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Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
July 29 2010 04:36 GMT
#1
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Manlot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Mexico111 Posts
July 29 2010 04:40 GMT
#2
Just keep building from the beginning Vikings, dont lose any of them or you will regret it at the end. When the protoss deply their squadrons of death be prepared and send your vikings to intercept them before they reach your allies position. The reason behind this is because they dont attack you. Finally, keep pumping marines from a rax with a reactor, and again, dont lose too many of them. When the mothership is really close to your base star building tons and tons of turrets with the money left. GL
Squanto
Profile Joined May 2010
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 04:42:14
July 29 2010 04:41 GMT
#3
same here. I've been completing all the missions easily on hard but this one I just can't seem to grasp. It's kinda hard to keep all the infestations down, and if one gets up too long your screwed.

edit: picked protoss side.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 04:43:25
July 29 2010 04:41 GMT
#4
the mission is very straightforward, get a reactor on your starport and start massing vikings, use your batch of vikings to traverse the terrain, kill the first location, repair and wait it out.

Recipe for taking out the infected villages before the thing hatches: Skirt around the edges to pick of the mutas and broodlords with minimal loss and land. kill the big morphing thing and mass up mmm with hellion support to push onto the zerg top expansion for a fast expo.

Do repair the vikings and invest in armory for +1 +2 shipweapons.

oh and theres around 400 gas hidden down in the left corner.

"Mudkip"
fourthirds
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada132 Posts
July 29 2010 04:42 GMT
#5
I chose to cleanse rather than protect and won pretty easily using tanks, M&M and vikings. However, I only protected 2 settlements because my army was pretty slow. I think straight M&M out of 4 or 5 rax plus vikings would've been better. A single bunker with marines and an scv to repair at each choke will easily protect your base from the units that trickle in. I think the vikings are necessary just to deal with the broodlords.
Euphemism
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 04:46:02
July 29 2010 04:45 GMT
#6
EDIT: Picked the cleansing side.

Main point: Build vikings, mass marine/medics. When an infestation goes down, send in the vikings to kill off the mutas, try pulling them one by one. Then take down the broodlords. Then, finally, you can send in your ground force. Additionally, you can pull the mutas into your marine force so that your vikings don't take too much damage.

The main problem is that as soon as you clear out one infestation, there's a good chance a second one's starting up somewhere else. If you don't clear out the infestation, you've got to deal with a steady stream of enemies, and killing all those buildings will take a while.

I think the order is deterministic, i.e. the first site infested is always the one to the south of you. If you 'know' ahead of time which ones will be infested, then leaving some forces in the appropriate locations should buy you enough time to macro up to a good level. That's kinda cheating though

If you can manage to build up three forces - one to clear out infestations, one to kill off bases, and one smaller one to defend against base attacks - you'll be fine.

Note that the southern base has banelings.
TROGZ
Profile Joined April 2010
United States132 Posts
July 29 2010 07:13 GMT
#7
Ok, I did this actually REALLY easy on hard, while also picking up the acheivements to protect 3 and 5 settlements. I massed Diamond backs and vikings in my base while making two nuke silos + A few Ghost/Spectres. As soon as a settlement would be infected, I would nuke it before it went up and only once got a ghost to close to the infestation that I got spotted by an overseer.

TL:DR Mass in your base and nuke the new infestations.
"...Damn! Premature detonation!" -Marauder
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
July 29 2010 07:20 GMT
#8
Easy! Do the other mission, finish the whole campaign then just go there and use Battlecruisers, marines and medics =)
Meh
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
July 29 2010 07:22 GMT
#9
On July 29 2010 16:13 TROGZ wrote:
Ok, I did this actually REALLY easy on hard, while also picking up the acheivements to protect 3 and 5 settlements. I massed Diamond backs and vikings in my base while making two nuke silos + A few Ghost/Spectres. As soon as a settlement would be infected, I would nuke it before it went up and only once got a ghost to close to the infestation that I got spotted by an overseer.

TL:DR Mass in your base and nuke the new infestations.


you realize most people, when doing this mission, dont have ghosts?
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
July 29 2010 07:25 GMT
#10
I'll tell you how I beat it on brutal.

The main problem with this mission is that if you play too passively you'll get overwhelmed. You need to start attacking the infested camps literally immediately. Take your first couple vikings and clear out the first camp, they should be able to do it by themselves. Start with the brood lords obviously.

I forgot exactly what order the infestations happen in, but I ended up going north and expanding at the top location. The most important thing about this mission is that you have to hit new infestations the moment they pop up.

