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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 15 2011 21:24 GMT
#77
Can I get in on this? My spring break went to shit so I need something to do lol
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 16 2011 14:21 GMT
#97
On March 16 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:09 Pandain wrote:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KENPACHI!!!

not in

thanks! but


Haha how old?

(Happy Birthday!!)
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 14:45:49
March 17 2011 14:41 GMT
#114
On March 17 2011 01:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
AMBER! Where you been broski?


New job brah no more working at home. My spoiled life has come to a sad end
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 25 2011 00:53 GMT
#832
On March 25 2011 09:49 annul wrote:
hahahahahahah

ive only been arguing this entire time that bum is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT confirmed.

can he be blue? sure. is he CONFIRMED? of course not.


We're not going to "confirm" a player in time to elect them for mayor. It's a necessary risk so I don't really understand why you're arguing the point.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 25 2011 22:29 GMT
#1126
On March 26 2011 05:34 GMarshal wrote:

Amber[Light] wherefore art thou? you have one post on page 42 or so and that is it. I want to see you post more or I might have to become suspicious, and if I become too suspicious I have to ensure your death, which would sadden me greatly. Alas some sacrifices must me made for the greater good of the town. So post damnit, your only post is one of the agree with the bum vote posts, I want some opinions from you!


Yah I know I haven't been active so far I was waiting for the Day post to come up before I began posting. I didn't really want to commit to a plan or begin constructing a plan until the game "officially" began. Besides that the annul spam-fest was becoming incredibly overwhelming so I just didn't even want to participate in that.

I think Bum would be a good mayor. I also feel like the election is a little too one-sided and it's worrying me a bit. I won't be voting for someone for the time being.

I just wanted to touch on one other post I spotted that is very important.

On March 26 2011 05:55 darmousseh wrote:
I'm not super active mostly because of work, but I will respond to pms from people in the item game. I'ts important we identify greens so we can work together.

I'm trying to decide who to vote for, but it looks like it doesn't matter since bum is leading. We can't lynch today, no one has really done or said anything interesting. On day 0-1, theres always too much speculation going around. The whole annul thing is probably blown out of proportion and i'm also talking to people in the item game since it's important to make sure that the baddies don't get their hands on those items.


The item game people
1. Coagulation - is not as crazy as normal.
2. darmousseh -thats me!
3. Jackal58 - not really anything interesting yet
4. annul - obviously of interest, but probably is town
5. Tackster - no idea
6. Lemonwalrus - nothing interesting


Finding the two baddies is very very important and we will need to focus lynch targets probably on that group, but at the same time if the mafia is smart, they will leave people there alive until the last moment in order to drag out the amount of time spent on deciding who to lynch. The 6 of us are obviously high night kill targets too so identifying the baddies is the most important thing right now.

My gut says coag is probably not town and that one of the newer players is also not town.



I gotta agree with this completely. The best way for a townie victory on the item game is to begin whittling down this list. The items will become very important later on as well [I hope].

I think Annul and Coagulation are two persons of interest. Annul is probably green. There's no way I could believe that someone who's been productively spamming this thread is red. Coagulation is not playing crazy. He's being punctual with his posts and it's not like his play from previous games. Then again his play from previous games looks nothing like his play from games before those. I am convinced that Coagulation is pro town, regardless of how much bb code he places on my name in a list.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 26 2011 15:40 GMT
#1432
On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote:
Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1
#1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum.
#2 I want medic protection over night.
#3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch.
#4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched.
#5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win.
#6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow.
#7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3
#8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle
#9 That's 8 vs the world
#10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us.
#11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot.
#12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2.
#13 Town wins.
#14 Scum sucks.
#15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing.
#16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!


It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it?


Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum?

Consensus.

I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up.

Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time.
If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation.


That's definitely not the case. As of right now he's given us good direction for the first day and it's not worth discounting him because of things like "I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town..."

I'm still a little lost on the item game concept other than the items are going to be beneficial later. Focusing on the item game players would be good if we want to get the item game over with. This is a huge risk though because if we mess up the items could go to another party. I think it should be up to the item game players to battle it out amongst each other in the thread. It's harder for the other 20+ players to just jump in and start throwing punches.

We should be focusing on other things like finding scummy players within the thread. I'm going to look into a couple of players outside of the item game who are playing differently. Don't count on this before the end of the day though, but I'll try to get it closer to ~8 PM tonight whenever I'm available again. For now I'm going to throw my mayor vote on bum just to avoid death. I still find it a bit unsettling that the election is almost entirely on bum. This isn't going to benefit us later for scum hunting.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 26 2011 17:39 GMT
#1458
On March 27 2011 02:35 Tackster wrote:
Thinking about it now if scum have a DT item then it does them no good really as far as the item game goes. That leaves them with other powers (such as a killing shot) with which they would be stronger. I assume that scum weren't given non-scummy items but since this is insane mafia and it's a mini-game then it's possible.

