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The Liquid Weekly #35

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The Liquid Weekly #35

Text byriptide
Graphics byKennigit
April 21st, 2011 09:02 GMT

From Istanbul to Incheon.

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Quick Links

Liquid` Sightings

Going Global
Liquid on a Plane.

TLO Withdraws from EPS
Official statement included.

This Week In Replays



Liquid at Copenhagen Games - Today


Our two European representatives, TLAF-Liquid`TLO and TLAF-Liquid`Ret will be in Copenhagen today to begin their run at the Copenhagen Games 2011 title. Rubbing shoulders with the likes of MC, TheWind, Grubby, ClouD and MorroW, they will fight it out for the $8500+ prize pool. [More]

Liquid in StarsWar - 23rd April 2011


TLAF-Liquid`Jinro, TLAF-Liquid`TLO, TLAF-Liquid`Ret and TLAF-Liquid`HuK will be on stream live during StarsWar today, playing against the likes of HongUn, MorroW, Comm and san in this invitational tournament, the winners of which will fly to Shanghai, China for the finals. [More]

Liquid in GSL - 23rd and 26th April 2011


GSL May kicked off this week and two Liquidians will be taking to the tilesets in Code-S this time. It's been a while since we've had two of our players in this category and we look forward to seeing what Jinro and HuK can deliver. Jinro plays San on the 23rd and HuK gears up to take on Inca on the 26th. [More]

Liquid in NASL - On going


TLAF-Liquid`TLO snagged the sole win for his team in NASL Week 1, going 2-0 against ViBE. HayprO, Ret and Tyler all dropped their games and no doubt go into Week 2 looking for retribution. [More]



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Liquid at Copenhagen Games - Today


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Our two European representatives, TLAF-Liquid`TLO and TLAF-Liquid`Ret will be in Copenhagen today to begin their run at the Copenhagen Games 2011 title. Rubbing shoulders with the likes of MC, TheWind, Grubby, ClouD and MorroW, they will fight it out for the $8500+ prize pool.

TLO and Ret have both been successful in European LANs these past few months, and we'd like to see them go all the way this time. Here are our two heroes' opening matches. Join us in the LR thread and on IRC in just a few hours as we follow their progress live and check out tournament thread for more information.

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Group 16
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Liquid in StarsWar - 23rd April 2011


TLAF-Liquid`Jinro, TLAF-Liquid`TLO, TLAF-Liquid`Ret and TLAF-Liquid`HuK will be on stream live during StarsWar today, playing against the likes of HongUn, MorroW, Comm and san in this invitational tournament, the winners of which will fly to Shanghai, China for the semi-finals and finals.

If the $8400 prize pool doesn't convince you, just look at these brackets.

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This many good player, yes?

Be sure to be here with us on TL as we watch our team storm another tournament. Liquid fighting!


Liquid in GSL - 23rd and 26th April 2011


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GSL May kicked off this week and two Liquidians will be taking to the tilesets in Code-S this time. It's been a while since we've had two of our players in this category and we look forward to seeing what Jinro and HuK can deliver. Jinro plays San on the 23rd and HuK gears up to take on Inca on the 26th.

Having recently returned from the Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational, Jinro and HuK sat down with us for a chat about the GSL and their international adventures in Going Global. Here are their games, so be sure you're here on Saturday and Tuesday to root for them live. It's GSL time again!

Group E
[image loading] (T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading] (P)NSHoSeo_San
[image loading] (T)TSL_Clide vs. [image loading] (Z)IMNesTea

Group H
[image loading] (Z)ST_July vs. [image loading] (T)TSL_Rain
[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`HuK vs. [image loading] (P)oGs.InCa


Liquid in NASL - On going


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TLAF-Liquid`TLO snagged the sole win for his team in NASL Week 1, going 2-0 against ViBE. HayprO, Ret and Tyler all dropped their games and no doubt go into Week 2 looking for retribution.

TLO played his Week 2 match earlier today, but the LW will not discuss his games for fear of spoiling readers. Check out the LR thread for discussion and be sure to catch Liquid's upcoming games this week!

