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[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 31 2010 11:20 GMT
#21
Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.


No. OGN has to get a new contract for every OSL.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 31 2010 11:22 GMT
#22
On August 31 2010 20:20 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.


No. OGN has to get a new contract for every OSL.


WTF
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
August 31 2010 11:22 GMT
#23
On August 31 2010 20:09 aimaimaim wrote:
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On August 31 2010 20:07 Nesto wrote:
On August 31 2010 20:03 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?


technically no .. they[blizzard] can still deny them because blizzard has already a company[gretech] that can do its "dirty work" in korea. they can go to court if MBC will still broadcast BW



hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?


they gave a fuck about the korean e-sport when 2007 came .. the same time blizz/activision merged


Blizzard simply understands how important the korean scene is to the popularity of their game and as long as it was just free marketing for BW everyone was happy.

Then once they started developing SC2 they most likely realized the dangers of a split community between BW and SC2 so decided that if BW is gonna continue running we might aswell get a buck or two for it (technically they could demand 10x the prize for BW rights just as a way to steer broadcasters to SC2 to generate more publicity but I'm not sure if they're really that evil).

Still I don't particulary like the fact that law enables developers to have this kind of control over their own games cause in the end Blizzard cares about sales while a broadcasting company like MBC care about providing as good e-sports coverage as possible.

And that is not because Blizzard is evil and MBC loves fans just they make money from different things and as a fan you want the people making money from providing you as good quality e-sports as possible to be the one in charge.
no
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:23 GMT
#24
Well, a big fuck off to Activision Blizzard I guess.

All they can do is ruin everything.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
August 31 2010 11:25 GMT
#25
Activisionblizzard can take their SC2 and shove it up their own asses. My ass doesn't even take crap like SC2.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 31 2010 11:27 GMT
#26
Textbook definition of "bullshit" imo.
ggaemo fan
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:29:26
August 31 2010 11:28 GMT
#27
What are the chances of OGN/MBC winning if this goes to court?
I mean the fact that they were allowed to run the leagues for almost 7 years without as much as a peep should count for something right?

Also people wonder why I didnt buy star2 =p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 31 2010 11:28 GMT
#28
Yay Blizzard fucking everything up -_-

Maybe KeSPA will go to court over the matter and keep going w/ BW meanwhile. Hopefully they also win in the end.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
August 31 2010 11:30 GMT
#29
From a profit perspective, this makes total sense. Blizzard absolutely wants to get Korea to give up on BW now that SC2 is out, and from their perspective, they don't make any money if Flash or Jaedong keep on playing BW. They have MUCH to gain if these kinds of S-class players switch to SC2, if only out of necessity.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:32 GMT
#30
Blizzard didn't fucking care about property rights for more than 7 years, they should have no right whatsoever to claim them now just because there's more money to make now.

I hope the korean court totally fucks those bastards over.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Oozo
Profile Joined December 2009
Finland432 Posts
August 31 2010 11:35 GMT
#31
No more Activisionblizcrap company games for me, boycot is immediate. Thanks blizzard for ruining best e-sport scene in the world for hopes that you're pitiful game would take over.
SKT for OSL!
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
August 31 2010 11:43 GMT
#32
This is bad news, I'm sad.

I don't understand why is this happening now.
Elena[PaiN]
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
August 31 2010 11:47 GMT
#33
regretech
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:48 GMT
#34
In the spotlight??
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 12:31:51
August 31 2010 11:49 GMT
#35
On August 31 2010 20:30 Funnytoss wrote:
From a profit perspective, this makes total sense. Blizzard absolutely wants to get Korea to give up on BW now that SC2 is out, and from their perspective, they don't make any money if Flash or Jaedong keep on playing BW. They have MUCH to gain if these kinds of S-class players switch to SC2, if only out of necessity.

This isn't about Flash or any players. This is just that from a pure fiscal perspective, Blizzard has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Threaten to kill off BW if your demands aren't met (more or less).

A) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame cave and pay up == $$$ + the korean esports scene in your pocket.
B) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame refuse to pay, BW dies == more room (and less competition) for a SC2 esport scene in Korea (though with a very bad taste left in the mouths of ex-BW fans).

Essentially, even if it didn't help SC2 at all, it still doesn't cost Blizz anything atm if the BW scene dies now since they have nothing at stake and don't give 2 shits about the remaining BW fans. From what it seemed (at least according to the public statements made from both sides), it wasn't even really the financial requirements that were the main problem (though MBC did say they were 'higher than expected' and unreasonable, but KeSPA and OGN didn't have an issue). It was about Blizzard wanting a lot of power over KeSPA.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:50:41
August 31 2010 11:49 GMT
#36
Fuck you Blizzard. Sincerely.

Oh and please don't tell me it is Kespa's fault or whatsoever when it is clearly obvious that Blizzard just want to kill bw to get more broadcating time for Sc2.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 31 2010 11:51 GMT
#37
Hope MBC continues to run leagues without giving a rats ass about blizzard. Maybe CJ can pull some strings and get Gretech to STFU.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 31 2010 11:56 GMT
#38
...
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2602 Posts
August 31 2010 12:10 GMT
#39
its Win-Win for Blizzard.... semi-win-lose for BW
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 31 2010 12:20 GMT
#40
Man I've been wondering how this was coming along since the last update. I was really hoping that no news was good news, but apparently not.

As others have pointed out, Blizzard hold all the Aces in this situation. If MBC don't want to play the game then things look very bleak.

I'm not religious but maybe it's time to convert!!
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