EPTApparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV.
According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms.
[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…
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regerstreen
Canada57 Posts
Apparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV. According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:06 regerstreen wrote: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=32313 Apparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV. According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms. wow what happens if Blizzard loses broadcasting stations? | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:17 EleanorRIgby wrote: blizzard is gonna bring down the hammer soon korean netizens gonna bring down the hammer soon imo  this is all REALLY disappointing. especially because at first Gretech appeared to be the good guys saying that they wanted to negotiate with the OGN/MBC/KeSPA. Gretech willing to kill off the SPL just for GSL. Sad. | ||
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_awake_
196 Posts
On September 07 2010 07:34 Klive5ive wrote: No, they don't want to kill PL they want the schedule changed. That is VERY different. And how do you know the GomTV tournaments were bad from a Korean standpoint? They had some fantastic finals. who are you kidding? gom wants bw dead to give GSL a chance. how desperate are they? don't they believe that the quality of their game will lead to their success? all this shows is that they don't believe their game will fare well in the korean market and are using all their power and dirty tactics to try to destroy their competition. who knows what other terms gretech *cough* blizzard korea *cough* proposed? convert proleague fully to SC2 in 1 years time? | ||
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Philar
Hong Kong125 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:18 bokchoi wrote: korean netizens gonna bring down the hammer soon imo yes if we have learned anything from the kpop thread, korean fangirls are not to be trifled with | ||
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:06 regerstreen wrote: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=32313 Apparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV. According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms. Things are finally looking up for the brood war. :D Just need the government to side with KESPA and maybe we can get back on track. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:06 regerstreen wrote: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=32313 Apparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV. According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms. I don't know if I feel good that OGN left, or bad that BW and SC2 still can't cooperate, but for now, if it means higher chance of more BW, then WOOT, OGN! | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
So by your logic of trusting Blizzard with e-sports, anything involving SC2 would be shut down instantly as soon as they come out with SC3 10 years down the road, then they will switch to their new milk machine that is SC3. If blizzard gets its wish and is able to kill off BW, then one important lesson they'll have taught everyone is that you shouldn't try to build an esport on their products. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
Blizzard: Blizzard owns starcraft IP. They alone are allowed to sell contracts to transmit broadcasts of what they own, just like the NFL owns the right to broadcast all NFL games. Blizzard wants GSL to succeed, but they know they need south korean BW fans to join over. SK proleagues: They have been building up the fanbase for scbw for a long long time and they alone are responsible for making korea into the esports haven that it is. They have been broadcasting with permission for a long time, but are now threatened because of blizzard finally starting to care about esports. From their perspective they want scbw to last another 7 years because it has been popular for them and they are in their prime with osl, msl, etc... sc fans in korea: They love scbw and they love watching the pros duke it out, sc2 is a neat game, but it isn't polished and doesn't have big names like scbw does. They would watch some sc2, but prefer scbw most likely. sc fans not in korea: These fans tend to be all over the place. Some preferring scbw only, while others are sc2 only. However, with the success already of sc2 internationally, most fans will be watching sc2 and love sc2. Like me they will watch a few scbw games just to watch how awesome players like flash, jaedong, bisu and effort are, but 90% of the time we will watch and play sc1. Possible Negotiations and pros cons. 1. PL continues on with permission from blizzard. 2. PL continues in spite of blizzard, battle goes to court. 3. PL discontinued. 4. Something in between. 5. something crazy (see below) 1 likely won't happen since it will not benefit gomtv/blizzard in any way. Both companies only care about 1 thing which is profit, and blizzard gets no profit in this situation. 2. Not likely to happen as this will completely ruin PL and players would probably quit and networks probably don't want to go to court. 3. Might happen if negotations don't work, however this will anger a lot of korean scbw fans and players. Might result in a bigger audience for GSL, but will push away a lot of potential players and fans. 4. Most likely something in between. I think blizzards conditions are. 1. GSL comes first 2. Blizzard gets a share 3. No more contracts with teams, players or networks (meaning players and TV networks can switch to sc2). Without 1, gsl won't grow fast, without 2, it's not worth it, without 3 blizzard will have a hard time getting the pro-scene to improve and a lot of fans won't switch. 