EPT"the reasoning behind my lynch is so fucking bad and people are going to feel so good about it
its called luck"
AHAHAHA I KNEW IT
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
"the reasoning behind my lynch is so fucking bad and people are going to feel so good about it its called luck" AHAHAHA I KNEW IT | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:05 NoSmurfHere wrote: are you kidding? You had 10 pages of filter in an 85 page game lol. Don't kid yourself :p also I found it hilarious you chastised people for not reading your (very hard to read) posts when you weren't reading anything yourself lol. At least be realistic :p I was reading everything.... ....except the setup related stuff >_> Seriously, I think there was something in my brain that prevented me from holding information about the setup Hey! At least I'm posting less, that should be a bonus  | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Note to self: never second guess a scumread based off Ace advice. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
GG gents. Could very easily have been a flawless victory! | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:10 Keirathi wrote: Ah well. GG gents. Could very easily have been a flawless victory! I'm just happy we won :D | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:01 gonzaw wrote: Ta Tá! Fuck you guys for not helping me lynch Dropbear on D1 when he had 5 votes  agreed wtf I needed that towncred also as you can see from the qts if I knew that my fake broken wrist would have almost worked like that I would have started posting sooner. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
wbg in obs qt: So, you force a guy to get wrong reads. That's not hard, and the easiest person to do this on would have been gonzaw. All of his reads have been wrong all game pretty much (from what I've read.) Hey! >: ( Apart from thinking Dropbear was likely town at one point, and being suspicious of solstice and Milton at another point, I don't see how "wrong" my reads were...? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:03 Risen wrote: No need. I played really bad this game. I had the hospital thing (unexpected) and the driving to and from vegas thing going on (expected) and thought it wouldn't affect me as much as it did. For those in the obs QT who think I think too highly of myself. I know I played a horrible game, but the only way I could think of that I was going to survive was by going ape shit in thread. <3 | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:21 gonzaw wrote: Hey! >: ( Apart from thinking Dropbear was likely town at one point, and being suspicious of solstice and Milton at another point, I don't see how "wrong" my reads were...? I don't necessarily think that your reads were wrong. You just made so many reads that you were bound to be right occasionally. I posted this before from my notes, but this was just up until the end of day 2: + Show Spoiler + gonzaw Townie Reads: Vivax, solstice, scib, tali, me; Risen, me; austin, Scum Reads: Risen, S&B, matt; austin, S&B, me, drop, risen; S&B, tali, austin; Tali, Drop, solstice, matt, risen, me; Null Reads: marv, austin, Risen;; Arguments against: Drop, Risen, Milton, matt; matt, Risen; Matt, Risen, votes: Drop, me, vivax;;tali You have scum reads in the first 2 days on 9 out of the 13 players. And town reads on over half of the people you had scum reads on. I generally didn't find any individual post of yours hard to keep up with, but overall, you were a trainwreck. You had so many opinions and they changed so wildly and rapidly, that it was easier to just devalue what you were saying most of the time. Not that I ignored it per se, because you did have some good points, but it was just too hard to know what your current opinion was most of the time. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:26 Risen wrote: And yeah that included my shouting for nomination nonsense (I picked that up from Mattchew lol) Which I believe I called you out for | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I still had doubts about his alignment because he can do any play as scum and could have done that play as scum, but I didn't see the "obvious" scum benefits in it as if he was actually town. I thought I played well in D3? I tried to post reasons and reasons for why Mattchew was scum, why Risen was a bad lynch, and why Keirathi was town (all accurate ones), yet nobody seemed to listen to me. I had more doubts of Milton than Dropbear because of how easy he sheeped Mattchew, which made me think the scum team was desperately trying to get me lynched. Also, what really made me an "easy target" like everybody was saying in the obs QT? I really didn't get why people were so suspicious of me, I honestly don't. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:28 Keirathi wrote: I don't necessarily think that your reads were wrong. You just made so many reads that you were bound to be right occasionally. I posted this before from my notes, but this was just up until the end of day 2: + Show Spoiler + gonzaw Townie Reads: Vivax, solstice, scib, tali, me; Risen, me; austin, Scum Reads: Risen, S&B, matt; austin, S&B, me, drop, risen; S&B, tali, austin; Tali, Drop, solstice, matt, risen, me; Null Reads: marv, austin, Risen;; Arguments against: Drop, Risen, Milton, matt; matt, Risen; Matt, Risen, votes: Drop, me, vivax;;tali You have scum reads in the first 2 days on 9 out of the 13 players. And town reads on over half of the people you had scum reads on. I generally didn't find any individual post of yours hard to keep up with, but overall, you were a trainwreck. You had so many opinions and they changed so wildly and rapidly, that it was easier to just devalue what you were saying most of the time. Not that I ignored it per se, because you did have some good points, but it was just too hard to know what your current opinion was most of the time. If I have "bad" reads initially...then surely it's better that I changed my mind into better reads later instead of keeping the bad reads, right? Ever since iGrok's game that's what I'm trying to do, reconsider my reads each time and see if I was wrong or not, and change them accordingly. Yes, my reads on D1 (other than my Vivax read, and well the solstice one which I changed >_>) weren't good, but after N1 (when I suspected talis and backed off S&B and Keirathi and austin) I don't see how I was a "trainwreck"...? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:29 gonzaw wrote: Thank god I was able to read Risen correctly >_> I still had doubts about his alignment because he can do any play as scum and could have done that play as scum, but I didn't see the "obvious" scum benefits in it as if he was actually town. I thought I played well in D3? I tried to post reasons and reasons for why Mattchew was scum, why Risen was a bad lynch, and why Keirathi was town (all accurate ones), yet nobody seemed to listen to me. I had more doubts of Milton than Dropbear because of how easy he sheeped Mattchew, which made me think the scum team was desperately trying to get me lynched. Also, what really made me an "easy target" like everybody was saying in the obs QT? I really didn't get why people were so suspicious of me, I honestly don't. You had so many cases. Sooooo manyyyyy casessssss. That and matt's tunneling of you made me suspicious of you both. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
sciberbia wrote: Will anyone ever take the hint and fakeclaim... As a VT, getting yourself killed at night isn't such a bad thing I thought about it. Too much of a risk when I don't know who the real Mason is though. I felt like whoever was mason was waiting to claim in the hopes that someone would fake-claim and they could get them lynched. I was pretty sure you were Mason (hence why I said I was 95% sure you were, and then accidentally said your name in the heat of the argument with Risen), but I didn't know what your feelings were towards me. If I fake-claimed, you probably would have outed me and wasted a mislynch. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:32 Risen wrote: You had so many cases. Sooooo manyyyyy casessssss. That and matt's tunneling of you made me suspicious of you both. Nah that was on D1, after that I didn't have much cases, just "long" thoughts. | ||
NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:21 gonzaw wrote: Hey! >: ( Apart from thinking Dropbear was likely town at one point, and being suspicious of solstice and Milton at another point, I don't see how "wrong" my reads were...? the only reason you suspected Mattchew was because of OMGUS. Literally. If you hadn't noticed, you almost died on the previous day, but survived kind of luckily (still not really sure how that happened given that half the townies said Mattchew was town) For example, look at this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147¤tpage=15#284 massive wall of text that no one really wants to read. All 3 reads are wrong. (Austin, SnB, Keirathi) (and in the previous post you list 3 different guys who you all think might be scum: DB, Risen, Milkton. 1/6) Also, some of your opinions were just flat-out bad, especially the mason one. Masons don't claim at the start of d1. You could've been mislynched for this because it's very antitown to say "no one discusses this, masons claim now, and if they claim later they're scummy". The fact is that nowhere in any guide does it say masons must immediately claim. In fact, in many cases it's a waste of the role. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147¤tpage=19#367 another post indicating you not reading the thread, yet still posting shit. Simple fact of the matter is that if you haven't understood the setup, stop posting until you do. It's not hard: just read the damn OP. Everyone else managed to do that except you, yet you continued to post pages upon pages of misinformed garbage. This post sums it up: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351147¤tpage=19#368 When you post the way you did on d1, people can't help but call you scum. Finally, regardless of whether some of your reads were right, I have the same problem with you that I have with other people who claim undue credit for reads: for most of the game you tunneled townies such as Keirathi and strongandbig. In addition you had very large lists of players you found scummy, and very rarely did it seem like you were paring these reads down. Thus if you find 8 players scummy and ultimately 2 of them are actually scum it's not impressive at all given that there are only 3 scum and 12 players besides yourself to begin with. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:33 Keirathi wrote: From Mason QT: I thought about it. Too much of a risk when I don't know who the real Mason is though. I felt like whoever was mason was waiting to claim in the hopes that someone would fake-claim and they could get them lynched. I was pretty sure you were Mason (hence why I said I was 95% sure you were, and then accidentally said your name in the heat of the argument with Risen), but I didn't know what your feelings were towards me. If I fake-claimed, you probably would have outed me and wasted a mislynch. yea I guess it would have been risky :/ i should've explicitly hinted or something. you couldn't know how I would react. For the record, mason QT blows scum QT out of the water! Fuck yea! Was really fun austin. Couldn't have asked for a better role or mason partner | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Risen's backtracking on his claim was also stupid if the scumteam was competent (or had 2 members alive at least). The chance for a lie as town to be beneficial is so slim that it's best to never lie. There is no reason to, it more than often hurts your own faction more than it helps. | ||
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