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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:06 GMT
#1641
Well, you have 5 hours.

How would you like a Tyrran lynch?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
February 28 2012 17:07 GMT
#1642
On February 29 2012 01:55 prplhz wrote:
Okay lets lynch god damn Tyrran.

His filter shows him not putting any effort into the game at all. Compare to Steamship Liquidia where he actually tries to do anything. Also, his filter looks like he's just skirting by, he doesn't attempt to have any influence on the game at all.

This post he unvotes Blazinghand because of a really bad unsubstantiated reasonable and then votes RebirthOfLeGenD just to pressure him. He shows that he has reason to believe that Toadesstern is scum but instead he opts to just pressure vote RebirthOfLeGenD in the most half assed way.

After this he doesn't stop the pressure on RebirthOfLeGenD. Instead he starts insisting that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum but this doesn't correlate with how he is pushing him. He doesn't write cases or ask people for anything. He actually stops even trying to appear to be actively contributing after he apparently figures out that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum and that town is wrong and is being lead astray.

He's also French.

Yeah.

But seriously, this guy is pretty scum. He's not trying to get noticed or step on anybody's toes, always picking easy targets while trying to stay out of any troubles at all, and so far he's only gotten by because people are giving him a lot of leash because he was bad in another game. What I'm seeing here isn't just bad, it's not giving a shit about town.

##Vote Tyrran



@Kurumi You suck.



Dirkzor seems to be doing a lot of the same stuff. Why don't you want to lynch him?

Scum together?
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:11 GMT
#1643
I don't think Dirkzor is doing the same stuff at all. Reading his filter and having played with him in Hammer Mini Mafia, I think his posting looks exactly the same and he has only been pushing town agendas this game. I have no reason to think that Dirkzor is scum.

What is your problem with lynching Tyrran?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#1644
On February 29 2012 02:11 prplhz wrote:
I don't think Dirkzor is doing the same stuff at all. Reading his filter and having played with him in Hammer Mini Mafia, I think his posting looks exactly the same and he has only been pushing town agendas this game. I have no reason to think that Dirkzor is scum.

What is your problem with lynching Tyrran?

What are town agendas are You talking about?
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 28 2012 17:19 GMT
#1645
On February 28 2012 23:32 Jitsu wrote:
There is so much anti-town shit going up in here.

Dirkzor, according to you, Dr.H has so nothing in the past eight hours.


Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 08:10 Dirkzor wrote:
On February 27 2012 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 27 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote:
On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?

he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs.
At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work.


I disagree: Jackal could very well have been a Town vig... Jackal is hard to read and he havent really been Mr. Helpful.

If a vig hit Jackal I think they might as well claim so


Agree. My point was basicly that I can't find a reason for scum to shoot jackal so I think it was a town hit.



Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 02:35 Dirkzor wrote:
Only private? I was sergeant in real life =/

Is that list in order of who lurks the most?


Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 06:10 Dirkzor wrote:
I'll do a short Q&A for you guys.

Q: Is DrH's filter long?
A: There is not a precise answer to that. That depends on game length, game type and what you define as long. But the purpose of this Q&A the answer would be: Yes. 6 pages and counting.

Q: Have DrH called anyone scum?
A: Yes. As a matter of fact he have.

Q: How many have he called scum?
A: Let me see... *counting counting* Lets say more then a handful.

Q: Have DrH made cases for any of these so called scum players?
A: Oh yes. He very much have. He have made 3 big ones at least. On RoL, Dirk and VE.

Q: Have DrH actively pushed for a lynch for any of these people.
A: No.

Q: Why not? If he think they are scum why not try to convince others so they'll hang?
A: No one knows. DrH works alone and in mysterious ways. It would be normal town play to do so.

Q: Is he scum himself then?
A: What a observant questioneer. He might.



Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 18:47 Dirkzor wrote:
Prplhz why do you want to remove focus from the players who are currently lynchtargets?

First you tried with Tyrran and no one supported you so now you want to lynch chaoser?



Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 19:04 Dirkzor wrote:
You're inconsistent. You say that we should be able to get a decent read. Then you say you can't see any of them as scum. Are they all town then?



Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 19:14 Dirkzor wrote:
While I was sleeping DrH have accomplished to add 2-3 more page to his filter without saying anything. He have called 6+ player scummy but made no cases or really pushed for their lynch. He called out toad for cluttering up the thread but continued to do so himself the same way he have done earlier.

##Vote DrH



I just copy and pasted the entire last page to you're filter. It was painful, but I did it anyway.

Save the last two posts (which are attacking a player who is actively contributing to the town) you have given us absolutely nothing.
Nothing.

All of the shit near the top is fluff. You are speculating (much like I was) but you were building on it. Trying to take off with it and run, and push it deeper into the ground. Looking back, I was lost and trying to contribute to the thread somehow, but you try to almost ENCOURAGE this kind of shit, and make it look like you are at least trying to contribute.

Then, when the speculation is over, you stop and disappear.

Then you post a fucking Q&A that leads you to the conclusion that you have a null read on DrH. But, the point of the entire thing is to discredit whatever DrH is saying.

wat

Then later on, you do the same thing, only more boldly. You actually vote for him. With a shoddy case at that.

Probably with the worst reasoning possible in my book. Because his filter is long?? You're case is actually based on the fact that his filter...is long. In his "Q&A" he says that he can't get a read on DrH. Then 4 votes later, posts that he thinks that DocH is scum and wants him dead.

I asked DrH is he thought that Toades and Dirkzor could be mafia together. I find it a bit humerous that as DrH is attacking Toad, Toad is sitting here defending himself and trying to look at other people...while Dirkzor comes in and tries to discredit and actually votes to lynch DrH.

Chainsaw Defense much?

Toades
Dirkzor


I don't know why you don't like me much. Well I have a hunch.

Your post is full of misreading, misunderstanding and misrepresentation that it hurts my eyes.

I've never said DrH was a null read to me. I never said I couldn't get a read on him. The whole point of my Q&A was to point out what I found scummy about DrH behavior so far. I did so without explicitly stating "I find him scum" "I want him dead". I'm sure if you did not understand that.
When have I said he was scummy beacuse is filter is long? I think he is scum because dispite his long filter he haven't really pushed any agenda. He just flows by with weak scumreads.
I don't care if toad dies. The fact is that I find it hard to find any town reads this game so everyone can go commit suicide and I'll be happy. Also toad is/was not in any danger of getting lynched (or wasn't) he had what... 1 maybe 2 votes?

If i wanted to defend him I would have pushed someone easier to get lynched... I'm not stupid.

Regarding RoL:

I could get behind lynching him. He is not here. He haven't done anything particularly pro town. He is playing like he did in purgatory: Feigning activity, getting mad when people don't agree and made excuses.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#1646
He's looking town and he's been active and consistent in his contributions and not flaking out at any point. I didn't see anything scummy he's done this game when I read his filter. It's pretty hard to point him pushing the lynch of a scum, but he's called plenty of people out and he's been willing to reconsider his opinions and his posting looks like he's actually trying to pour effort and thought into this game.

I don't see any reason to lynch Dirkzor.

I see good reason to lynch Tyrran.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 28 2012 17:24 GMT
#1647
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:23 Toadesstern wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:17 Toadesstern wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 28 2012 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I'm not going to get lynched today, and if scum tries it's going to be hilarious.

I have secrets so go ahead VE, try to lynch me. Really, I feel sorry for you since you have 0 idea what's coming.
[/QUOTE]

I must have missed something. How does that useless mason summary have any importance whatsoever?

What I'm really wondering is what exactly do you guys think is going to happen to RoL that is going to make things better? Do you guys even care what RoL might have to say on day 5 lylo after being absent the previous four days? How can we bring a player that ragequit to endgame?