4. Blizzard cancels PL, but sets up a new scbw PL and buys a channel in korea to cast it and pays the top 32 professionals to play in it if they cancel their current contract and casts the games alongside the GSL (maybe late night or weekend games). This is just my spin on things. Who knows how things will actually go down. In the end, blizzard wins because they created some awesome rts games and I know if I made a game and other people started profiting from it instead of me, i would want in. Also, I like the fact that in GSL there is no team requirement meaning that anyone good enough can join in. It creates more competition which will make the league thrive more among players. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:06 regerstreen wrote: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=32313 Apparently Ongamenet left partnership with GomTV. According to the article, GSL is not on the Ongamenet's broadcasting schedule and as there were not a single acknowledgement of GSL from Ongamenet, it is speculated that they are on unfriendly terms. It's speculation. They haven't left partnership or anything. | ||
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moopie
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
As far as we all know, Blizzard is basically trying to shove SC2 down there throats, and well it's damn obvious that Kespa doesn't like the fact that Blizzard just suddenly, OUT of the blue swiftly came in basically took over. This situation is getting beyond retarded now, both sides have pushed each other SO far away it's getting to a point where trying to make up is impossible. Each side blaming the other for this mess is also dumb. Absurd, absolutely absurd. | ||
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Milkis
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On September 07 2010 11:58 Seraphic wrote: I think Teddyman has a point. BW is very big in Korea, if all of this continues to go south like it has been, I think the government might step in to do something. I mean, Kespa isn't doing itself right by forcing Blizzard, while Blizzard/Gretech's reasons to stop BW is absurd. Like I have been saying, there both wrong, and there both being unreasonable beyond I have seen. As far as we all know, Blizzard is basically trying to shove SC2 down there throats, and well it's damn obvious that Kespa doesn't like the fact that Blizzard just suddenly, OUT of the blue swiftly came in basically took over. This situation is getting beyond retarded now, both sides have pushed each other SO far away it's getting to a point where trying to make up is impossible. Each side blaming the other for this mess is also dumb. Absurd, absolutely absurd. I gotta say though that in the end Blizzard wins and kespa loses because blizzard owns the IP to starcraft...plain and simple and until kespa is willing to concede that fact, negotiations will not go anywhere. | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On September 07 2010 12:13 darmousseh wrote: I gotta say though that in the end Blizzard wins and kespa loses because blizzard owns the IP to starcraft...plain and simple and until kespa is willing to concede that fact, negotiations will not go anywhere. If both parties don't come out gaining something (winning) then nobody is going to win. They will both lose. If blizzard wins and kespa loses (proteams disband), korean public will have a bitter image of blizz/gom and gsl will be unsuccessful. If kespa wins, SC2 may not reach its full potential as an esport and Korea may lag behind the rest of the world by sticking to BW (bad for the people who love SC2 and lack of Korean E-Sports regarding SC2 may affect the longevity of sc2 due to lack of pro level games). Both parties need to come out ahead for any one of them to get out of the shit hole situation they've gotten themselves in. Also, we have to admit that we're the minority in regards to this. Most people outside of korea won't have that much bad PR to Blizz or Gom because they don't know what's going on. We only have a heightened sensitivity to this because we're involved more deeply than the average gamer. Activison Blizzard knows that bad PR doesn't affect sales and most boycotts are useless... remember CoD:MW2? | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On September 07 2010 12:13 darmousseh wrote: I gotta say though that in the end Blizzard wins and kespa loses because blizzard owns the IP to starcraft...plain and simple and until kespa is willing to concede that fact, negotiations will not go anywhere. That is true, but I'm sure they want to save face regarding all of this. they might win, but basically killing the entire e-sports will probably hurt them a lot later on. I mean, I have liked Blizzard for awhile, and seeing this basically made me realize in the end, there still a company wanting more money. Instead of seeing what is right for EVERYONE and NOT just them. When I mean everyone, I mean including Korean BW pros, and not just wanting the best, unrestricted rights for SC2 "Pros". | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On September 07 2010 12:13 darmousseh wrote: I gotta say though that in the end Blizzard wins and kespa loses because blizzard owns the IP to starcraft...plain and simple and until kespa is willing to concede that fact, negotiations will not go anywhere. Not necessarily, it's not like Blizz can just flip a switch and stop professional BW. They would need to win a court battle, and a Korean court could very well rule that Blizzards IP claim does not give it the right to shut down professional BW, or even that their IP claim is no longer valid. | ||
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