North America: April 20th at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 21st at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (T)TLAF-Liquid`TLO vs. [image loading] (Z)mouzMorroW

North America: April 22nd at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 23rd at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`HayprO vs. [image loading](Z)ROOTSLush

North America: April 23rd at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 24th at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (Z)TLAF-Liquid`Ret vs. [image loading] (P)oGsMC

North America: April 24th at 9pm EDT / Europe: April 25th at 7pm CEST
[image loading] (P)TLAF-Liquid`Tyler vs. [image loading] (T)ROOTDrewbie



Liquid at DreamHack Stockholm Invitational - Event Finished


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Liquid's Dreamhack run didn't go as expected, with Jinro, TLO and HuK all being eliminated early on. Though we're as disappointed as they are about this, we're glad they had a good time in Stockholm. Yes, last week we announced that TLO is starting a team house over there and in case you missed it, here's Jinro in the newspapers and on Swedish TV.

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Find out more about Jinro, HuK and MC's adventures as they headed back to Korea in this week'spre-GSL interview.



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Look out, Samuel L. Jackson.

(Note: Liquid flew Turkish Airlines both to and from Dreamhack. The Starcraft plane is only shown here because it's awesome.)

Hi Jinro, Hi HuK! Welcome back to the Weekly. Happy to be back home in Incheon again?

Jinro: Of course!

HuK: Yes.


We heard the flight back wasn't too pleasant. What went wrong? Any lessons learned?

HuK: We missed our connection flight because the first flight was delayed due to problems with the plane. Not sure what it was, but it seemed serious. Once in Istanbul, we were herded with the rest of the cattle to try to rush to our connection flight, fail and that our flight was going to be a day later and that we would be spending the night in Turkey.

MC and Jinro passed by fine but when I went to cross the passport guy told me I needed to go back and get a visa. So I go to the visa place and try to get a visa and they tell me to take out money from the ATM. I go to the ATM and it wont accept my Canadian bank card or my Korean bank card.

I proceed back to the visa place and am told to go back to my airline. My airline tells me go back to the visa place, the visa place says they cant help me and the guy from the airline who escorted me basically bailed after that. I then go back to the passport guy and tell him what's going on. He says he cant help me to go to the police station on the other side.

So I go back to my airline desk (on the walk there I explain the situation to him) and once we get there the guy talks to someone at the counter then proceeds to walk away with them never to return. Afterwards, I meet Jinro at passport clearing and tell him to take out money for me.

He returns later with Turkish money. I tell him that I needed euro, and he goes back and brings me some. Then, the passport guy wont let us exchange money over the little shitty fucking gate they have there. He tells us to walk down to the police station to exchange the measly 60 euro or whatever the fuck it was. After convincing the policemen to let him give me the money, I go to buy my visa and cross the border. At every point, every single person involved in this process was extremely rude, unhelpful, and generally, an asshole.

After that, the stay and flight back were pleasant.


Jinro: OK, so we are all just sitting there waiting at Arlanda and everything seems normal, right? Then, we get to 30 minutes before boarding and there's not a single airport staff member in the entire room, and a bunch of people are starting to wonder wtf is going on. Sooooo, after not finding a single board with information anywhere, and the board over our gate saying LONDON instead of ISTANBUL, I venture up a staircase, find a security type guy who lets me through to check out an info board. Here we discover two things:

1) They changed the gate for our flight without telling anyone (same room, but still).

2) Our plane has a smoking engine. Cue 1+ hour delay.

We land in Istanbul, they fuck around a bunch about where we are supposed to go, we miss our plane. We try to go through customs, they let me and MC through but tell Chris they don't like him because hes American (actually they just said he needs a VISA), and tell him to pay for a VISA. He tries to grab money from ATM, fails with both Korean and American card, asks me to grab money... I search half the airport, find out I have to go outside the airport to take out money, ask if I can come back in if I do, get told no.

Go on tilt, talk to another guy who tells me first guy was incorrect. I get 100e in Turkish Lire, run back to Chris, only to be told that no, they do not accept Turkish lire. What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency? OK, back to ATM, find a different one that lets me take out euro instead, run back, give money to Chris... or I would have but the customs guys stops me and tells me I have to go through the police to give it to him.