Anyway the point is if a town is lynched d1 and all the town use then even if none are killed at night scum could steal from 2 out of 3. That leaves us with little information to work with. If scum kill another town then that leaves us with almost no information...

Darmo what do you think of all greens agreeing to steal instead?


Wouldn't a DT item help scum identify black players? Or even blues? You shouldn't discount the strength of an ability because it seems protown. Would advise reading PYP mafia games if you don't agree...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 28 2011 02:12 GMT
#2067
I think it's pretty obvious some people were not happy with Annul during Day 1. Shame he was a bodyguard too the other bodyguard needs to keep himself out of the fray, if he hasn't already been removed from the massive arguments and nonsensical FOSing that was going on during Day 1 ;/
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#2070
Mixed up the people my bad
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 28 2011 04:18 GMT
#2211
On March 28 2011 13:00 Lanaia wrote:
@Kavdragon Will you be sharing with us the reason you think you were hit or would you prefer not to?


He doesn't think he was hit, he says he took a hit.

On March 28 2011 12:31 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, just got back online. I've not read up yet, but I took a hit last night.



Gotta account for this as well.

I really don't like this bandwagoning that's going on. Yah it's really suspicious that your hit got swapped but it just seems too convenient. We're allowing the trigger happy coag run the show. Are we going to see a townie fall today because of your short-sighted analysis?

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 02:09 GMT
#2674
On March 29 2011 10:58 GGQ wrote:
The argument that Tackster can't be mafia because he didn't know coagulation had the gun is fundamentally flawed. There's one thing that everyone, including coagulation, seems to be forgetting.

Coagulation claimed that he had a stun gun that would disable his target's power. That's why scum redirected Coagulation to annul; to disable annul's hot potato so that it wouldn't blow up and kill the other scum who was assigned to shoot annul. Meanwhile Tackster stole from jackal to prevent jackal from shooting him. That fact that Coagulation ended up shooting annul was completely accidental by the mafia.

Thus the 4 kp are as follows:

Red hit annul
Red hit Kav or Gmarshal
Black hit Kav or Gmarshal
Coag hit Tackster, but was redirected by scum to hit annul because scum thought that his stun gun would stop annul's potato from killing the scum who killed annul.

GG lynch Tackster


So are we confirming Coagulation as well under this assumption?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 14:29 GMT
#2776
On March 29 2011 22:29 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 22:25 Jackal58 wrote:
So if a black was hit why claim it?


Safest thing to do. No reason for a townie to stay quiet if he was hit. If it was a mafia hit, mafia would know he's black. If it was a vig hit, vig would know he's red/black.


This is pretty spot on. It'd standard to claim you were hit immediately after it happens. Hiding out and waiting for someone else to claim usually hurts more than helps.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 14:30 GMT
#2777
It's **

Sry posting from a cell phone -_-
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 21:07 GMT
#2902
On March 30 2011 05:43 tnkted wrote:
Sorry for spamming, I'm done now.

Lets look at the evidence against Tackster for a minute. What exactly is it? He was accused by Coag and Jackal of being mafia before night 1 even happened because...? anyone remember why?

Then on day 2, after GM etc died a plausible explanation for why Tackster was mafia suddenly emerged. Ironically, it came from, again, Coag and Jackal.

Lemon meanwhile contentedly watched the proceedings from the sidelines. Why didn't he defend Tackster? I mean, somebody just tallied up the votes, and absolutely none of them was any objective analysis of Tackster's play.

Hypothesis:
A new player will often tend to be more paranoid than an older player because the new player doesn't know what sort of behaviors are commonly trustable and which aren't. This is why you see me pointing FOS's at everybody who blinks twice; I don't know who is playing me for a fool.

Lemon didn't do that at all. He happily accepted Jackal and Coag's plan.

I am also considering switching my vote, although now IDK whether its between Jackal or Lemon.


FOS Jackal or Coag and see what players become the most paranoid.

Honestly Deconduo can you really blame me for the hardcore lurking? Excessive posts are extremely excessive. There's clearly a bunch of nooby mafia players in this game but the spam fest continues and continues. This is overwhelming. Remember guys less is more and this isn't a quantity battle. The game is not to see who screams the loudest.

I think the item game has really added a mind-fuck mechanic to this game that has got people going bonkers looking for one mafia member. I'm actually hoping that by tomorrow the item game is pretty much a thing of the past. I also realize that the only way to have a townie win is to get rid of the mafioso in the group.