I'm amazed how everyone can be against RoL going into today, yet when he posts for us to lynch him that everyone suddenly sees him in a better light. If there is one policy lynch that I don't mind pushing through, its a martyr.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 28 2012 17:25 GMT
#1648
On February 28 2012 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I'm not going to get lynched today, and if scum tries it's going to be hilarious.

I have secrets so go ahead VE, try to lynch me. Really, I feel sorry for you since you have 0 idea what's coming.


I must have missed something. How does that useless mason summary have any importance whatsoever?

What I'm really wondering is what exactly do you guys think is going to happen to RoL that is going to make things better? Do you guys even care what RoL might have to say on day 5 lylo after being absent the previous four days? How can we bring a player that ragequit to endgame?

I'm amazed how everyone can be against RoL going into today, yet when he posts for us to lynch him that everyone suddenly sees him in a better light. If there is one policy lynch that I don't mind pushing through, its a martyr.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
February 28 2012 17:25 GMT
#1649
Here's a scenario.

Kurumi asks me if I think RoL is scum.
I say "I don't know, he might be."

How does that at all translate to "Yes, I think he's scum, I want him dead." Why would a town player who has a scum read on someone not say "I think he's scum, I want him dead."

Oh, that's right. They wouldn't.

For example:

I think Dirkzor is scum. I would like him dead.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
February 28 2012 17:28 GMT
#1650
On February 29 2012 02:21 prplhz wrote:
He's looking town and he's been active and consistent in his contributions and not flaking out at any point. I didn't see anything scummy he's done this game when I read his filter. It's pretty hard to point him pushing the lynch of a scum, but he's called plenty of people out and he's been willing to reconsider his opinions and his posting looks like he's actually trying to pour effort and thought into this game.

I don't see any reason to lynch Dirkzor.

I see good reason to lynch Tyrran.


What?

He's active and consistent...with a total of three pages of filter to sift through. I understand that town discussion has stalled, but active? There were points where I forgot he was in this game.

Also, he's called plenty of people out? I just skimmed through it again, and saw him call out Blazinghand and DrH, and very soft-aggression to chaoser.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:41 GMT
#1651
On February 29 2012 02:28 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 02:21 prplhz wrote:
He's looking town and he's been active and consistent in his contributions and not flaking out at any point. I didn't see anything scummy he's done this game when I read his filter. It's pretty hard to point him pushing the lynch of a scum, but he's called plenty of people out and he's been willing to reconsider his opinions and his posting looks like he's actually trying to pour effort and thought into this game.

I don't see any reason to lynch Dirkzor.

I see good reason to lynch Tyrran.


What?

He's active and consistent...with a total of three pages of filter to sift through. I understand that town discussion has stalled, but active? There were points where I forgot he was in this game.

Also, he's called plenty of people out? I just skimmed through it again, and saw him call out Blazinghand and DrH, and very soft-aggression to chaoser.

So what? He's done more than a bunch of other players, Tyrran included.

Tyrran has 1 page of filter. He has called 0 people out and only softpushed RebirthOfLeGenD even though it he appears to be very confident that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum. But that's not really important, he could just be inactive because it's hard to be French or something. Maybe his dog died (sorry if he/she did!). What's important is how he seems fine just skirting by not getting noticed. Most of what he's talking about is just paraphrasing what other people said so he's not trying to inject anything into this game. When he finally has an opinion he doesn't give a shit about pushing it.

I don't really see "forgetting the game" as a scum move. Scum, especially newer players, are usually more careful before saying stuff like that because it's quite clear that other people will want to lynch them for it.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#1652
This game.

I'm not sure what exactly is happening with the lynch today, but in light of wbg's claim I'm inclined to look into other targets. If it's true that he was masoned with Syllo and Syllo gave him a healing potion, I'm suddenly not as sure as I was of WBG as scum. Bugs, did you take a hit or anything last night? If you're able to actually prove what you're claiming here, you're as good as confirmed.

