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sfdrew
United States201 Posts
I fended off two more pushes of lings but my economy was so crippled that I could almost nothing to stop him. Each push punished me more and more until I couldn't fight back anymore. He was in my base at 3 minutes. How the hell do you counter this? I saw it coming and had no answer. | ||
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
EDIT: now that i think about it, you'll probably build your gateway whereever you decide to put it before you scout, so just pull a few probes off the line and micro with zealots. then its gg | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
In general: Don't use Chrono Boost on Probes when you eventually spot the early Pool. Save it for Zealots. Don't let your Zealot get caught out in the open and surrounded by all 6 Lings. Fight with your back up against a geyser, minerals, gateway, pylon, whatever is nearby. Don't chase the Zerglings around forever with all of your Probes. Use a handful and try to surround them and engage, leaving some Probes to continue mining so you can make at least two Zealots quickly. Some Zerg keep running away, trying to cripple your economy by THREATENING to kill Probes, rather than actually killing them. Building your Pylon and Gateway close to your Nexus is sometimes a good idea, so your Zealot isn't exposed and always has a building to hide up against, but this leaves you exposed to later Speedling harassment if you don't plan in advance for a one-Zealot-wide choke point at the 5-6 minute mark, so its a bit of a tossup. Don't get supply blocked on the 2nd Zealot. Edit: Oh and try not to fight the Zerglings at the edge of your mineral line with Probes. If they all cluster up and it ends up as a wall of 3 Zerglings battering down 2 Probes at a time, then they're going to tear them to shreds. You need to get them off the line entirely and fight just outside the Nexus, or pull them into the line and surround them in there. The more Probes you have engaging, the better. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
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Skrag
United States643 Posts
The number of probes you have when the first 6 lings get there should be enough to take all six lings with minimal losses, WITHOUT the help of a zealot. | ||
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sfdrew
United States201 Posts
The zealot actually wasn't out by the first push. I had been using my chrono boost on probes so when I saw the lings I didn't have any energy to use on my zealot. He made it out in time to kill the last remaining lings that were low on health, but so what? He killed all my probes. I guess next time I'll try to block the ramp better and save a boost for my first zealot, just in case I get cheesed again. Still, it is very annoying. This is a tough build to deal with if you aren't planning on it. You really can't scout soon enough, because by the time you do, it's too late. | ||
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askke
United States5 Posts
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UnderWorld_Dream
Canada219 Posts
7 poolers on Steppes of war are driving me crazy | ||
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eH
88 Posts
On August 07 2010 07:45 UnderWorld_Dream wrote: Crazy how much details you have to take care of to fend off this simple 'strategy'. Not to mention they only have make a pool... 7 poolers on Steppes of war are driving me crazy Why is it crazy? Its one of the earliest rushes possible, and if you hold it off with minimal losses you've already won the game. Zerglings are weak, we all know that, keep your zealot from getting surrounded and micro a few probes, zerg will have absolutely no economy to follow it up if he fails. | ||
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Keap
United States214 Posts
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On August 07 2010 07:45 UnderWorld_Dream wrote: Crazy how much details you have to take care of to fend off this simple 'strategy'. Not to mention they only have make a pool... 7 poolers on Steppes of war are driving me crazy right and what about the myriad of proxies etc that get thrown at zerg. probe micro is all you need to fend this off. too bad drone micro won't save you from a proxy 2 gate. | ||
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TheTuna
United States286 Posts
If he goes with just 6 lings, swarm him with your workers and you'll probably be fine. The big mistake a lot of people make against 7pools is panicking and trying to run with the workers, letting them get picked off. Take on 6 lings with 15 workers, and you have pretty solid odds at winning. Optimally rushing a Zealot would be good, as you don't want his incoming reinforcements to cripple you. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
kinda like sc1  at least there aren't lurkers lol | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
You have 2 choice: either use the 2 gates build at the pathway near the 3rd to seal of the deal, OR instant ly stop probe production, save money to spam pylons and wall off your choke. 2nd choice require a fast reaction, early scout and a little bit of luck but it gives you more option to open vZ on that map  edit: Travis, we r in same division =) | ||
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
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Afterhours
United States125 Posts
Against Zerg on Scrap Station? I will 10gate. Against Zerg on Lost Temple at 12/6? 12 or 13gate depending on what I scout. | ||
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Fitz
Canada77 Posts
Crazy how much details you have to take care of to fend off this simple 'strategy'. Not to mention they only have make a pool... 7 poolers on Steppes of war are driving me crazy Do you know how much details a zerg faces against a simple early double gate zealots pressure ? As for the OP, well you'll have to pull a couple probes and micro them along with your zealots, you can also pylon block your entrance while waiting for zealots to pop. Even if you loost 3 or 4 probes in the process you'll come out of this years ahead. | ||
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nahk4r
United States47 Posts
On August 07 2010 07:45 UnderWorld_Dream wrote: Crazy how much details you have to take care of to fend off this simple 'strategy'. Not to mention they only have make a pool... 7 poolers on Steppes of war are driving me crazy perhaps making a spawning pool is very easy. but the focus of this build is to try to beat the protoss in microing, because once this is stopped then the zerg simply types "gg" and leaves. you have to face completely blocked off chokes, probes + zealots, what to attack, what to move, etc because for one thing protoss is way up in mineral count and you don't you are forced with a certain amount of zerglings and perhaps some drones but that still doesn't help too much. making the pool at 7 drone isn't the focus here. the focus here is to actually devastate the protoss base in order to either win or be at the same place you are at which... well... unless you kill everything except for nexus and the protoss has very little minerals left. | ||
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Yuka
United States133 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
12gate, chrono your zealot, should be out right when ling arrives, attack with zealot and 7-8 probes. If you scout it early a 12 14 gate will end it right away, or you can continue the tech build after you kill the lings. Forge is useless, wallin may be good since usually their follow up is more lings. 7(5 pool?) pool feels very weak compared to bw, only the smarter ai attacks probes too. | ||
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