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[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 31 2010 17:45 GMT
#1
Shim Hyun, a Fomos reporter, has tweeted the following.

"취재 차 그래텍에 왔는데 MBC게임과의 협상은 결국 결렬될 가능성이 높은 것 같습니다. 오늘밤에 기사를 작성할 예정입니다만, 협회와의 협상도 그렇게 희망적인 것 같지는 않네요. 안타깝습니다."

The gist of it is that, he got in touch with Gretech and apparently the possibilities are "high" that the negotiations between them and MBC Game are breaking down. Furthermore, he adds that "it's not very hopeful" that negotiations between KeSPA and Gretech will be going anywhere.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110284&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

The gist of the issue seems to be that Gretech isn't very happy that MBC Game ended the MSL and STX Cup without negotiating, although Gretech "made it clear" that a contract will be needed. They're taking the fact that MBC Game finished both leagues without a contract as a sign that MBC Game isn't willing to negotiate, and that, they'll decide on a response based on an internal meeting they'll be having soon.

Also, apparently Gretech offered the same conditions for both OGN and MBC.

"Uh oh"

More Details on KeSPA - Gretech negotiations
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 10:53:53
August 31 2010 10:53 GMT
#2
pretty much summed it up .. cheesy blizzard ..

BW will be gone after OSL is over ..

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lets just hope OSL season 3 will still be there though :D
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
August 31 2010 10:54 GMT
#3
so that means? sry my english is bad ;D
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 31 2010 10:57 GMT
#4
On August 31 2010 19:54 AssiRoyal wrote:
so that means? sry my english is bad ;D


no negotiations = no msl/proleague
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
August 31 2010 11:01 GMT
#5
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 31 2010 11:01 GMT
#6
wtf is this bullshit? gretech/blizzard coming in from nowhere to try to steal money by forcing contracts.
Brood War loyalist
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 31 2010 11:03 GMT
#7
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?


technically no .. they[blizzard] can still deny them because blizzard has already a company[gretech] that can do its "dirty work" in korea. they can go to court if MBC will still broadcast BW
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:11:30
August 31 2010 11:04 GMT
#8
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?

No I think they have the rights to SCBW as well which is why OGN negotiated in the first place (they didn't negotiate for SC2 games, they need it for the OSL).

Omg...I don't know what to say this is bad news indeed.

This is really silly, they're angry because they haven't negotiated a contract with MBC and that the leagues have finished. What was MBC suppose to do? Stop everything until negotiations were over?
Wasn't the point of the grace period so that they could finish the leagues?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 31 2010 11:05 GMT
#9
maybe the blizz' intention is to turn the whole proscene to play SC2?

I will miss BW SLs because it's simply more exciting to watch than SC2. On the other hand, if it's the end, I think it's safe to assume the OSL finals will be the biggest thing in BW ever.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
August 31 2010 11:06 GMT
#10
sc1 makes blizzard almost no money at this point. The only thing blizzard needed sc1 for was to get a league underway in korea, and that is called gsl. Now that gsl is up and running (and very popular to say the least) blizzard has 0 incentive to keep sc1 going unless they do some crazy sc2 promotion. Plus blizzard wants pros to transfer to sc2 to get the scene really going. I think blizzard negoatiates for a single tournament like osl, but requires that sc2 be advertised during the broadcast. the meeting will go something like this "is it worth it to continue to promote sc1? if so what are the projected advertising revenue from it? What could we gain if msl and osl just stopped? They will make a comparison and decide in a business like fashion.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:08:23
August 31 2010 11:07 GMT
#11
On August 31 2010 20:05 ondik wrote:
maybe the blizz' intention is to turn the whole proscene to play SC2?


maybe .. but there is a strong indication that they dont really care about it [e-sport in korea] ..
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
August 31 2010 11:07 GMT
#12
On August 31 2010 20:03 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?


technically no .. they[blizzard] can still deny them because blizzard has already a company[gretech] that can do its "dirty work" in korea. they can go to court if MBC will still broadcast BW



hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 31 2010 11:09 GMT
#13
On August 31 2010 20:07 Nesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 20:03 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?


technically no .. they[blizzard] can still deny them because blizzard has already a company[gretech] that can do its "dirty work" in korea. they can go to court if MBC will still broadcast BW



hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?


they gave a fuck about the korean e-sport when 2007 came .. the same time blizz/activision merged
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
August 31 2010 11:11 GMT
#14
Fuck ... this is not good, although OSL is the better league of the two I still wish they'd figure something out so we can have both OSL and MSL. The worst would be not having PL ...
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 31 2010 11:12 GMT
#15
....

fuck off Activision Blizzard
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
August 31 2010 11:14 GMT
#16
On August 31 2010 20:07 Nesto wrote:
hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?


Blizzard suddenly decided they needed a contract and started negotiating with kespa but it wasnt successful and the negotiations ended without any results.
Now they have a contract with gretech (Gom) and told MBC and OGN to negociate with gretech if they wanted to keep broadcasting SCBW. They could broadcast it until the end of august without any contract. Now they need one or blizzard will sue them or something.
OGN has a contract I believe but obviously MBC doesnt.

Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 31 2010 11:16 GMT
#17
Goddamnit Blizzard, I'm gonna boycott your stuff from now on. >:[
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 31 2010 11:16 GMT
#18
On August 31 2010 20:14 tyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 20:07 Nesto wrote:
hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?


Blizzard suddenly decided they needed a contract and started negotiating with kespa but it wasnt successful and the negotiations ended without any results.
Now they have a contract with gretech (Gom) and told MBC and OGN to negociate with gretech if they wanted to keep broadcasting SCBW. They could broadcast it until the end of august without any contract. Now they need one or blizzard will sue them or something.
OGN has a contract I believe but obviously MBC doesnt.

Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.


maybe .. but the season will take too long because only 1 set per day?? idk

imagine MBC hero vs WeMade .. TvTs! sooo long
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
August 31 2010 11:18 GMT
#19
pro teams dont care for sc2, so blizzard, a money whore, is trying to make more money like this ( or switch to sc 2 )
One ring, to rule them all!
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 31 2010 11:20 GMT
#20
On August 31 2010 20:16 Holgerius wrote:
Goddamnit Blizzard, I'm gonna boycott your stuff from now on. >:[

This.
And I won't log into SC2 ever again if things stay that way (I played with some friends cause they did not wan't to play broodwar... I'm sad.).
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