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azhang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States178 Posts
November 18 2010 00:13 GMT
#21
On November 18 2010 09:02 Fa1nT wrote:
Nobody cares about unit name pronunciation.


Haterz gonna hate
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 18 2010 00:14 GMT
#22
On November 18 2010 09:13 AlBundy wrote:
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On November 18 2010 09:12 Fa1nT wrote:
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I thought that "Nobody cares about unit name pronunciation." ??

You got to get you shit straight, man.


I assumed a mod would close it =((
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 18 2010 00:14 GMT
#23
On November 18 2010 09:14 Fa1nT wrote:
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On November 18 2010 09:13 AlBundy wrote:
On November 18 2010 09:12 Fa1nT wrote:
[image loading]



I thought that "Nobody cares about unit name pronunciation." ??

You got to get you shit straight, man.


I assumed a mod would close it =((


Lol fair enough
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 18 2010 00:17 GMT
#24
I don't care too much about the pronounciation, more about the fact that many many casters mess up singular and plural with Colossus/i. Even some very good casters. The singular is Colossus. The plural is Colossi, or Colossuses. I cringe whenever I hear it wrong, like "The Protoss has five Colossus, but the Terran has lots of Vikings. One Colossi goes down, second Colossi goes down!"
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
November 18 2010 00:18 GMT
#25
Lets call them what people proposed in the awful SC2 B.net forums during beta...

...Giraffes.
This is the only thing that I'll ever take away from those forums that is useful...

as for "i" sound vs. "e" sound...I personally like the "i" sound better because it sounds "cooler", but when you brought it up, it seems that the "e" sound sounds "correct"
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 18 2010 00:22 GMT
#26
On November 18 2010 09:12 Fa1nT wrote:
[image loading]


Yep. In English, the word ends in a long "I" sound.
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Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
November 18 2010 00:23 GMT
#27
On November 18 2010 09:18 EliteAzn wrote:
Lets call them what people proposed in the awful SC2 B.net forums during beta...

...Giraffes.
This is the only thing that I'll ever take away from those forums that is useful...


Now that you talk about giraffes, I must say that I found an even better image for the Colossi, the one on the right of the Giraffe in this picture:

Picture's url hided because the name would spoiler the fun part
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
November 18 2010 00:24 GMT
#28
On November 18 2010 09:05 archon256 wrote:
Those damn Colloxen!

I believe this is the correct form.
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SonicBoom
Profile Joined September 2010
United States20 Posts
November 18 2010 00:25 GMT
#29
If you speak Latin, you say Colossee, if you speak English you say Colosseye or Colossuses. If you speak Italian you might say the Latin pronunciation since the two languages are similar. If you are intelligent you spell it with one "l", never two.
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 18 2010 00:26 GMT
#30
On November 18 2010 09:05 archon256 wrote:
Those damn Colloxen!


Always get roflstomped by dem darn Collouson >.<
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CactusApple
Profile Joined September 2010
22 Posts
November 18 2010 00:27 GMT
#31
It is never wrong to pronounce Latin words the way you would read them in the language you are currently speaking. This means that it is perfectly correct to pronounce the "i" in Colossi as "ai". The other correct pronunciation would be the Roman way, as you suggested.

BY THE WAY: When a word is used in the English language it gets assimilated, which means that it adheres to English grammar. This means that it is also correct to say Colossuses. It is a safety net so to speak.
Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
November 18 2010 00:31 GMT
#32
Why don't you just look it up instead of making a useless thread -
co·los·sus
[kuh-los-uhs]
–noun, plural -los·si
fauxreal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
November 18 2010 00:31 GMT
#33
Agreed with those, we're using the english pronunciation. Much like the word, radii.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
November 18 2010 00:36 GMT
#34
Octopus.

(all of these are acceptable plurals according to the people who write miriam webster)

Octopuses

Octopi

octopods

Octopodes
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 18 2010 00:36 GMT
#35
I don't think that the Latin pronunciation holds here. Colossus in this case is using the English derivative, for which the plural is pronounced with an eye sound.

I see what you're trying to do, but I don't think we can just apply Latin grammar and pronunciation rules to certain words just because they are spelled the same in English as Latin haha, or else we'd end up with:

He's using his vikings to target fire colossōs!!!

The lasers colossōrum are really tearing through those Hydra's!!!!

etc. :p
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Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:41:59
November 18 2010 00:37 GMT
#36
On November 18 2010 09:27 SC2Chobo wrote:
It is never wrong to pronounce Latin words the way you would read them in the language you are currently speaking. This means that it is perfectly correct to pronounce the "i" in Colossi as "ai".


I had the feeling that this (as also other suggested) was what was going on.
Altough if I can recognize a word not for a "native word" but for an "assimilated one", my brain can't ignore the idea that any pronountiation different from the one used in the native language of that word is wrong.
Nevetheless, I understand that it is totally normal to use our own language pronountiation since usually those knowing the "correct" pronountiation are only a small percentage (unless the the word is being assimlated from english), which means that the "wrong" pronountiation will be forced to be right by "popular decision", since it's not some linguistic professor that decide how a language evolve, but the population itself.

EDIT: and when I say "linguistic professor" I am not speaking about myself I actually just had the misfortune to study ancient greek and latin during high school, I am happy to inform you I luckyly switched to engineering for my master degree. :D
PointyBagels
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
November 18 2010 00:45 GMT
#37
Colossi would be pronounced the same way as cacti, or any other similar word.

Though apparently Colossuses is also correct according to some, though I am not sure.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
November 18 2010 00:45 GMT
#38
On November 18 2010 09:05 Bear4188 wrote:
It's not Latin, it's English. Just because English takes roots from Latin doesn't meant he pronunciation goes unchanged.

Radii, alumni, prospecti, foci are all pronounced with a long i in (American) English.



Actually English roots from proto-germanic. There are latin influences for various historical reasons but it is not a latin language.
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Galaxy77
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hong Kong256 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 00:48:01
November 18 2010 00:46 GMT
#39
Searched it on google:

Definition of colossus (noun)
forms: colossi, colossuses
any strikingly great person or object

http://www.english-test.net/sat/vocabulary/words/358/sat-definitions.php#colossus

And you are correct, the "i" on the end of colossi is pronounced as the letter name 'e'
Dirich
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy101 Posts
November 18 2010 00:53 GMT
#40
On November 18 2010 09:45 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 09:05 Bear4188 wrote:
It's not Latin, it's English. Just because English takes roots from Latin doesn't meant he pronunciation goes unchanged.

Radii, alumni, prospecti, foci are all pronounced with a long i in (American) English.



Actually English roots from proto-germanic. There are latin influences for various historical reasons but it is not a latin language.


The way we learned it, english has roots in proto-germanic and latin (because of the roman domination over the southern part of the island).
Altough here in Italy we may be probably not the best suited for an impartial judgment, I am surely suited to judge the fact that half the words in english have latin roots. Infact a common "joke" here in Italy is that if you wanna speak english you just add an "s" at the end of any italian word you pronounce.
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