BC, I'll respond to your post soon. I have to say though, calling me out for lack of contribution is...guy it's fucking offensive coming from you this game. Yes, I disappeared for 2 days. Yes, I got excited after my case on WBG and ignored the other people I said I'd look into. When these things become indicative of me pushing an agenda, you go ahead and push me for lynch - until then, I suggest you get in here and look for actual scum.

Now, because there's only 5 hours left until lynch, I'm thinking we should consolidate targets, and I can get down on a Tyrran lynch or a RoL lynch or a BC lynch. These are the only lynches I can in good conscience vote on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#1653
@VisceraEyes What the fuck he didn't even claim a role. He just said that somebody masoned him with syllogism and from his paraphrasing I'm inclined to believe that. But what exactly does any of this say about his alignment?

Which of the three candidates would you prefer?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 28 2012 18:04 GMT
#1654
It says that confTown syllo trusted him...if the paraphrasing can be trusted. And by his own admission, syllo's town reads are more reliable than his scum reads.

Of the three, I'm the most comfortable with a RoL or Tyrran lynch - their activity levels are similar, and while RoL would be more dangerous as scum, he's not saying shit and frankly I don't find that threatening at all. BC is at least putting some effort into the game (even if that's to get one of us lynched -.-)

So, Tyrran is my preference.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 18:14 GMT
#1655
Meh.

Stop thinking about how scary players potentially could be if they were scum. You lynch into scummy people not into people you are afraid of. Fear of for scummy bastards, right?

Right?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 28 2012 18:16 GMT
#1656
Lynch RoL. We're trying to lynch the guy for 3 straight up days. Everyone says RoL is a good lynch and that they'd be willing to lynch him yet he survived until now and even now people are talking about something else..
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 28 2012 18:16 GMT
#1657
Gonna re-read and try not to get mad about having to talk with Blazinghand, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern and Kurumi when i could be commiting more exciting acts of self harm.

VisceraEyes still looks like scum.
##Vote VisceraEyes
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 18:21 GMT
#1658
Dirkzor has put effort into what? a shitty case on me where he lied a bunch of times and screaming to get BH lynched? I like that he gets to chainsaw twice and no one notices. If no one is going to go along with the obvious scum Toades, we should lynch Dirkzor.

Toadesstern's primary issue in this game is that he is implicitly guilty. He is scared to vote for BH on Day 2 because he thinks he's gonna get lynched for doing it no matter what BH flips even though no one was even paying attention to him at the time. Mafia worry about their votes. Mafia worry about how town sees them. Town worries about who is mafia.

@Prplhz

VE never said WBG claimed a role. You keep ignoring active posting targets and going after lurkers, ones who probably won't respond to you. Your defense of Dirkzor is wishy washy and wrong. Dirkzor 100% misrepresented me then backpedaled and made it seem like he never said I never made cases and pushed people even though that's exactly what he did word for word. He said he never said it was scummy that I have a lot of posts then why was that part of his reason for voting for me? He's full of shit and basically admitted he has a hard time reading me earlier. I haven't pushed any agenda? What the fuck does that mean? Did I not get a lot of people to vote BC on Day 1? Did I not go after RoL the hardest? Am I not trying to get toadesstern lynched now? Stupid. Can't believe you'd think anything Dirkzor is doing is a pro-town agenda. Dirkzor is definitely the scum trying hardest to appear pro-town though as kitaman noticed d1
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 18:22 GMT
#1659
On February 29 2012 03:16 Toadesstern wrote:
Lynch RoL. We're trying to lynch the guy for 3 straight up days. Everyone says RoL is a good lynch and that they'd be willing to lynch him yet he survived until now and even now people are talking about something else..

It's a bad lynch
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 18:23 GMT
#1660
RoL is a bad day 3 lynch because:

1. Not a single person has defended him
2. He isn't posting, the lynch will happen with no pressure and we basically wasted a days discussion
3. I'm the only person who has pointed out what is scummy about his actions anyway and not just complained that he's inactive or a dick

Yes we should lynch RoL, but not today
RIP Aaliyah
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