... which I eventually succeed at doing. They find us a hotel (which had very nice food, and was nice overall), and we spend the next day playing Wesnoth on my laptop while waiting for our plane which didn't leave until midnight.


Jinro, you begin your GSL Code S run this month against San. How do you feel about this match?

Jinro: I feel I have a scary group but if I can win the first game I have a decent chance, so I'm focusing on that.


If you look back at the first time you played Code S, what similarities and differences do you see between your approach back then and the way you look at the event now?

It's routine now... basically.


If there was one thing you could tell your rookie self as you headed out to play your first Code S match, what would it be?

Not much to tell, I was super prepared practice wise and everything else comes from doing not hearing.

Awesome. Good luck on Saturday, Jinro! We look forward to seeing you live!


HuK, this is your first time in Code S and you're going to face your house mate Inca. What are your thoughts on this series? Will the fact that you know him so well make it easier or more difficult to play him?

HuK: I think Inca is the favorite, his PvP is really good. But I hope to do well overall and move on. It's PvP so nothing matters.


What does it feel like heading into GSL Code S? This was your goal all along of course, but now that you're here, just a week away from your games, what's going through your head?

My goal was to win GSL, not make it to Code S. All that's on my mind is to continue that pursuit.


You've played a ton of tournaments this past year. Does the GSL feel any different to you or is it just same old, same old to you now?

Well, the GSL is obviously the golden egg among white shells but other than that it's another tournament. The biggest, sure, but in the end they're all the same.

All right! Good luck, HuK! We look forward to seeing you on stream next Tuesday.



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As already announced by the ESL, Liquid player Dario "Liquid`TLO" Wünsch confirms his withdrawal from the German ESL Professional Series. Dario will not be able to play in the tournament due to a scheduling conflict with MLG Columbus, a tournament that he has to participate in due to contractual obligations.

The exact dates for EPS were not publicly announced but the week was (and the weekend as such was implied). This lead to a communication problem where the fact that it would most likely be in the MLG weekend slipped by our scheduling until two weeks ago. At this moment Dario was already committed to MLG because of his sponsor Sony Ericsson. At the time of hearing the EPS dates, at that point still not publicly announced but only implied, we heard about the exact dates from someone with insider knowledge making us aware of the scheduling conflicts between the two tournaments. We immediately informed the EPS of this issue and they asked for some time to think of a solution.

You are hearing about Dario withdrawing 8 days in advance not because we waited that long, but because EPS used this time to look for a solution. Near the end of this internal EPS process; TL and EPS agreed to an announcement date on the 21st of April, something which they failed to adhere to and as such delivered an incomplete press release that did not give us a fair chance to explain the situation.

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Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.

Here is Dario's official statement on the matter.

Wie nun bereits frühzeitig angekündigt wurde, werde ich mich leider aus der EPS zurückziehen müssen, da die EPS Finals und MLG Columbus am gleichen Wochenende stattfinden. Vertragliche Verpflichtungen binden mich daran an jeder MLG teilzunehmen, daher kann ich leider keine Ausnahme machen. Ich bin sehr traurig darüber und kann verstehen das die Community sauer ist.

Ich habe nie um eine Sonderbehandlung gefragt, bin aber sehr dankbar das die ESL mir so eine Chance gegeben hat. Ich hoffe, das große Turnierveranstalter sich künftig besser absprechen um in der Zukunft so etwas zu vermeiden.

Es stand für mich außer Frage weiterhin an der EPS teilzunehmen und das Turnier eventuell noch stärker zu verzerren. Ich möchte mich bei allen die sich auf das IFNG Match zwischen Socke und mir gefreut haben entschuldigen und auch bei Socke selbst der nun vorerst keine chance auf eine Revanche bekommen kann.

Dario Wünsch, 21st April 2011

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As already announced by ESL, I have to withdraw from the EPS. I am very sorry about that but I am obliged to go to every MLG event. I am very sad and can understand the community is angry, especially those who wanted to go to the INFG and can't see me play vs Socke now.

I never asked for a extra treatment from the ESL, but I am very grateful they gave me such a great chance. I hope in the future that the big event organisers will communicate better to avoid scheduling conflicts like this from happening.

