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What is your budget?
500-700 is the goal but I will spend up to 1000 or so if I don't have to upgrade for say another year or so
What is your resolution?
1280x1024
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming and potential Streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2 years
When do you plan on building it?
asap
Do you plan on overclocking?
never overclocked any system before, but not against it
Do you need an Operating System?
yes and would like windows 7 pro instead of home
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
do not plan on it but would like to stream in 720p, at least 480p
Where are you buying your parts from?
US based internet only, no store near
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227387 is an example system that I would like for the price, but the motherboard not being 67 and a gpu looks low to me, the untrained eye
if http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DWH07 for example would add a year onto my comp or be my only option for streaming I will pony up the cash
I do want a SSD have a working computer that I could use for storage and when I start streaming I will add another HD
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On January 31 2012 03:51 Cilien wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? 500-700 is the goal but I will spend up to 1000 or so if I don't have to upgrade for say another year or so What is your resolution? 1280x1024 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming and potential Streaming What is your upgrade cycle? 2 years When do you plan on building it? asap Do you plan on overclocking? never overclocked any system before, but not against it Do you need an Operating System? yes and would like windows 7 pro instead of home Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? do not plan on it but would like to stream in 720p, at least 480p Where are you buying your parts from? US based internet only, no store near http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227387 is an example system that I would like for the price, but the motherboard not being 67 and a gpu looks low to me, the untrained eye if http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DWH07 for example would add a year onto my comp or be my only option for streaming I will pony up the cash I do want a SSD have a working computer that I could use for storage and when I start streaming I will add another HD
GPU just determines what settings and resolution you can play games at smoothly. Streaming is dependent on the processor and your upload.
If you need Professional than can't you just get that from school or workplace?
A Radeon HD6670 is fine for your resolution. It won't be fine at 1080p if you plan on getting a new monitor sometime in the future.
If you want to overclock than you'll have to wait since 2500k is out of stock right now, it'll add about $70 to the total. If you plan on getting a new monitor as well, I'd suggest getting a Radeon HD6850 or 6870 as well - which will add about ~$80 to your total.
An non-overclockable configuration with a 6670 is already at $691:
Intel Core i5 2400 & Patroit Signature 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $216
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124
Sapphire Radeon HD6670 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102952
Corsair CX430V2 @ $37 ($17 after mail in rebate) (with promo code EMCNJHD22, ends 2/1)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
+ Show Spoiler [Shellshocker (HOT), Antec Neo Eco 400C…] +http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
Intel H67 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121506
Plextor M3 128GB @ $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249014
DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1141
Coolermaster Elite 370 @ $32
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55447
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional @ $125
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45275&promoid=1141
If you want an overclockable configuration with a stronger GPU, look below: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554¤tpage=913#18244
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Hi. My sister would like to get a computer for playing games such as SC2, WoW, Diablo, Sims, etc. and general day-to-day
use.
Budget:
$450
Resolution:
1920 x 1080
Upgrade Cycle:
would like to use it for as long as possible before having to upgrade.
When am I building it:
ASAP
overclocking:
wasn't planning on it
OS:
yes we need one although you don't have to include it in the price if you can't fit it in there.
second GPU:
No
Where are you buying the parts:
Newegg probably
Thanks in advance
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It's a hot deal but ME is a Canadian retailer.
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So is this the best i can do with a budget of $1000 if not can someone else please make me a build that i can decide that is good or not. right now i am thinking that gpu suck or do better. Anyone can beat this build please help. I am hopping building and buying the product asap!
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There's plenty of ways you can do a $1000 configuration. If you don't think SSDs are worth it than you can take the $185 and invest it into a core i7 or a SLI / CrossfireX capable motherboard and power supply with a better GPU or a better case or invest a little more for a 7970.
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skyR want to thank you for your help, new pc, in peices that is, ordered and I am waiting now
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looking for some1 to put together a newegg or tiger build for me
What is your budget?
1,500$
What are you using it for?
gaming/video editing
What is your upgrade cycle?