Zerg units that attack your base either come from the north zerg base or the south zerg base. You'll need to expand to one of these locations, which means it's a good idea to push in that direction with your main army and bunker/siege up the other side of your base.

What I did was mass vikings (obviously), and then transition into upgraded bio with siege support. Mercs help. I got siege breakers and one or two siege tanks to bolster them.

After the first infested base is down, the second one that gets infested is to the south. Head there immediately with your vikings (should have like 5-7). Kite back the mutalisks one at a time and try to pick off brood lords while massing up marines/medics/marauders/firebats. Be wary, there's 1-3 hydralisks. After the brood lords are down, a-move your army into the infested base. I put a bunker and two tanks at the north entrance while doing this to defend attacks from the north base.

At this point, I went to the newest infestation, which was to the north I believe. I bunkered up the south entrance, salvaged the north bunker, and pushed to the north. On the way to the 3rd infestation I killed the zerg base on the north side of the map and expanded there. Making it a planetary fortress should be enough defense, if you don't have it perdition turrets work fine.

As I was taking out the 3rd base, the 4th infestation site started to spawn, so I went up there and took it out before anything was up. That site got infested again later, but I was able to clean it up with a handful of units and actually save that base

After the 3rd/4th infestation bases were down, I had like 100-125 supply and was able to basically just a-move into all the other bases and win. I continued clockwise around the map. Occasionally your main will get attacked, make sure you have a couple units there. At worst you can just fly your vikings back to save it. The most important part is taking out the brood lords with your vikings first.

After I got about 12 vikings I stopped producing them, opting instead for all bio since they were 2/2 (max upgrades for that mission I believe).

Hope this helps.
good vibes only
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 29 2010 19:09 GMT
#11
Once you get 3 or 4 Siege Tanks + a bunker up at each choke to your base, it is really easy to defend. I massed Marine/Medic/Viking and just went destroyed. It isn't a good way to get achievements because of the passive style though.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
July 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#12
I built nothin but vikings on brutal and won. Take you first vikings and kil the infested area, keep building vikings. Take your vikings and kill the top base, while still building vikings. Build more vikings. Kill everything, build more vikings, victory!
Swissm
Profile Joined June 2010
United States207 Posts
July 29 2010 19:25 GMT
#13
Beat this on brutal first try by massing M&M with upgrades, didn't build any other units. Build up a force then move south when you know you have enough to wipe out first infestation before it spawns, after that hold off for a min or so and then wipe out the south base. By this time you should have enough to hit the upper infestations when the start to go live with a new force. By the end I was at like 200/200 just pure marine + medic.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 19:28:15
July 29 2010 19:27 GMT
#14
On July 29 2010 16:22 AnxietE wrote:
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On July 29 2010 16:13 TROGZ wrote:
Ok, I did this actually REALLY easy on hard, while also picking up the acheivements to protect 3 and 5 settlements. I massed Diamond backs and vikings in my base while making two nuke silos + A few Ghost/Spectres. As soon as a settlement would be infected, I would nuke it before it went up and only once got a ghost to close to the infestation that I got spotted by an overseer.

TL:DR Mass in your base and nuke the new infestations.


you realize most people, when doing this mission, dont have ghosts?

What's stopping them from going to get them first? The missions to get them aren't that hard--especially the last one, since it's a base-less mission and what units you've unlocked is irrelevant.

You have the option to do missions in a different order. If it gets you unstuck, why not do it?
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ejitoss
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada24 Posts
July 29 2010 19:35 GMT
#15
i just went mnm with viking support and patrol around the map with my group split in 2 and cleaned this mission real fast and easy.
ktffang
Profile Joined July 2009
United States120 Posts
July 29 2010 20:36 GMT
#16
how are you guys getting seige tanks and ghosts when it's not available yet for the mission?
7 times dowm, 8 times up
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 29 2010 21:17 GMT
#17
M&M + Tanks + Vikings OWN.
Btw, there is a large number of gas pellats that you can gather in the early game in the bottom left corner of the map.
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thekrnkid
Profile Joined November 2008
United States37 Posts
July 29 2010 22:02 GMT
#18
I believe you can actually stop the infestations from happening or at least that was the case for me. The zerg needs a drone? to create the virophage and they seem to be transported through the overlord/overseer. Also there may be some sort of order that they come in. I just made viking/hellion and put it in each place until i made a large enough army then a move win
IUJesSica
balistix
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia63 Posts
July 30 2010 01:51 GMT
#19
i cant make any tanks it won't let me how are you guys getting them
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
July 30 2010 02:00 GMT
#20
i think u get tanks from The Dig mission which is given to you by Tycus, so just do all Tycus missions until you get tanks.
...from the land of imba
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