Tack seems to be the best target, but don't forget.....When this item game is over, the mafia player in that game knows he is probably outted and more or less dead anyway. Would he even bother to put up a fight? Does an item game victory guarantee the mafia enough to salvage 1 life? Is tack just allowing himself to sink? I mean yah he's trying to keep himself alive but no one is really going towards his aid anyway.

If the town consensus is to go ahead and lynch Tack then I'll vote that way. He's either been abandoned by his own team or he's alone already and no one wants to really stick out their neck for him.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 21:50 GMT
#2927
On March 30 2011 06:21 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 06:17 LSB wrote:
On March 30 2011 05:26 chaoser wrote:
LSB, are blacks immune to bombs such as the hot potato?

I don't know if blacks are, usually they're immune to night hits which are bullets, not explosions like bombs.


Third party are immune from all KP unless explicitly stated that the KP can go through bulletproof.

In this case since the bomb did not state it goes through bulletproof, the third party is immune from it.


That's really different from regular bulletproof tbh... probably should have been stated in the OP. I've been operating on the assumption that they are just 'bullet' proof.


Most TL Mafia games [IIRC] state that 3rd party players with bulletproof are actually night kill proof [they only die to lynches], and I'm assuming most of the players in this game were playing this game with that same description in mind.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2011 22:07 GMT
#2930
On March 30 2011 07:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 06:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 30 2011 06:21 GGQ wrote:
On March 30 2011 06:17 LSB wrote:
On March 30 2011 05:26 chaoser wrote:
LSB, are blacks immune to bombs such as the hot potato?

I don't know if blacks are, usually they're immune to night hits which are bullets, not explosions like bombs.


Third party are immune from all KP unless explicitly stated that the KP can go through bulletproof.

In this case since the bomb did not state it goes through bulletproof, the third party is immune from it.


That's really different from regular bulletproof tbh... probably should have been stated in the OP. I've been operating on the assumption that they are just 'bullet' proof.


Most TL Mafia games [IIRC] state that 3rd party players with bulletproof are actually night kill proof [they only die to lynches], and I'm assuming most of the players in this game were playing this game with that same description in mind.

Uhh. There no difference between the bulletproof of Insane and other games.


I know. I'm agreeing with you.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 30 2011 23:19 GMT
#3329
On March 31 2011 07:18 tnkted wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but you should know: if you're going with this plan tonight, I will die. 100% certainty on that. I'm willing to do it, but you should be aware. Oh, and my plan will void roleblocks too so don't bother wasting any on me.

This is assuming that this other person doesn't get back to me.


Sometimes we get roles that require us to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the game. In the original insane mafia I was a zombie so the only way my KP would be useful was for me to die, so I tried as hard as possible to get the mafia to hate me enough to off me. You may not make it to the end but you're going to really help get the town get some good items for the future.

I think we should start looking at some of the people who fucked up last night and switched back and forth. We should also look at some of the people who didn't hop the bandwagon, including myself.

It's not as though I would have switched my vote. Coag you should know this more than anyone else in this game that the last time a last minute vote train was created it caused the mafia to be safe. I was on the other side of the glass in that scenario and even if I was able to switch my vote, I wouldn't have. There's no way I could sit there and believe that a last minute vote train wasn't somehow encouraged by mafia activity. My gut was wrong though and it sucks to have to bite that loss, but can you really blame the players who voted for tack and stuck with him after almost a unanimous vote? It seemed almost too certain.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 31 2011 03:43 GMT
#3502
What the hell is this? Is the arena still on or what? The rules aren't in the day post only in quotes from other people
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 03 2011 17:28 GMT
#3965
Wait why did ken suicide? Was that supposed to happen? Who was he targeting?

I've been suspicious of kav since night 2.

Didn't he say he "took a hit" one night? No one even came forward to say he was protected? If I missed that post I apologized, but I recall him claiming that he took a hit night 1.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 03 2011 17:53 GMT
#3970
On April 04 2011 01:16 CubEdIn wrote:
don't think it's insaneous. but i'll look through it tomorrow.

however, who did Kenpachi have his bombs on? Those would be confirmed blacks since none of them died.



On April 04 2011 01:20 tnkted wrote:
He only had one bomb. The other one was on GGQ and was lost when he died.



On April 04 2011 02:27 Lanaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 01:20 tnkted wrote:
He only had one bomb. The other one was on GGQ and was lost when he died.


It was on iGrok.


I see now I thought you were implying it was on GGQ and iGrok not Kav and iGrok. I'm catching up Saturday nights are never very good -_-
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