2years +
When do you plan on building it?
within a month
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes
Do you need an Operating System?
no
pref's
23" monitor
needs a good audio card(recording via mic)
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So this thread helped me build a PC for myself. Now I want to get one for my mother for her birthday, with help from my siblings. I want to spend $300-$400 on it, and with ridiculously cheap Sandy Bridges from Microcenter that's easy. I have a few questions though. My mom will most likely just be using Microsoft Office, YouTube, email, and listening to music, but she's also not the savviest user. I think I may actually include a "quick-start" guide on how NOT to install every anti-virus and anti-spyware and tool bar that everything says you should, and general guidelines and how not to be scammed etc.
With Microsoft Security Essentials and an idea of how to browse, I think she'll be better off than with her current Pentium 4 and shitload of random backup and security programs. All of that in mind:
1) Would an average user such as herself see an advantage going from a G620 to a 2100 to a 2400?
2) Should I even consider a low-end discrete GPU, or even Llano, or is Intel HD graphics enough for YouTubing / watching movies / some minimally graphic programs? I suppose I could just buy a 6550 or something in the future if she for some reason needs it.
3) With a G620 and no discrete card, I could probably get a 64-128GB SSD along with a storage drive. Would this make the experience sufficiently "snappier" enough to make it worthwhile? I personally don't have one, but the main goal is to make her computing experience less horrible. Could also sink a lot more into say a Caviar Black instead of cheap OEM 500GB drive.
I've used her PC, and it takes like two minutes to start up, loading a browser takes 30 seconds, etc. I know an SSD is hardly necessary to fix this, but I would like to know what you think the best use of resources is, processor vs. graphics vs. hard drive. And this includes "future-proofing." That's the biggest reason I assume Llano is garbage, since a G620 could be replaced by an i5 Ivy Bridge two years from now if necessary. And FM1 is about to be dead. Ivy Bridge and FM2 may be out by the time we build it. I assume, however, the uselessness of AMD will persist.
So the question is really G620 vs. i3 I suppose, and cheap discrete card and an SSD are options.
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On February 01 2012 02:57 Ancestral wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So this thread helped me build a PC for myself. Now I want to get one for my mother for her birthday, with help from my siblings. I want to spend $300-$400 on it, and with ridiculously cheap Sandy Bridges from Microcenter that's easy. I have a few questions though. My mom will most likely just be using Microsoft Office, YouTube, email, and listening to music, but she's also not the savviest user. I think I may actually include a "quick-start" guide on how NOT to install every anti-virus and anti-spyware and tool bar that everything says you should, and general guidelines and how not to be scammed etc.
With Microsoft Security Essentials and an idea of how to browse, I think she'll be better off than with her current Pentium 4 and shitload of random backup and security programs. All of that in mind:
1) Would an average user such as herself see an advantage going from a G620 to a 2100 to a 2400?
2) Should I even consider a low-end discrete GPU, or even Llano, or is Intel HD graphics enough for YouTubing / watching movies / some minimally graphic programs? I suppose I could just buy a 6550 or something in the future if she for some reason needs it.
3) With a G620 and no discrete card, I could probably get a 64-128GB SSD along with a storage drive. Would this make the experience sufficiently "snappier" enough to make it worthwhile? I personally don't have one, but the main goal is to make her computing experience less horrible. Could also sink a lot more into say a Caviar Black instead of cheap OEM 500GB drive.
I've used her PC, and it takes like two minutes to start up, loading a browser takes 30 seconds, etc. I know an SSD is hardly necessary to fix this, but I would like to know what you think the best use of resources is, processor vs. graphics vs. hard drive. And this includes "future-proofing." That's the biggest reason I assume Llano is garbage, since a G620 could be replaced by an i5 Ivy Bridge two years from now if necessary. And FM1 is about to be dead. Ivy Bridge and FM2 may be out by the time we build it. I assume, however, the uselessness of AMD will persist.
So the question is really G620 vs. i3 I suppose, and cheap discrete card and an SSD are options.
