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TricksAre4Figs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
December 01 2010 05:01 GMT
#1
Here's the story. my AKA is tQsKuLLz and I was personally invited by Brandon, aka "FireFlash" to his cash prize $500 XBLGaming tournament. I felt quite privileged to be invited to this 64 player invitational and was looking forward to it. Finally, the ro64 began a week after the original participant list was announced here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171449

So my first round was vs player "Kizu" and he was a no show. I told this to Brandon who kept his status set on "busy" while casting each match one by one. I asked him how long we were to wait for late opponents but he did not give me a response for many hours. I saw a message from Brandon asking if my opponent had shown but couldn't respond since he had already logged off before I got to it. I checked the brackets and saw that my name had advanced to the ro32. So the day ends with everything in order.

But then, today, I hop on SC2 and start gaming. I see a broadcast from Brandon that the ro32 will begin in 10 minutes. I go to look at the bracket and am shocked to see eGLZGamer in my spot and my name removed from the bracket. I immediately message Brandon on SC2 asking why am I removed from the bracket. He didn't respond. I then went and opened the stream that he was casting on to check out the games and so I could see what he did with my message. I ask him again shortly thereafter am I still in the tourney? No response. I then say to him

"dude i see you ignoring my messages on ur stream. stop wasting my time and tell me if i'm in or not"
His reply
"yes"

Me, "ok i will b waiting ty"

So now I feel a little better but still confused as he goes on to begin casting the next game. I watch the stream and stuff without feeling too sure I was going to play or not. Brandon then broadcasted "everyone who hasnt played yet message me". So I go ahead and message him
"yo, haven't played yet and a little confused. am i surely still in this thing?"

His reply, "yes"

Me, "ok. on standby then"

So I watch the rest of the games on the stream not at all convinced that I'm actually going to be playing still as I heard Brandon aka "FireFlash" talking about remaining matches and results without mentioning my name. The last game ends and Brandon closes out the stream. My name is not mentioned. I message him again asking why did I get removed from the tournament? He didn't respond and removed me (real iD) from his friends.

So here I am feeling confused, disappointed and mislead. I ask here for Brandon to come forward with a reason for why I was removed from the bracket while other players were added in who were not part of the original roster. Those players are:

Skillet
Vansetsu
Zelniq

Thanks for reading and may this never again happen in sponsored tournaments that involve cash prizes. Thanks for reading.
Liquid crystal display everyday.
chiss
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia27 Posts
December 01 2010 05:08 GMT
#2
Sorry to hear it man. That really sucks, and is quite pathetic.

I've had some really frustrating experiences trying to contact event organizers too...

Just try to brush it off, and do your best in the next tournament!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 05:11:38
December 01 2010 05:10 GMT
#3
That sucks man dunno I'm not surprised though lots of tourney admins do this it seems just because he's known.
When I think of something else, something will go here
SuperRonnieGuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
December 01 2010 05:12 GMT
#4
Sounds pretty bad but it's alright, just move on and play in bigger and better tournaments.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
December 01 2010 05:13 GMT
#5
Sounds like a sucky situation to me, but still, what do you expect to happen now? Was there a buy in where you lost money or something? Shit happens and it just does not really seem like that big of a deal to make a whole thread about it.
Maeldun
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia169 Posts
December 01 2010 05:13 GMT
#6
Obviously Brandon was under a lot of stress trying to organise a 64 man tournament and stream it. I can empathise with his position, especially dealing with people who are trying to message him while streaming >< However this is no excuse to be a complete douche.
BobbyPG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States35 Posts
December 01 2010 05:13 GMT
#7
No doubt that LZ would bring in more viewers and activity to the stream, the tournament, and the tournament organizer, but doing this in order to get said activity is pretty bogus. I hope that he gives some sort of response, even if it what I said, the truth. Sorry to hear it, but like Chiss said, try to brush it off and do the best next time!
donut boi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 05:32:00
December 01 2010 05:14 GMT
#8
brandon is a slimey lil monkey aint he...damn you brandon!!!!! i play u think quick peeps so much on ladder its nUTs... btw wuts up w/ ur id on TL.. "tricksare4figs"... sounds uber gayzorz

edit: why the hell are you guys siding with brandon... clearly he's an asshole... if theres one thing ive noticed about posters on TL, is that once 1 person starts saying things like "no point in making a whole thread over this" EVERYONE else starts doing it too... its sickening rly... srsly if i was an attorney, id get hired by skullz and pwn brandons bitch ass in court

User has been warned for a history of poor posting
donut the bronut
MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
December 01 2010 05:16 GMT
#9
That's pretty rude. The guy should atleast make an apology. Yes, there is stress in running a tournament, but doesn't mean you can't have manners.

