• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:36
CET 03:36
KST 11:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0218LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)22Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker10PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)13
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Revival: Season 4 Korea Qualifier (Feb 14) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which units you wish saw more use in the game? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1817 users

[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…

Forum Index > Closed
681 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 33 34 35 Next All
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 31 2010 11:20 GMT
#21
Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.


No. OGN has to get a new contract for every OSL.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 31 2010 11:22 GMT
#22
On August 31 2010 20:20 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
Which leads me to this question : OGN can keep broadcasting OSL, right ? And even PL if there is one.


No. OGN has to get a new contract for every OSL.


WTF
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
August 31 2010 11:22 GMT
#23
On August 31 2010 20:09 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 20:07 Nesto wrote:
On August 31 2010 20:03 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 31 2010 20:01 Nesto wrote:
I seem to miss the big problem there.

OGN has a contract right? so there will be another OSL.

MBC can still start a new MSL / Pro-league, without contract as always.
The only thing MBC won't be able to do is showing SC2 games, since that's the only thing, which Blizzard/Gretech can deny them, or am I wrong here?


technically no .. they[blizzard] can still deny them because blizzard has already a company[gretech] that can do its "dirty work" in korea. they can go to court if MBC will still broadcast BW



hmm, but they broadcasted without contract for almost 10 years, why is that suddenly a problem?


they gave a fuck about the korean e-sport when 2007 came .. the same time blizz/activision merged


Blizzard simply understands how important the korean scene is to the popularity of their game and as long as it was just free marketing for BW everyone was happy.

Then once they started developing SC2 they most likely realized the dangers of a split community between BW and SC2 so decided that if BW is gonna continue running we might aswell get a buck or two for it (technically they could demand 10x the prize for BW rights just as a way to steer broadcasters to SC2 to generate more publicity but I'm not sure if they're really that evil).

Still I don't particulary like the fact that law enables developers to have this kind of control over their own games cause in the end Blizzard cares about sales while a broadcasting company like MBC care about providing as good e-sports coverage as possible.

And that is not because Blizzard is evil and MBC loves fans just they make money from different things and as a fan you want the people making money from providing you as good quality e-sports as possible to be the one in charge.
no
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:23 GMT
#24
Well, a big fuck off to Activision Blizzard I guess.

All they can do is ruin everything.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
August 31 2010 11:25 GMT
#25
Activisionblizzard can take their SC2 and shove it up their own asses. My ass doesn't even take crap like SC2.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 31 2010 11:27 GMT
#26
Textbook definition of "bullshit" imo.
ggaemo fan
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:29:26
August 31 2010 11:28 GMT
#27
What are the chances of OGN/MBC winning if this goes to court?
I mean the fact that they were allowed to run the leagues for almost 7 years without as much as a peep should count for something right?

Also people wonder why I didnt buy star2 =p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 31 2010 11:28 GMT
#28
Yay Blizzard fucking everything up -_-

Maybe KeSPA will go to court over the matter and keep going w/ BW meanwhile. Hopefully they also win in the end.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
August 31 2010 11:30 GMT
#29
From a profit perspective, this makes total sense. Blizzard absolutely wants to get Korea to give up on BW now that SC2 is out, and from their perspective, they don't make any money if Flash or Jaedong keep on playing BW. They have MUCH to gain if these kinds of S-class players switch to SC2, if only out of necessity.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:32 GMT
#30
Blizzard didn't fucking care about property rights for more than 7 years, they should have no right whatsoever to claim them now just because there's more money to make now.

I hope the korean court totally fucks those bastards over.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Oozo
Profile Joined December 2009
Finland432 Posts
August 31 2010 11:35 GMT
#31
No more Activisionblizcrap company games for me, boycot is immediate. Thanks blizzard for ruining best e-sport scene in the world for hopes that you're pitiful game would take over.
SKT for OSL!
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
August 31 2010 11:43 GMT
#32
This is bad news, I'm sad.

I don't understand why is this happening now.
Elena[PaiN]
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 31 2010 11:47 GMT
#33
regretech
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 11:48 GMT
#34
In the spotlight??
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 12:31:51
August 31 2010 11:49 GMT
#35
On August 31 2010 20:30 Funnytoss wrote:
From a profit perspective, this makes total sense. Blizzard absolutely wants to get Korea to give up on BW now that SC2 is out, and from their perspective, they don't make any money if Flash or Jaedong keep on playing BW. They have MUCH to gain if these kinds of S-class players switch to SC2, if only out of necessity.

This isn't about Flash or any players. This is just that from a pure fiscal perspective, Blizzard has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Threaten to kill off BW if your demands aren't met (more or less).

A) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame cave and pay up == $$$ + the korean esports scene in your pocket.
B) KeSPA/OGN/MBCGame refuse to pay, BW dies == more room (and less competition) for a SC2 esport scene in Korea (though with a very bad taste left in the mouths of ex-BW fans).

Essentially, even if it didn't help SC2 at all, it still doesn't cost Blizz anything atm if the BW scene dies now since they have nothing at stake and don't give 2 shits about the remaining BW fans. From what it seemed (at least according to the public statements made from both sides), it wasn't even really the financial requirements that were the main problem (though MBC did say they were 'higher than expected' and unreasonable, but KeSPA and OGN didn't have an issue). It was about Blizzard wanting a lot of power over KeSPA.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 11:50:41
August 31 2010 11:49 GMT
#36
Fuck you Blizzard. Sincerely.

Oh and please don't tell me it is Kespa's fault or whatsoever when it is clearly obvious that Blizzard just want to kill bw to get more broadcating time for Sc2.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 31 2010 11:51 GMT
#37
Hope MBC continues to run leagues without giving a rats ass about blizzard. Maybe CJ can pull some strings and get Gretech to STFU.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 31 2010 11:56 GMT
#38
...
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
August 31 2010 12:10 GMT
#39
its Win-Win for Blizzard.... semi-win-lose for BW
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 31 2010 12:20 GMT
#40
Man I've been wondering how this was coming along since the last update. I was really hoping that no news was good news, but apparently not.

As others have pointed out, Blizzard hold all the Aces in this situation. If MBC don't want to play the game then things look very bleak.

I'm not religious but maybe it's time to convert!!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 33 34 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
00:40
Final Tiebreaker Qualifier
Creator vs Nicoract
TBD vs YoungYakov
PiGStarcraft495
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft495
SteadfastSC 115
RuFF_SC2 87
PiLiPiLi 19
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 64
Noble 37
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
taco 465
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0499
Mew2King177
Other Games
tarik_tv20856
summit1g9531
JimRising 442
ToD176
ViBE64
ZombieGrub17
JuggernautJason12
minikerr9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick805
BasetradeTV81
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• sM.Zik 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21071
League of Legends
• Scarra1772
• Stunt263
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
24m
RSL Revival
5h 24m
LiuLi Cup
8h 24m
Cure vs Reynor
Clem vs Maru
Rogue vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Serral
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
9h 24m
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
14h 19m
RSL Revival
15h 24m
AI Arena Tournament
17h 24m
Replay Cast
21h 24m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
LiuLi Cup
1d 8h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 15h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.