It was out of question for me to continue playing EPS after knowing that I wouldn't be able to make it to the finals, as I didn't want to mess up the tournament even more. To my fans I would like to say that I'm truly sorry and want to take this opportunity to apologise to Socke as well. I was looking forward to a rematch of Dallas.

Dario Wünsch, 21st April 2011




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Awesome as per usual, thanks!
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April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
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Awesome, Tyler's rep pack. Much appreciated!
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Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:11:03
April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#4
Can't watch Jinro's interview . (Nvm got it working)

Thanks for the updates!
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Australia624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:11:27
April 21 2011 09:11 GMT
#5
On April 21 2011 18:02 riptide wrote:
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Contrary to popular belief, Dario cannot be in two places at the same time.



For shame TeamLiquid, for shame.

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United States266 Posts
April 21 2011 09:17 GMT
#6
That sucks, i really hate it when tournaments' schedule conflict.
Well at least they have a replay pack! yea
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Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 21 2011 09:22 GMT
#7
So, bottom line, TLO's sponsorship deal with Sony Ericcson is preventing him from being able to participate in EPS. Sadness.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 21 2011 09:25 GMT
#8
tournament schedule concflicts... <.<
seriously, tournament organizers should communicate more with each other before setting a date for a big event...
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April 21 2011 09:37 GMT
#9
What would be absolutely amazing would be Jinro's interview with subtitles.
Ace newsletter anyways!
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Sweden516 Posts
April 21 2011 09:49 GMT
#10
I guess it's a matter of what league is more prestigious as well. Even though MLG had it's bumps, it beats any non-international league. I'm glad TLO gets to travel to MLG
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Holgerius
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Sweden16951 Posts
April 21 2011 09:51 GMT
#11
Lol, sounds like a fun flight. :D

Good weekly as always!
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Profile Joined September 2010
141 Posts
April 21 2011 10:08 GMT
#12
It is shitty what happened to Huk/Jinro at the airport. I would rage so hard if it happen to me.
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Canada2732 Posts
April 21 2011 10:13 GMT
#13
Awesome. Jinro plays Battle for Wesnoth.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
April 21 2011 10:18 GMT
#14
Turkish Airlanes and the airport of Istanbul are the worst things that happened to me while traveling. They are unorganized and rude. Can't blame you guys for hating on them, they deserve it.

Also sad to hear that TLO can't participate in the EPS Finals, but contracts always have a downside...
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Sweden1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 10:25:10
April 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#15
On April 21 2011 18:37 TigerKarl wrote:
What would be absolutely amazing would be Jinro's interview with subtitles.
Ace newsletter anyways!


That interview was so awkward due to reporters lack of insight into gaming world. Jinro tried his best but... It is best left unwatched.

Thank you so much for Liquid Weekly, I look forward to it all week!
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Hungary900 Posts
April 21 2011 10:28 GMT
#16
Lol at turkish doesnt accept turkish currency... though it saddens me when i think about our bureaucrats most likely would be just as an obstacle in any way :S
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 21 2011 10:42 GMT
#17
How come Turkish doesn't accept Turkish currency lol
It's a shame that esl doesn't include TLO's statement. Not the first time they do this though.

Jinro fighting!
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Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 21 2011 10:47 GMT
#18
So this is basically the announcement we were supossed to be waiting for? This doesnt change things at all nor does it make TLO look any better, he is basically just saying: hey im sorry T_T
Im still very sad and disaoppointed since the IFNG in Berlin would have been the first and maybe the single time ever that I could have TLO play -.-
But what is most frustrating is the date of the announcement, why just 8 days before the game vs Socke?? Me and my friends are probably still going to the IFNG but everything is just much less exciting without TLO vs Socke

Still a nice weekly; the most awesome sentence of the Jinro/Huk interview: "What the fuck kind of country doesn't take their own currency?" ahahaha
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United Kingdom2108 Posts
April 21 2011 10:57 GMT
#19
aaaaaaaand the german community goes mad :3 there is a reason why i don't really like it ~.~

User was warned for this post
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Ireland1272 Posts
April 21 2011 11:02 GMT
#20
Great afternoon for studyOOOOH REPLAYS!
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