's their game after all, they set up the rules the way they want those rules to be.


I wasnt aware of that, sorry. In this case, Steelseries fucked up, but again, don't blame Grubby for making easy cash

That was exactly my first answer : Good move from Grubby, nice fail from Steelseries .
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 15:14:29
June 09 2011 15:14 GMT
#16
Nobody is blaming Grubby, the faulty part is on SteelSeries side.
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mustache
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland309 Posts
June 09 2011 15:14 GMT
#17
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?


how about that you can do in one click what others would have to do in several? if you seriously cannot fathom how macros are cheating then there is something wrong with you
stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
June 09 2011 15:15 GMT
#18
You shouldn't use these macros, but frankly they aren't really that great an advantage. Any decent player would never need to use these.
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
June 09 2011 15:15 GMT
#19
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?

To answer to your post: Its totally fine in my opinion, what is not fine here is the Thread title .. but thats just my opinion. Grubby is not the one to blame here.


A macro allows you to do two (or more) actions in the time that it takes to normally do one. It's an unfair advantage. Now obviously this isn't going to be game breaking at lower levels, but when you're masters league or higher, where the speed at which you do your actions really makes or breaks a game, it's not fair.
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emesen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States256 Posts
June 09 2011 15:15 GMT
#20
On June 10 2011 00:09 RmpL wrote:
How is using simple keyboard macros cheating?


because it is?
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