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Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
November 17 2010 23:59 GMT
#1
First of all, I hope I am posting in the right section, if not I hope the mods will be so nice to move it to the proper board without sending me 200 supplies of speedlings to punish my error.

I watch every dayly from day9 and sometimes I watch some cast from HD and Husky (not to speak about tastosis @ gsl or co-casters of day9 during MLGs and such). It seems everyone is unsure about to pronounce "Colossi".

First of all, it seems that most of the casters use the term "Colossi" when they are talking about more than one Colossus. Now, that's exactly how ancient latin works: 1 Colossus, 2 or more Colossi.

So, since it seems we are talking "latin", the exact pronounciation of Colossi is not Coloss-"i", but Coloss-"e". Where by "e" and "i" I meant the way you pronounce those vowels when you list the alphabet.
Also, the "e" is short, not long. So the sound is like the sound of the "i" in fish, and not like the "ee" in tree.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 18 2010 00:01 GMT
#2
This is not wrong..

.. but it's also not right.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:02:42
November 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#3
You are right. However, because most of the caster are NA / native english, I feel that this habit may stay forever
o choro é livre
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:02:51
November 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#4
Nobody cares about unit name pronunciation.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:03:26
November 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#5
On November 18 2010 08:59 Dirich wrote:
First of all, I hope I am posting in the right section, if not I hope the mods will be so nice to move it to the proper board without sending me 200 supplies of speedlings to punish my error.

I watch every dayly from day9 and sometimes I watch some cast from HD and Husky (not to speak about tastosis @ gsl or co-casters of day9 during MLGs and such). It seems everyone is unsure about to pronounce "Colossi".

First of all, it seems that most of the casters use the term "Colossi" when they are talking about more than one Colossus. Now, that's exactly how ancient latin works: 1 Colossus, 2 or more Colossi.

So, since it seems we are talking "latin", the exact pronounciation of Colossi is not Coloss-"i", but Coloss-"e". Where by "e" and "i" I meant the way you pronounce those vowels when you list the alphabet.
Also, the "e" is short, not long. So the sound is like the sound of the "i" in fish, and not like the "ee" in tree.


So like Colossih?
Don't tell me the koreans will be correct with the like
AAAAH COLOSSIH COLOSSIH COLOSSIH COLOSSU YAAA KAWASAMIDA
aka Teutonica
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:04:47
November 18 2010 00:03 GMT
#6
Nobody knows how to pronounce Latin 'correctly': it's a dead language. CollosAI is as good as collosIH.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
November 18 2010 00:05 GMT
#7
I was taught classical latin (just look at my username), and I learned the nominitave plural as pronounced as -eye, making it pronounced phonetically as col-OSS-eye.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:06:56
November 18 2010 00:05 GMT
#8
It's not Latin, it's English. Just because English takes roots from Latin doesn't meant he pronunciation goes unchanged.

Radii, alumni, prospecti, foci are all pronounced with a long i in (American) English.

"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
archon256
Profile Joined August 2010
United States363 Posts
November 18 2010 00:05 GMT
#9
Those damn Colloxen!
"The troupe is ready, the stage is set. I come to dance, the dance of death"
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
November 18 2010 00:05 GMT
#10
On November 18 2010 09:02 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 08:59 Dirich wrote:
First of all, I hope I am posting in the right section, if not I hope the mods will be so nice to move it to the proper board without sending me 200 supplies of speedlings to punish my error.

I watch every dayly from day9 and sometimes I watch some cast from HD and Husky (not to speak about tastosis @ gsl or co-casters of day9 during MLGs and such). It seems everyone is unsure about to pronounce "Colossi".

First of all, it seems that most of the casters use the term "Colossi" when they are talking about more than one Colossus. Now, that's exactly how ancient latin works: 1 Colossus, 2 or more Colossi.

So, since it seems we are talking "latin", the exact pronounciation of Colossi is not Coloss-"i", but Coloss-"e". Where by "e" and "i" I meant the way you pronounce those vowels when you list the alphabet.
Also, the "e" is short, not long. So the sound is like the sound of the "i" in fish, and not like the "ee" in tree.


So like Colossih?
Don't tell me the koreans will be correct with the like
AAAAH COLOSSIH COLOSSIH COLOSSIH COLOSSU YAAA KAWASAMIDA


HAHAHAHAHAHA I Lol'd "KAWASAMIDA"

OnT: Ty for the information :D
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:08:58
November 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#11
I personally have always preferred "Collosuses".

Definitely thread worthy. It should be brought to their attention at once!
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
November 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#12
On November 18 2010 09:02 AlBundy wrote:
You are right. However, because most of the caster are NA / native english, I feel that this habit may stay forever


Actually, it is way cooler to me the way they pronounce it.
But since I've listened more than once every caster I named asking themselves out loud what is the correct pronountiation (aka someone DO care...), I felt like I could do something good by writing this info.
It's not like they gotta change the way they say it, but at least now they can stop wondering about it! :D
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#13
If we go down this road, shouldn't it technically also be "Colossii" when referring to a defined amount? In effect: "These coloss-ee-eye" / "He is producing coloss-ee" ..
funcmode
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia720 Posts
November 18 2010 00:06 GMT
#14
The plural of cactus is cacti, and everyone says it as cactAI, not cactih. Same with hippopotami, nuclei, etc.
@funcmode - TPW Mapmaking Team - theplanetaryworkshop.com
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 18 2010 00:07 GMT
#15
Collosusees, one better, Nukedufirst.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
November 18 2010 00:08 GMT
#16
Good analysis, but consinder artosis for a minute. I'm sure he's been repeatidly corrected about how to pronouce ih-dra, and he still says eye-dra. Most casters just have a personal flare they wont give up and the masses listening pick up what casters say. Artosis is definitly the most notorious for doing stuff like this lol.

But just for you, i'll honor your works by calling Coloss-ee as Coloss-ih.
Obitus.243
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:12:37
November 18 2010 00:10 GMT
#17
On November 18 2010 09:03 aidnai wrote:
Nobody knows how to pronounce Latin 'correctly': it's a dead language. CollosAI is as good as collosIH.

Latin being a dead language in no way means that nobody knows how to pronounce Latin correctly.

@OP: "Colossi" in classical Latin would be pronounced "kole-awh-ssee." There is no emphasis on the last syllable, but it is most definitely a long "e" vowel sound. Also, English speakers saying "kawl-aws-sigh" is correct, as words such as "octopi" are English terms derived from Latin, not Latin words themselves.
:)
Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:13:24
November 18 2010 00:10 GMT
#18
On November 18 2010 09:03 aidnai wrote:
Nobody knows how to pronounce Latin 'correctly': it's a dead language. CollosAI is as good as collosIH.


Allow me to disagree. Actually, allow those that wrote the books on which I studied to disagree

Both ancient greek and latin are "dead", but it is well known how to correctly read them. Actually, we even know the differences in pronountiation between different ages.
Latin is still spoken by the christian church, altough in an evoluted form, and it was the language used by man of science up untill the beginning of the 20th century, so it was not exactly "dead".
Just two examples.

Even if you want to consider it dead, it really died not many years ago.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 18 2010 00:12 GMT
#19
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:13:32
November 18 2010 00:13 GMT
#20
On November 18 2010 09:12 Fa1nT wrote:
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I thought that "Nobody cares about unit name pronunciation." ??

You got to get you shit straight, man.
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