The Liquid Weekly #35 - Page 4

On April 21 2011 23:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Its not like they knew this schedule conflict would happen when they signed the contract lol

OF COURSE this is acceptable.

On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

On April 21 2011 23:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Really a mirror of our own experience -_-; Turkish Airlines on-board staff = no complaints at all, good food too... However the guys working at the customs check... God, so unhelpful -__-

At least we found a few helpful souls at the airport, seemingly nicer the further you get away from customs!

they let me and MC through but tell Chris they don't like him because hes American

On April 22 2011 01:38 fueNN wrote:


let's put this into perspective:

ESL had its rules changed to give TLO the chance to qualify for the second season of SC2 ESL Pro Series which was pretty controversial within the german community and put a pretty bad light onto the ESL.

ESL then scheduled two offline Events during the Playoffs, where one single match is to be played and crew, casters, equipment, visitors are all just there for this match in berlin. they had a community-poll about which match is to be played, the TLO - Socke game won. he basically gave all his german fans who are traveling to berlin to watch him play the middle finger.

it is OF COURSE unaccetable to withdraw from this match and the whole event, and to be honest, I think it's absolutly neccessary to ban TLO from any future ESL competitions.

User was temp banned for this post.

On April 22 2011 03:46 ZeraToss wrote:


welcome to turkey, lol
im turkish, and what i can tell is, that the people at the airports are some completely idiot and unhelpful ppl. but pls dont think whole turkey is like that, it isnt, turkish ppl are "usually" really helpful. Somehow the airport guys are faggots.
just my 2 cents

On April 22 2011 01:03 Nicodemusher wrote:

I died.

On April 22 2011 02:03 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
Link to the EPS announcement?

I sympathize with you guys trying to deal with customs at the airport in Istanbul. I flew through there a few years ago and had similar problems. I had a 3 hour layover with some German colleagues, and we all wanted to go out and have a kebab or something and just tool around Istanbul for a bit. The Germans could go through customs just fine and dandy, but they wanted me (the American) to buy a $30 Visa. For two hours in Turkey? Are you fucking crazy? I pretty much told those customs officers to fuck themselves.

Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story.

On April 22 2011 05:03 Scrutinizer wrote:


It is for the foreigners who needs a Visa to enter the country, it is not weird that it won't be paid in local currency. It is in fact a convenience for the foreigners, I cant imagine a foreigner could pay for the visa in their own country's currency at John F. Kennedy airport.



Wow hold on there, do you have any idea how are the citizens of Turkey are treated in customs of States, and how difficult it is to acquire a visa even after the needlessly harsh treatment. And you can bet that it wont end good for you if you tell the US customs staff to fuck themselves.

I am sure a lot of turkish officials at the customs are assholes, and as Jinro already put, them and their attitudes were the only problem. But that doesn't imply any more things than that.

That is not directly about the political relations you kinda mentioned, it is more about this undisclosed "treat the x country's citizens as our citizens are treated at x" thing in customs. Especially the retarded assholes amongst the turkish customs officials can only be happy to proceed the way their counterparts at the US do.


"Turkey has a pretty ugly history of political relations with the United States. Something about Reagan and airfields (access point to the Middle East)... don't really know the whole story."

You can talk about a story that even you mention that you don't know about? that is neat.
Turkey has been one of the founding countries of NATO, it was a member before Western Germany or Spain, There has even been a Turkish Deputy Secretary General for NATO.

Peace-out.