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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 12 2010 16:51 GMT
#44
I will role with you Radfield if you don't have anyone else lined up.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 12 2010 17:02 GMT
#46
As long as its not our heads I guess roll will do as well :O)
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 19 2010 21:10 GMT
#72
On August 20 2010 05:49 Qatol wrote:
It isn't looking like this game will start in time for me. /out


Don't do it!!! if Infun and I can both find teamates will we only need 1 more...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 23:20:02
August 19 2010 23:19 GMT
#75
Sign me back up, but with with Foolishness please. I didn't want the bulletproof vest Radfield made our team to go to waste.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 15 2010 15:13 GMT
#138
Just checking in. Interesting concept with the teams, I am excited for how it will pan out.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 19 2010 07:16 GMT
#186
Light Torch (in case of Grue)
Examine Metal Object.
Look under Metal Object
Examine Timer
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 20 2010 05:51 GMT
#225
Just caught up on all that has happened, but it doesn't look like I missed too much. I think it is a good idea if we have the medic protect the more active people but I think a medic list is a bad idea.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 20 2010 17:28 GMT
#239
I find the ROL vote on our team weird since BC already clarified it was regarding inactivity and no for anything suspicious. ROL then says he agrees with that and votes. I don't know much about ROL so maybe this is how he played previously.

Now that we have a no lynch,it needs to be today if we use it. Normally I don't favor a no lynch but it might be ok in this situation. The reason I say that is that we still get 2 lyches,

if we lynch wrong
2-5
Night Kill
2-4 (LYLO)
Lynch Wrong
2-3
Night Kill
2-2 Mafia WIn

No lynch
2-6
Night Kill
2-5
Miss Lynch
2-4
Night kill
2-3 (LYLO)
Miss lynch
2-2 (Mafia Win)

The value I see in a no lynch is that we end up with these two chances and a kill to base our lynches off of.
2/7
and 2/5

With a kill tonight we still have lylo after 2 lynches but our first lynch isn't made off of a kill and
we have these chances:
2/8
and 2/6

Of course this could be changed if we have power roles but I am putting forth the worst case scenario as an example. While do lose the benefit of discussion on a lynch target today we still get 2 lynches to discuss and we get today's lynch/no lynch discussion. We also get extra time since we have an additional day to discuss and we get 2 mafia hits before Lylo instead of 1 to help us pick right.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 20 2010 17:39 GMT
#240
@BB, I disagree with you saying a no lynch is bad, I think it actually makes sense. Maybe I am wrong but I think it should be discussed.

I played SC2 all yesterday so thats why I didn't get much done in this thread. sorry

Regarding the slip up, I don't think we should bandwagon on it but I think we shouldn't dismiss it either. In PYP DTA slipped up day one by mentioning exactly how many members there were and it was forgotten. While the makes assumptions the mafia knows it to be true, so even though that game DTA was defended since everyone assumed there were 4 mafia they would have been less likely to say it being as they at least a little bit know that things could be slightly different.

That said I don't even know that this is a slip up since for it to be one then both players would have to be scum. It seems he is replying tho the BB's insinuated accusation that since the post is bad he is scum. Pyrr says well he doesn't post any better when he is town.

So I guess the TLDR would be that we shouldn't weight it too heavy but keep it in mind and if one is red the other is more likely to be red as well.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 20 2010 23:02 GMT
#274
On September 21 2010 07:21 Bill Murray wrote:
I'd like to remind someone of this:

Show nested quote +
There are to be NO private messages this game for most roles. Roles that may PM will be told to them.

Its ok, Ace is your partner, he is suppose to PM you.
+ Show Spoiler +
j/k I assume it was some one else PMing you


I think it is a good point that we can use the no lynch tomorrow to get the extra time if today's fails. Now I think this is slightly worse since today's lynch would be less informed.

What this means is that we should proceed with a lynch today, and then shortly before the deadline review all players and see if the leading group is scummy enough. It is still a shot in the dark we no lynch, if the evidence is good we lynch and then no-lynch tomorrow if we were wrong.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 20 2010 23:05 GMT
#275
@ BB, I don't like the idea of the DT claiming unless he has a red. that is how a DT can prove himself.


