• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:24
CET 03:24
KST 11:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1392 users

[M] (2) Phalanx

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 18 2010 08:28 GMT
#1
[image loading]
Phalanx

Images:
Overview: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Angled View: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Analyzer Images: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


Notes:
Part of my series of attempts to make non-square maps. Mains at 10 & 4. Easy Natural. Third close but blocked by rocks. Aesthetically, it doesn't have pretty trees. Comments, questions, suggestions, etc, appreciated.

My Map Thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
November 18 2010 10:05 GMT
#2
I love the way this looks in finished form! There's a lot of open space but it doesn't feel too big. The xel'naga caverns pattern works really well with the width and the interesting center.

Really like the grungy atmosphere.

Nice work!
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 11:58:39
November 18 2010 11:10 GMT
#3
Great map, like the easily accessible third, yet not too accessible (destructible rocks, back-door entrance). however why do mapmakers insist on creating this highway for drops surrounding the map? Afaik, this is something that started with blizzards sc2 maps and has caught on like McDonalds.

EDIT: I guess it was because you didn't want a square map?
BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 18 2010 20:10 GMT
#4
On November 18 2010 20:10 drlame wrote:
Great map, like the easily accessible third, yet not too accessible (destructible rocks, back-door entrance). however why do mapmakers insist on creating this highway for drops surrounding the map? Afaik, this is something that started with blizzards sc2 maps and has caught on like McDonalds.

EDIT: I guess it was because you didn't want a square map?

In order to make a map that doesn't have hard edges and corners that look unnatural, you have to round off the corners of your terrain. This creates space that flying units can use. This wasn't as big of a problem in BW because maps were limited and the borders were easy to see. With the SC2 editor, you can create ground that goes beyond the border and becomes unpathable/unbuildable but without a cliff or doodads, the player wouldn't know the border was there until they walked into it.

Speaking specifically about my map, the border is actually smaller than the image. Just beyond the cliff on the edge of the main behind the minerals is where the border is located. If I extended the cliff any further, you wouldn't be able to path onto it anyway. It's actually a lot easier to see if you look at the distance analyzer images. Look at how there is only one line of red between the green of the main and the black of the border.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
November 18 2010 21:16 GMT
#5
On November 19 2010 05:10 BoomStevo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 20:10 drlame wrote:
Great map, like the easily accessible third, yet not too accessible (destructible rocks, back-door entrance). however why do mapmakers insist on creating this highway for drops surrounding the map? Afaik, this is something that started with blizzards sc2 maps and has caught on like McDonalds.

EDIT: I guess it was because you didn't want a square map?

In order to make a map that doesn't have hard edges and corners that look unnatural, you have to round off the corners of your terrain. This creates space that flying units can use. This wasn't as big of a problem in BW because maps were limited and the borders were easy to see. With the SC2 editor, you can create ground that goes beyond the border and becomes unpathable/unbuildable but without a cliff or doodads, the player wouldn't know the border was there until they walked into it.

Speaking specifically about my map, the border is actually smaller than the image. Just beyond the cliff on the edge of the main behind the minerals is where the border is located. If I extended the cliff any further, you wouldn't be able to path onto it anyway. It's actually a lot easier to see if you look at the distance analyzer images. Look at how there is only one line of red between the green of the main and the black of the border.


Thanks for explaining, as you might have guessed I'm a noob when it comes to mapmaking. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, just curious.
BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 18 2010 23:55 GMT
#6
On November 19 2010 06:16 drlame wrote:
Thanks for explaining, as you might have guessed I'm a noob when it comes to mapmaking. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, just curious.

No problem. Thank you for the comments.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
yoplate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 19 2010 02:17 GMT
#7
Looks very good. For some reason it reminds me of Xel Naga Caverns (not a bad thing). I think this map looks pretty fun.
BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 19 2010 03:55 GMT
#8
On November 19 2010 11:17 yoplate wrote:
Looks very good. For some reason it reminds me of Xel Naga Caverns (not a bad thing). I think this map looks pretty fun.

Yeah, the expansion pattern is similar with the third and gold. Of course, Xel'Naga Caverns is one of the best maps in the ladder pool right now, so definitely not a bad thing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
November 25 2010 02:09 GMT
#9
--- Nuked ---
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
November 25 2010 02:32 GMT
#10
This actually makes me think of a 1v1 version of Tarsonis Assault.

I really like the result
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 25 2010 03:04 GMT
#11
Looks cool, but its pretty much identical to Xelnaga caverns in terms of natural, 3rd, gold tower set up.

Not that thats a bad thing.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
BoomStevo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
November 25 2010 08:06 GMT
#12
On November 25 2010 11:09 Barrin wrote:
I personally think this map would be a lot better if it was a few red squares thinner ---> <---

I like everything else about it though ^_^

Red squares?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158246 - My Maps
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
November 25 2010 10:13 GMT
#13
I think he means the map should be smaller and judging by the Analyzer pics you've yet again made a sweet but tall map. Would like to see a tiny one
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 187
ProTech135
Nathanias 69
CosmosSc2 64
RuFF_SC2 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 782
Shuttle 108
NaDa 25
Hm[arnc] 14
Noble 9
scan(afreeca) 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever303
NeuroSwarm85
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
summit1g10800
minikerr23
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor187
Other Games
JimRising 418
Maynarde189
XaKoH 162
ViBE42
Guitarcheese15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1075
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 103
• Mapu11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22627
League of Legends
• Doublelift5882
Other Games
• Scarra1796
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 36m
Wardi Open
9h 36m
Monday Night Weeklies
14h 36m
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.