1. No, absolutely not.
2. No. Waste of money
3. This is a much better investment, something that is noticeable. If she doesn't have a ton of large media that she saves (lots of music, pictures, and videos, occupying upward of 100GB or more) then a 64-128GB SSD is probably all the space she'll ever need (don't forget to disable Hibernate and reduce the swap file size to save 10+GB) - it makes a hugely noticeable difference (also think of how quickly antivirus and Windows will update and start up, saving YOU a lot of pain/time and making her very happy), unlike #1 or #2. If you're not installing Windows 7, make sure you grab a SSD that has its own internal garbage collection though (forget off the top of my head which ones do)
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On January 31 2012 07:35 soullogik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +looking for some1 to put together a newegg or tiger build for me
What is your budget?
1,500$
What are you using it for?
gaming/video editing
What is your upgrade cycle?
2years +
When do you plan on building it?
within a month
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes
Do you need an Operating System?
no
pref's
23" monitor
needs a good audio card(recording via mic)
Use above build
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Add in a U2312HM or a better IPS monitor and add a HT|Omega, ASUS Xonar or another sound card that fits your needs. Maybe change to a 2600k as well depending on how much you have left over.
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Dear CBRTians 
Asking for a friend of mine, is this list decent, would you recommend it?
http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-133583
Resolution 1920*1050, no overclocking planned.
He will probably go for 8gb ram (why not?) and a bigger SSD (128gb). He has enough storage space, only Windows7 and some games have to be installed.
Main questions:
Is the mainboard good enough? Should he spend a few bucks more for a better (ASUS?) mb, if so, which one would you recommend?
Is the Graphics Card too much/could he go with a cheaper NVIDIA card? If so, which one would you recommend? He'd like to play Battlefield3 on ultra.
Any other tips on how to save a few bucks or get a better case/power supply are much appreciated as always.
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On February 01 2012 07:25 chocopaw wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Dear CBRTians Asking for a friend of mine, is this list decent, would you recommend it? http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-133583Resolution 1920*1050, no overclocking planned. He will probably go for 8gb ram (why not?) and a bigger SSD (128gb). He has enough storage space, only Windows7 and some games have to be installed. Main questions: Is the mainboard good enough? Should he spend a few bucks more for a better (ASUS?) mb, if so, which one would you recommend? Is the Graphics Card too much/could he go with a cheaper NVIDIA card? If so, which one would you recommend? He'd like to play Battlefield3 on ultra. Any other tips on how to save a few bucks or get a better case/power supply are much appreciated as always.
Both the Z68 motherboard and 2500k is primarily for overclocking. If you have no intention of overclocking than get a regular core i5 2500 and a H67 motherboard.
A Thermalright HR-02 is not necessary for non-overclockers.
Get a Superflower Golden Green Pro 450 instead: http://geizhals.de/596382
If you want 8gb of memory, get a 2x4gb kit instead of a 4x4gb kit.
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On February 01 2012 03:06 Wabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 02:57 Ancestral wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So this thread helped me build a PC for myself. Now I want to get one for my mother for her birthday, with help from my siblings. I want to spend $300-$400 on it, and with ridiculously cheap Sandy Bridges from Microcenter that's easy. I have a few questions though. My mom will most likely just be using Microsoft Office, YouTube, email, and listening to music, but she's also not the savviest user. I think I may actually include a "quick-start" guide on how NOT to install every anti-virus and anti-spyware and tool bar that everything says you should, and general guidelines and how not to be scammed etc.
With Microsoft Security Essentials and an idea of how to browse, I think she'll be better off than with her current Pentium 4 and shitload of random backup and security programs. All of that in mind:
1) Would an average user such as herself see an advantage going from a G620 to a 2100 to a 2400?
2) Should I even consider a low-end discrete GPU, or even Llano, or is Intel HD graphics enough for YouTubing / watching movies / some minimally graphic programs? I suppose I could just buy a 6550 or something in the future if she for some reason needs it.
3) With a G620 and no discrete card, I could probably get a 64-128GB SSD along with a storage drive. Would this make the experience sufficiently "snappier" enough to make it worthwhile? I personally don't have one, but the main goal is to make her computing experience less horrible. Could also sink a lot more into say a Caviar Black instead of cheap OEM 500GB drive.