Also there is only a 25% chance of us having both but a 50% chance of having a DT which makes the no lynch even better
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 21 2010 13:22 GMT
#332
Vote: NoLynch
Rereading the thread and catching up on what happened since I went to bed. Just wanted to be sure I don't forget to vote and get mod killed.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 22 2010 03:10 GMT
#419
Power went out, and we just got it back on so sorry for the late response guys. As for the medics action I don't think the numbers are so important as who is the medic. Every team has players who are have experience, and I think it is important to remember that they have will have a higher than average chance of picking off blues. if you are medic it is more important to try and out guess the mafia than to just play by the numbers. The mafia should win a straight up numbers game, it is the analysis that gives the town the edge.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 24 2010 03:16 GMT
#471
On September 24 2010 08:35 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 08:31 Foolishness wrote:
I'd also like to say that Incognito's analysis of the link between teams 1 and 7 is pretty damning. My suggestion and current feeling is that we lynch team 7 today, and if they turn up red our first target for next lynch should be team 1. If they turn up green (team 7 I mean) we'll have to start from square one again.


This is extremely dangerous, simply because if we fail we essentially enter into LYLO.

No matter who it is, if we misslynch it goes to LYLO, why do you feel that this plan is more dangerous than any other?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 24 2010 18:32 GMT
#493
Vote Team 7
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 26 2010 03:28 GMT
#550
On September 26 2010 10:51 Incognito wrote:
Oops

[Vote]Team 3



You just said you were going to vote for team 1, mind clarifying why you switched over without stating a reason.

I talked with Foolishness and while I am not sure I believe your claim I think team 6 is the safer lynch.

[Vote]Team 6
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 28 2010 14:20 GMT
#638
Nice deduction guys, It will be interesting to see who mafia takes a gamble on hitting tonight. GL medic on stopping them
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 28 2010 19:14 GMT
#640
but the great thing is that if you block a hit that means you and the blocked person are both confirmed,

of the 3v1 for lynch 1 or 2 are 100% confirmed (depends on if you save yourself or someone else). I know confirmed people aren't everything but it makes the job much easier, the mafia certainly don't want that to happen.

Obviously you are way ahead of me on this but
these are the 2 most likely to be mafia (with team 2 most likely)
1. LSB and Pyrrhuloxia
2. bumatlarge, Divinek, and SouthRawrea

Assuming you are the medic, and because our teams worked together for this lynch then we are the most likely townies:
3. rastaban and Foolishness
8. Infundibulum and Incognito

Mafia doesn't want to hit the other person in the first category since it makes them much more obvious. so the hit is most beneficial for them if they go for 3 or 8.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 28 2010 20:49 GMT
#642
On September 29 2010 04:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
What's stopping mafia from NKing tonight and increasing their chances of winning tomorrow because we have no choice but to lynch? You're being too naive.


I don't even know what you are meaning with this.

If they don't hit then it is like our medic had 100% success stopping them. What I was doing was giving advice on how the mafia is thinking about the hit, if they don't hit at all then obviously it doesn't matter who is protected.

Sure the mafia could pull there hit but do you really think they would do that? The huge problem with that is that if they pull their hit then and lynch wrong, there is a 1/3 chance that the town medic blocks the hit and it is game. and really only a 1/2 chance if we are certain who the mafia is. If do you really think the mafia will try and gamble on a strategy that nearly has a built in 50% chance of losing....

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
September 29 2010 21:17 GMT
#667
On September 30 2010 02:37 Divinek wrote:
i was just hoping rasta was gonna pull out another analysis pegging me as mafia again so we could have an easy free mafa lynch. o well

im playing different in this game just because i generally feel lazier and the players involved in this game are pretty boring lol so there's no point in flaring things up. Why go out of my way to make big long posts when people are making them for me, especially when most of what they say agrees with my line of thinking as i go through the thread?

yeah it's pretty sheepish and looks bad, but i really do need to establish a lazy townie image for in future games when im mob and then i can say look i played shittily as town too! lol

i keep decent tabs on people i just never care to post them, that's why pm games are so much more fun.
oh bummian where for art thou

damn what a contentless post, ya lets lynch them team 2 jokers

LOL, you discovered my favorite past time, framing Div. Hey to be fair you weren't innocent when I did it as town

I am really surprised that team i&i suspects my Foolishness and I. Foolishness has been working hardcore as town. The mafia obviously is between team 1 and 2 but it is hard to pinpoint which it is right now. Both have good arguments against them. I have to admit though, Foolishness' arguments towards team 2 seems pretty good. All the votes immediately on team 1 surprised me though as i thought most peopel agreed 2 should be next.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
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