Sorry to hear about ur situation man.
BOOM!!! ~ Tasteless
Sanasante
Profile Joined March 2010
United States321 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 05:21:33
December 01 2010 05:21 GMT
#10
Since Round 64 was over and Round 32 started there is 0 excuse for him replacing you after the first round of the tournament. If everything in your post is true... then yeah... that's really messed up
It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
December 01 2010 05:21 GMT
#11
Thats really bad behaviour and really not good mannered. I hate people running away from their bad behaviour just ignoring everything and not be able to stand their man and treat other people with the respect they deserve. hopefully he will learn from that and will improve
NesTea <3
TricksAre4Figs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
December 01 2010 05:22 GMT
#12
On December 01 2010 14:13 BobbyPG wrote:
No doubt that LZ would bring in more viewers and activity to the stream, the tournament, and the tournament organizer, but doing this in order to get said activity is pretty bogus. I hope that he gives some sort of response, even if it what I said, the truth. Sorry to hear it, but like Chiss said, try to brush it off and do the best next time!


Well here's the thing, LZGaMer and I were both in the original roster which I linked to in the OP. Did he lose in round 1 and get a second chance? I don't know.
Liquid crystal display everyday.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 05:36:31
December 01 2010 05:24 GMT
#13
Yeah replacing players mid tournament is very unprofessional. I would like to hear a statement about this. If we don't hear some explanations I don't think it's right for this tournament to be featured on TL any longer.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 01 2010 05:28 GMT
#14
On December 01 2010 14:14 donut boi wrote:
brandon is a slimey lil monkey aint he...damn you brandon!!!!! i play u think quick peeps so much on ladder its nUTs... btw wuts up w/ ur id on TL.. "tricksare4figs"... sounds uber gayzorz

edit: why the hell are you guys siding with brandon... clearly he's an asshole... if theres one thing ive noticed about posters on TL, is that once 1 person starts saying things like "no point in making a whole thread over this" EVERYONE else starts doing it too... its sickening rly... srsly if i was an attorney, id get hired by skullz and pwn brandons bitch ass in court


What is this?

No one is siding with anyone. One guy has posted an unsubstantiated anecdote in a thread. For all we know this was a mere oversight by the tournament admin or maybe the whole story was made up. Or maybe Brandon is a total jerk who bumped a guy out of his tournament for no good reason Until we have heard the other side of the story or some proof is offered up it would be an ill step to condemn anyone to the depths of internet hell.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 01 2010 05:29 GMT
#15
that's really malicious. completely removing you from the tourney likely because you're not a big name, and then removing you from his friends list for... bothering him or something? there is no reasonable explanation for it. he owes you an apology, and that tournament needs better people running it.
Zerothegreat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 05:33:58
December 01 2010 05:32 GMT
#16
I don't think this is the type of thing the TL community should represent. It is never "ok" no matter the "circumstances" to make another person waste his/her time sitting online over a game that he will inevitably not get a fair chance to participate in. The thought of him misleading you into wasting more time is even more sickening. If I were the other players I would boycott the tournament.

Just my opinion though. Good luck in future tournaments and I hope we don't see any more like this.
Gecko
Profile Joined August 2010
United States519 Posts
December 01 2010 05:32 GMT
#17
It's not much of a tournament if the admins don't run it fairly . that sucks if you really got removed for no reason but i would not fret over it. if the tourney is rigged in such a way it might not of been worth investing more time into.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
December 01 2010 05:35 GMT
#18
Sounds to me like some "known" players decided they wanted to play midway through this tournament and some "exceptions" were made for them.

That being said, making those exceptions already puts this guys integrity in question, but being a total douchebag about it and making this poor guy waste half his day waiting to play some games takes the cake.
MrProphylactic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 06:04:03
December 01 2010 05:35 GMT
#19
On December 01 2010 14:24 Plexa wrote:
Yeah replacing players mid tournament is very unprofessional. I would like to here a statement about this.



Uh oh Plexa you used the wrong form of the word "here" . I think you meant the homonym form " hear " Also "mid tournament" needs a hyphen . What happened its only one sentence !!! . ( just joking .... I couldn't resist because you are admin


Yeah man that blows big-time . Completely unreasonable . If he was going to screw you over , he at least could have expedited the process .

"The Beauty of a move is not in its appearance, but the thought behind it" Nimzovitch
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
December 01 2010 05:36 GMT
#20
This is sad to hear about

I hope there was some sort of honest mistake somewhere.
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