I've used her PC, and it takes like two minutes to start up, loading a browser takes 30 seconds, etc. I know an SSD is hardly necessary to fix this, but I would like to know what you think the best use of resources is, processor vs. graphics vs. hard drive. And this includes "future-proofing." That's the biggest reason I assume Llano is garbage, since a G620 could be replaced by an i5 Ivy Bridge two years from now if necessary. And FM1 is about to be dead. Ivy Bridge and FM2 may be out by the time we build it. I assume, however, the uselessness of AMD will persist.
So the question is really G620 vs. i3 I suppose, and cheap discrete card and an SSD are options. 1. No, absolutely not. 2. No. Waste of money 3. This is a much better investment, something that is noticeable. If she doesn't have a ton of large media that she saves (lots of music, pictures, and videos, occupying upward of 100GB or more) then a 64-128GB SSD is probably all the space she'll ever need (don't forget to disable Hibernate and reduce the swap file size to save 10+GB) - it makes a hugely noticeable difference (also think of how quickly antivirus and Windows will update and start up, saving YOU a lot of pain/time and making her very happy), unlike #1 or #2. If you're not installing Windows 7, make sure you grab a SSD that has its own internal garbage collection though (forget off the top of my head which ones do)
Agreed, if the budget allows, skimp on everything (well don't go lower than 4GB of RAM just in case) but get an SSD. Any type of Core 2 Duo or later or so is plenty for normal people. All SSDs have their own garbage collection of sorts, but some behave significantly differently than others. If you use Windows 7 then all modern ones should be fine with TRIM in that environment so it's not an issue for that kind of use.
Modern Windows is more secure and hopefully just like MSE should be enough in general on that front unless the user clicks "yes" on everything.
On February 01 2012 07:35 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 07:25 chocopaw wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Dear CBRTians Asking for a friend of mine, is this list decent, would you recommend it? http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-133583Resolution 1920*1050, no overclocking planned. He will probably go for 8gb ram (why not?) and a bigger SSD (128gb). He has enough storage space, only Windows7 and some games have to be installed. Main questions: Is the mainboard good enough? Should he spend a few bucks more for a better (ASUS?) mb, if so, which one would you recommend? Is the Graphics Card too much/could he go with a cheaper NVIDIA card? If so, which one would you recommend? He'd like to play Battlefield3 on ultra. Any other tips on how to save a few bucks or get a better case/power supply are much appreciated as always. Both the Z68 motherboard and 2500k is primarily for overclocking. If you have no intention of overclocking than get a regular core i5 2500 and a H67 motherboard. A Thermalright HR-02 is not necessary for non-overclockers. Get a Superflower Golden Green Pro 450 instead: http://geizhals.de/596382If you want 8gb of memory, get a 2x4gb kit instead of a 4x4gb kit.
This is pretty much all I'd say there except there's a typo. 4x4gb should probably be 4x2gb. It doesn't cost more, go with two sticks rather than four if possible. That was the point being made.
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On February 01 2012 07:25 chocopaw wrote:Dear CBRTians Asking for a friend of mine, is this list decent, would you recommend it? http://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-133583Resolution 1920*1050, no overclocking planned. He will probably go for 8gb ram (why not?) and a bigger SSD (128gb). He has enough storage space, only Windows7 and some games have to be installed. Main questions: Is the mainboard good enough? Should he spend a few bucks more for a better (ASUS?) mb, if so, which one would you recommend? Is the Graphics Card too much/could he go with a cheaper NVIDIA card? If so, which one would you recommend? He'd like to play Battlefield3 on ultra. Any other tips on how to save a few bucks or get a better case/power supply are much appreciated as always.
I wouldn't recommend that case. Except for seeming a bit expensive for what it is, cases with so many inside plastic switches and rubber for various things will often malfunction with time. But I haven't built in it and the german reviews seems positive so maybe I'm wrong.
And unless you feel you need to have some other features on the motherboard, there is no need to change to, say ASUS. Contrary to what some people believe, Asrock doesn't make bad motherboards anymore.
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If you're talking about the expansion card retention system, I haven't used it either, but it should be metal switches (not plastic) on these Lancool K5x / K6x cases:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1206-page4.html
A lot of plasticky tool-less systems are prone for failure though, that's for sure. The optical drive tool-less systems, if present, can usually just be replaced by traditional screws if you want though, and certainly to hold it on the reverse side. So that's not as big a deal.
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